Canadian Election (Split from blasphemous(Part1))

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Are we doing both? Could we afford to do both?? If we can afford to do both.. then by all means.. we should... but when there are problems here... Health Care, Education, Homeless problem... etc... if we can't fully fix all those.. then no.. we shouldn't be doing both... fixing one problem in it's entirety is better than two half-assed fixes...

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Even if all the resources were pulled in to fix all the problems that you have brought up we still wouldn't be able to fix them .... Really you should know that it takes more than money to fix a problem .... But until people decide open their eyes nothing will change ... Everything will remain the same ... Many will still live in their fantasy bubble where nothing matters except themselves ....

You know what I find really weird is that the only time that we really seem to come together is when were fighting .....
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Are we doing both? Could we afford to do both?? If we can afford to do both.. then by all means.. we should... but when there are problems here... Health Care, Education, Homeless problem... etc... if we can't fully fix all those.. then no.. we shouldn't be doing both... fixing one problem in it's entirety is better than two half-assed fixes...

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Even if all the resources were pulled in to fix all the problems that you have brought up we still wouldn't be able to fix them .... Really you should know that it takes more than money to fix a problem .... But until people decide open their eyes nothing will change ... Everything will remain the same ... Many will still live in their fantasy bubble where nothing matters except themselves ....

You know what I find really weird is that the only time that we really seem to come together is when were fighting .....
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Originally posted here by Agent_Steal
Even if all the resources were pulled in to fix all the problems that you have brought up we still wouldn't be able to fix them .... Really you should know that it takes more than money to fix a problem .... But until people decide open their eyes nothing will change ... Everything will remain the same ... Many will still live in their fantasy bubble where nothing matters except themselves ....

You know what I find really weird is that the only time that we really seem to come together is when were fighting .....
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It does take more than money... so put the military to work building shelters for the homeless... if we're going to have them make use of them.. don't let them just sit around and take money from us.... We'll always have people who think nothing matters but themselves... but that shouldn't stop the rest of us from making a difference... and going overseas to kill a bunch of people isn't the difference I'm talking about...

Fighting always brings people together... bar fight, street fight, lovers quarrel (sp?)... That's why make up sex is so good...

Peace,
HT

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Originally posted here by Agent_Steal
Even if all the resources were pulled in to fix all the problems that you have brought up we still wouldn't be able to fix them .... Really you should know that it takes more than money to fix a problem .... But until people decide open their eyes nothing will change ... Everything will remain the same ... Many will still live in their fantasy bubble where nothing matters except themselves ....

You know what I find really weird is that the only time that we really seem to come together is when were fighting .....
. :confused:

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It does take more than money... so put the military to work building shelters for the homeless... if we're going to have them make use of them.. don't let them just sit around and take money from us.... We'll always have people who think nothing matters but themselves... but that shouldn't stop the rest of us from making a difference... and going overseas to kill a bunch of people isn't the difference I'm talking about...

Fighting always brings people together... bar fight, street fight, lovers quarrel (sp?)... That's why make up sex is so good...

Peace,
HT

Here HT, seeing as how you have so much time to "Kill" and you think it was all wine and roses serving in the Military

http://www.parl.gc.ca/InfoComDoc/36/...09-chap1-e.htm


As for insults....you started the minute you opened up about the rank and file in the Military, I would have no gripe with you and possibly would agree on some points if you left your inane comments to just the Military Brass (Future politicians) and the politicians and not the rank and file, most of the problems in Canada as I see it, are due to geographics, I am sure you could really give a rats ass about people living on the East Coast or actually anywhere outside the borders of Ontario....be honest, as long as you in cozy Ontario are safe and sound in your'e little universe, who cares right.

The fact that Victoria and Halifax are home to the only Naval bases in Canada, means we have an awareness of how we have been let down by the rest of Canada, there is no Canada as a whole, because everything is regionalised, NIMBY....

As for helping others in Foreign Aid or Domestic, the Canadain Military has been there, and I am sure if you were to ask those Quebecer's who suffered through that Ice Storm if they are thankful, the answer would be yes, we have an excellant record of helping others in times of trouble, we should be proud of the Men and Women who chose to serve, if you want to be a pacifist, then fine be one, "I" respect your right to be one, however if you want to spout poison, then do it against the politicians who have squandered the millions of "My " money as well as yours.

