pooh: I wasn't saying it was a big thing, but he asked for something specific that you can do in Linux that you can't do in Windows. Viewing the source is one of them.
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pooh: I wasn't saying it was a big thing, but he asked for something specific that you can do in Linux that you can't do in Windows. Viewing the source is one of them.
*GASP* Does this mean that Piglets are flying now? :D This is a nice change. Perhaps someone could take the time to summarize the "results" as a post and then suggest it to Pedro as an AO Spotlight. :)Quote:
A lot of linux vs. windows myths have been destroyed and people are viewing them both in a fair and honest light.
Results were simple really "An OS is as secure, flexible, usable, and stable as the admin. The more an admin knows about his OS, the more it can do"
That's a rather good challenge, hehe... I was a hardcore, diehard break-it-down-proper MS 98 SE fan because at the time, when XP first came out, it was THE gaming platform. If any of you really know me, you'll know I'm all about computers for one single thing: video games!!!!!! (WOOOOOT!)Quote:
Originally posted here by gore
You supply the hardware, and you're one.
I'm NOT letting one of my boxes, which could use more cooling, go for 6 months. But you get me like a Pentium, and some good cooling, and I'll take your challenge.
Most uptime on 98 I've seen is about a month. It was shut down so I could install a NIC.
Hell, You never said what I could and couldn't do, so by what you said, I'll reboot it to MS-DOs mode and let it go for a year. Or run just one application. A friend of mine owns a business, he uses Windows 98 machines to run one application for security cams in stores, and those boxes are on all the time, don't get shut down, and do get a decent sized load considering they are recording video 24/7.
That being said, you simply COULD NOT abuse Win98SE the way I did in gaming and have it last more than a few days. The only way to make it last longer would be to get 3rd party apps for defrag, memory management, and various other programs as well as have more than 512 megs of memory, and a swap space of at least 2gb (trust me, you WILL use it at some point with Win9x, moreso with Win95 than 98 or 98SE). And that's ridiculous. With 512mb of memory, I should never have to touch swap at all. I could put a stock install of linux anything next to that box with 96mb of ram and it would never hit swap, this with applications like Apache, PostgreSQL, etc...
XP is a different story though and with SP2 out, we'll see how it goes. I noticed that the SP2 is on http://www.fileplanet.com, hah! Nice advertising! Would like to see how many multiplayer games break with the new ICF, hehe...
Disclaimer: this was a post about my personal experiences with Win9x uptimes and the like, nothing else.
on and on it goes...when will it stop nobody knows.
Can we set up a whole new website "whichOSisbest.com" then it can be thrashed out there countless times.
If you want to argue which is the most secure system then I suggest either Mainframe using RACF/ACF2/topsecret, or any B Level OS - Trusted Solaris, Pitbull etc.... oh, and throw in a box using FIPS 140-1 level 4 coprocessors etc..
Isn't this the truth...good to see you contributed another post, ron1n! Hehe!
Although my post wasn't in regards to security (above yours)...just uptime. Windows doesn't the uptime compared to just about any other OS out there.
That wasn't the point of this thread. The point was to put something on the front page other than the suual tech support bullshit I see every day, and actually have a discussion. I think I can assume I've at least done that. And made Pooh happy with a thread on AO. And consideing how many posts are in this thread...Heh, I haven't seen this many replies to a security related thread in quite a while.Quote:
Originally posted here by R0n1n
on and on it goes...when will it stop nobody knows.
Can we set up a whole new website "whichOSisbest.com" then it can be thrashed out there countless times.
If you want to argue which is the most secure system then I suggest either Mainframe using RACF/ACF2/topsecret, or any B Level OS - Trusted Solaris, Pitbull etc.... oh, and throw in a box using FIPS 140-1 level 4 coprocessors etc..
Which OS is better doesn't matter, I got people to take part, and reply in, a thread about something other than someone's computer won't load AOL anymore.
KSOS running a collection of various project software from a NeXTStep inspired GUI to multi level secure aware NFS, HTTP, FTP, and SMTP servers all on PDP 11/70 emulation on a 21364 system. With 3 inch viewable Game Boy monitor! :Ha Ha: :cool: :echo:Quote:
Originally posted here by R0n1n
on and on it goes...when will it stop nobody knows.
Can we set up a whole new website "whichOSisbest.com" then it can be thrashed out there countless times.
If you want to argue which is the most secure system then I suggest either Mainframe using RACF/ACF2/topsecret, or any B Level OS - Trusted Solaris, Pitbull etc.... oh, and throw in a box using FIPS 140-1 level 4 coprocessors etc..
yea it is lazy and i do pratice with one machine....but i just dont worrie about my network...ive got a belkin router so that takes care of most of the sk's...and all i do is download music, work on linux and security *learning*, get help from here, and chat.....who would honestly care about my small nework....if i ever find trojans i get rid of em.....besides i chalange my friends to hack my boxes all the time....they cant get past my router so i dont worrie about it
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Originally posted here by gore
Run in less than 128 MBs of RAM ? Use a 386 ? Not have to use a GUI ? Have a development environment without having to pay ?
LOL OK I'm done.
hehe.. I guess I should have been much more specific and stated that I wanted to know what you can do in linux that you can't do in windows from a security standpoint.. Although.. I can do just about anything on a windows machine with a CLI.. Just install RCMD and the resource kit, and there are few things that you can't do.. Unfortunately most 3rd party apps have very liitle CLI support... Also, since I am a student and my university subscribes to the MSDN Academic Alliance ELMS program I get almost all MS programs for free as long as I'm not using them for commercial purposes.. So I have WinXP, Office2k3, Project2k3, Server2k3, etc... all for free..
Not really.. One of the key things to remember about security is that the level of security needed is dependent upon the needs of the system. If you have nothing on a system that is of value to you, and you can deal with a break in every now and then, and you have some level of protection in place to prevent yourself from becoming a launching pad for other attacks then why does your system have to be the most secure system around? I'm running a pretty much vanilla install of Win2k with all the latest patches and up to date antivirus, along with a nat router.. I login and do everything as administrator.. I've never had any problems and I don't see myself having problems.. However, if I were to websurf with IE instead of Mozilla I definitely would not login as administrator all of the time... There just really isn't need for me to tweak the security of this system as it is secure enough.. Even if somebody were to compromise my router, they wouldn't get anything as I don't store any important information on my computer.. atleast not in an unencrypted format..Quote:
Isn't that plain dumb ? caring about security and giving advice to other how to secure their home machines etc, but not to have any securiity yourself ? That's just dumb !