Re: Is Windows more secure than BSD/Gnu/Linux/UNIX?
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Now, I want a good clean discussion. Flames should be intelligent smart ass comments. Not the crap excuses for flames I've seen lately.
3. I really don't care if you're an MCSE who trained yourself to believe the crap you got spoon fed.
If you don't believe me, take a regular copy of Windows XP, NOT RESTORE DISKS, but just the one CD that Windows XP comes with, and reboot your machine with it, format, and install it.
Windows has :
The Kernel
The User Interface
Windows update
A command prompt
Two text editors
Outlook virus spreader express
Windows Messenger
Windows Media Player
Internet Explorer
Windows Explorer
Linux has :
A LOT
About 7,000 programs. Most of which are optional software, but to be fair, I will strip Linux down to nothing but software that Windows comes with:
Since Windows has the software I listed by default, putting the same type into Linux should be fair, so for one thing :
Strip away everything from Linux except the equivalents of what Windows has:
Kernel
User Interface (Shell) (Which I am NOT listing X, because it's a separate program, unlike Windows, which MAKES you use a mouse, so deal with it)
The update is not the same on every distribution, so I'm not listing one.
Bash shell
Two text editors :
Vi
Emacs
Notepad and Word pad could'nt touch either of these, but again, I'm being fair.
Mutt E-Mail client, which can't spread viruses, worms, or load HTML E-mails, which risks your computer.
Linux also does'nt have an annoying messenger service built in and turned on by default, so I won't list one here. Although I guess you could use "talk" or the mail program.
Xine
Links
Midnight Commander
Having not read any previous remarks to this thread( I am feeling a bit lazy tonight )
Hrm welp, let's see here. Microsoft has a dysfunctionall firewall, an overly friendly address book, a penchant for spreading worms, and a history of crappy protocol implementation. But it has antivirus too, and 1 in 3 fails to detect new viruses! That being said, SP 2 is a vast improvement. and SFU has some redeeming qualities.(it's free). In terms of the free software you were talking about...a lot of it runs on windows.
hrm I am an MCSE you know, and the food on the spoon tasted like manure.
Widows, more secure than linux or BSD? that just cracks me up. It's amazing what companies will say when they are paid enough.
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To the whining seniors who bitch about how good AO USED to be, well, here's another chance to have a good discussion, so get off your ass and discuss. [/B]
*lifts self off of ass and gets on soapbox.
*FART*
Re: Re: Is Windows more secure than BSD/Gnu/Linux/UNIX?
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Originally posted here by hogfly
Having not read any previous remarks to this thread( I am feeling a bit lazy tonight )
Hrm welp, let's see here. Microsoft has a dysfunctionall firewall, an overly friendly address book, a penchant for spreading worms, and a history of crappy protocol implementation. But it has antivirus too, and 1 in 3 fails to detect new viruses! That being said, SP 2 is a vast improvement. and SFU has some redeeming qualities.(it's free). In terms of the free software you were talking about...a lot of it runs on windows.
Access to the outlook address book was restricted way back in Outlook2k SP2. But even then, that is an office problem, not a windows issue. We are not talking about application vulnerabilities here... Going a bit more into that, MS put additional macro protection and AV protection into Outlook in Outlook2002(over two years old...) If you want to have a productive discussion talking about how things were two years ago is pointless as security is an ever evolving beast that changes weekly.
What antivirus does windows have built in??? I've never seen it, and I can point you to plenty of articles that state why MS has not implemented it yet... 1 in 3 viruses get through without being detected?? Please, state a source. I've been running various flavors of AV for years and I have never had an infection.. And what's dysfunctional about the firewall? It works just as well as any other personnal software based firewall out there.. And vx'ers spread worms.. not an OS..
I think that the main thing that these types of threads can do is dispell the baseless myths that proponents of one OS or the other try to spread...