Come to Halifax and spend some time with some sailors, we aren't trained in hand to hand,heck we have better ways of dealing with malcontents.(overboard) :cool:

Here HT, seeing as how you have so much time to "Kill" and you think it was all wine and roses serving in the Military

http://www.parl.gc.ca/InfoComDoc/36/...09-chap1-e.htm


As for insults....you started the minute you opened up about the rank and file in the Military, I would have no gripe with you and possibly would agree on some points if you left your inane comments to just the Military Brass (Future politicians) and the politicians and not the rank and file, most of the problems in Canada as I see it, are due to geographics, I am sure you could really give a rats ass about people living on the East Coast or actually anywhere outside the borders of Ontario....be honest, as long as you in cozy Ontario are safe and sound in your'e little universe, who cares right.

The fact that Victoria and Halifax are home to the only Naval bases in Canada, means we have an awareness of how we have been let down by the rest of Canada, there is no Canada as a whole, because everything is regionalised, NIMBY....

As for helping others in Foreign Aid or Domestic, the Canadain Military has been there, and I am sure if you were to ask those Quebecer's who suffered through that Ice Storm if they are thankful, the answer would be yes, we have an excellant record of helping others in times of trouble, we should be proud of the Men and Women who chose to serve, if you want to be a pacifist, then fine be one, "I" respect your right to be one, however if you want to spout poison, then do it against the politicians who have squandered the millions of "My " money as well as yours.

Come to Halifax and spend some time with some sailors, we aren't trained in hand to hand,heck we have better ways of dealing with malcontents.(overboard) :cool:

Hey Hey,

I'm afraid that article only makes me think less of soldiers...

I went on beyond that page (which definately makes it seem like soldiers are getting the short end of the stick)... but then i read some of the pay stuff... things like this stuck out

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What then is fair compensation for assuming the strictures of unlimited liability? Insofar as military service is considered a "calling," part of the contribution made by members is in the form of selfless service - service for which remuneration is not expected. However, there must be limits. When Forces personnel were deployed to help with the "ice storm" they worked long hours and received $12.77 (taxable) in additional Field Operations Allowances; their entire additional daily entitlement for 12 to 18 hour days. Their civilian counterparts and the RCMP, on the other hand, were paid overtime for the extra hours worked. Military personnel were billeted in gymnasiums while civilian workers stayed in hotels.

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The military is a way of life... you give your life if you join... I've always heard that... I don't think they should have even received the extra 12 bucks... If you're salaried you don't need to get OT at all... I don't get OT when I work 60 and 70 hour weeks... Lots of other people don't either... You do what is needed of you.... Who cares if their civilian counterparts got extra... They could refuse the OT.. and walk away (some with the RCMP)... their companies decided that they were worth paying to have there... Civilian Workers again.. their companies put them up in Hotels... there's nothing wrong with being billeted in a gym... it does the trick... Again the military is supposed to be a way of life.... This whole paper sounds like a fight for more funding for the military and the whining of soldiers.. Complaining about public opinion (public opinion is that way for a reason).. complaining about pay... it's awful...

An ex of mine married a friend of mine's ex so I still keep in touch with them.... He's in the military... I can talk to her basically whenever because she doesn't work... they've got a kid or two... and a nice little house.. she stays home all day and he works and they're getting by just fine.. they can even afford semi annual trips back home... which I can't afford for myself and I'm in the same province.. .they're 3 provinces away.. So I'd say the pay is adequate...

I care about some parts of Canada.... Not to much about Quebec... that whole seperatist thing ruined it for me... I think they should be cast away like they want... "We will leave your country and be independant, but we'll use yoru currency and you'll protect us and yada yada yada"... that was BS.. no one that's sane can respect the province after that.. I could also care less about Nunavut... that was a stupid thing... We wronged your ancestors.. have a bunch of land... it's BS... The rest of Canada... I care about it...

I agree that poison should be spouted at politicians.. but it should also go towards the military.. I see numbers in there like 9 Billion... that's a ridiculous sum of money in my opinion... I see no need to lower military funding.... but I think it's awful to consider raising it... the politicians raising military funding is my idea of them squandering away taxpayers money...

As for dealing with the sailors... not a problem :D... I grew up working with my dad doing sheet metal... After that I did construction... Plus in the snoopy nintendo game, I always knock the other player overboard :D..

Peace,
HT

Hey Hey,

I'm afraid that article only makes me think less of soldiers...

I went on beyond that page (which definately makes it seem like soldiers are getting the short end of the stick)... but then i read some of the pay stuff... things like this stuck out

Quote:

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What then is fair compensation for assuming the strictures of unlimited liability? Insofar as military service is considered a "calling," part of the contribution made by members is in the form of selfless service - service for which remuneration is not expected. However, there must be limits. When Forces personnel were deployed to help with the "ice storm" they worked long hours and received $12.77 (taxable) in additional Field Operations Allowances; their entire additional daily entitlement for 12 to 18 hour days. Their civilian counterparts and the RCMP, on the other hand, were paid overtime for the extra hours worked. Military personnel were billeted in gymnasiums while civilian workers stayed in hotels.

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The military is a way of life... you give your life if you join... I've always heard that... I don't think they should have even received the extra 12 bucks... If you're salaried you don't need to get OT at all... I don't get OT when I work 60 and 70 hour weeks... Lots of other people don't either... You do what is needed of you.... Who cares if their civilian counterparts got extra... They could refuse the OT.. and walk away (some with the RCMP)... their companies decided that they were worth paying to have there... Civilian Workers again.. their companies put them up in Hotels... there's nothing wrong with being billeted in a gym... it does the trick... Again the military is supposed to be a way of life.... This whole paper sounds like a fight for more funding for the military and the whining of soldiers.. Complaining about public opinion (public opinion is that way for a reason).. complaining about pay... it's awful...

An ex of mine married a friend of mine's ex so I still keep in touch with them.... He's in the military... I can talk to her basically whenever because she doesn't work... they've got a kid or two... and a nice little house.. she stays home all day and he works and they're getting by just fine.. they can even afford semi annual trips back home... which I can't afford for myself and I'm in the same province.. .they're 3 provinces away.. So I'd say the pay is adequate...

I care about some parts of Canada.... Not to much about Quebec... that whole seperatist thing ruined it for me... I think they should be cast away like they want... "We will leave your country and be independant, but we'll use yoru currency and you'll protect us and yada yada yada"... that was BS.. no one that's sane can respect the province after that.. I could also care less about Nunavut... that was a stupid thing... We wronged your ancestors.. have a bunch of land... it's BS... The rest of Canada... I care about it...

I agree that poison should be spouted at politicians.. but it should also go towards the military.. I see numbers in there like 9 Billion... that's a ridiculous sum of money in my opinion... I see no need to lower military funding.... but I think it's awful to consider raising it... the politicians raising military funding is my idea of them squandering away taxpayers money...

As for dealing with the sailors... not a problem :D... I grew up working with my dad doing sheet metal... After that I did construction... Plus in the snoopy nintendo game, I always knock the other player overboard :D..

Peace,
HT

Hmmmm,

I won't comment on the elections, as I obviously know nothing about the personalities involved.

As for the military side of things, I would comment that there is obviously some sort of entry level threshold?

For example, the UK has thermonuclear submarines, a relatively large navy and aircraft carriers. These are rather expensive, and would explain why our defence expenditure per capita is much higher than Canada's.

As for troop deployment in bad weather/disaster situations. This makes sense to me, a lot of times our guys do that sort of thing, because it gives them an opportunity to practice with their equipment. And we are paying them for that anyways so it makes sense if they do something useful (even the 18 hole golf course.............serious!!!! :D )

What intrigued me was:

US: 12%...winner
Canada: 15.9%
UK: 17%

How is "poverty" defined. Over here I have not seen many sleeping rough who did not chose to do so. We have a lot of social welfare benefits, free healthcare, supplementary income benefits, free housing and so on................I suspect that this is not taken into account? OK we have winos and druggies, but that is their chosen lifestyle?

Another thing is your local cost of living. For example I can live here in the boondocks for about 60% of what it would cost me to live in London.


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Hmmmm,

I won't comment on the elections, as I obviously know nothing about the personalities involved.

As for the military side of things, I would comment that there is obviously some sort of entry level threshold?

For example, the UK has thermonuclear submarines, a relatively large navy and aircraft carriers. These are rather expensive, and would explain why our defence expenditure per capita is much higher than Canada's.

As for troop deployment in bad weather/disaster situations. This makes sense to me, a lot of times our guys do that sort of thing, because it gives them an opportunity to practice with their equipment. And we are paying them for that anyways so it makes sense if they do something useful (even the 18 hole golf course.............serious!!!! :D )

What intrigued me was:

US: 12%...winner
Canada: 15.9%
UK: 17%

How is "poverty" defined. Over here I have not seen many sleeping rough who did not chose to do so. We have a lot of social welfare benefits, free healthcare, supplementary income benefits, free housing and so on................I suspect that this is not taken into account? OK we have winos and druggies, but that is their chosen lifestyle?

Another thing is your local cost of living. For example I can live here in the boondocks for about 60% of what it would cost me to live in London.


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