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My gawd people! Who the hell thought that they could mess with America?! Now we are going to exact our revenge upon the poor people of Afghanistan. A huge military superpower bombing the hell out of a second rate country. That should peak the interests of other superpowers. Look who the bully is now. A little kid(Afghanistan) hits an adult(America) and the adult smacks up the child. Social services(NATO) should have a ball with this.
I don't think they are aiming missles at kids.
Just because they aren't a world superpower doesn't mean they don't know how to fight. Do you think they will just let us stroll right in and take him (you know who) back to the US or where ever for stand trial? I've seen a few "nuke Afgania" e-mails (how stupid) go around my e-mail box. Yeah, it's funny, everyone laughs, but look at Vietnam. They were using stonge age weapons and traps, very deadly to many of our soldiers.
If we scare them enough, maybe they will hand him over and everyone goes on their way. I'm sure many people in both countries are hoping for this, no one wants to lose a loved one or friend to war, both sides.
We aren't going to bomb them. We are going to build glow in the dark parking lots. They need a foreman...could you send your resume tripstone? You would be working in humanitarian aid...should be rewarding for you.
Afghanistans are tuff. They have not lost a fight/war in two centuries. They fought off the Russians succesfully (with our help).
This is a whole new era of warfare. A country just can't go in and bomb everything to hell and back. This is the new age, we will determine what the targets are and take action against them. Pin point effeciency is the name of the game now.
-Manbik
The Afghanistani people probably had nothing to do with it. Bombing Afghanistan would just 'turn the rubble of earlier bombs', and wouldn't do anything except kill the civilians, who are NOT part of it any more than US civilians are responsible for The Unabomber, or McVeigh.
Please read what I already wrote on this pretty dated kind of response here. I don't want to bother repeating everything. It's the second-to-last (19th) post on the first page.
I do not believe in killing one because they killed another but I do believe sometimes it takes war to create peace.
With that said, I am starting to think the US will not attack as strong as Americans would like to. I think we will get a trophy sacrafice to pay the debt.
I hope my comments don't sound anti-American, believe my when I say my blood runs Red, White, and Blue.
:D i say yall make a list of all the other countries to bomb and y don't we bomb some ppl in are country i don't like any of those Canadians either........ there like us but the say ay and thats just wrong:mad:
bomb ohio show we are serious yes we kill are ppl proves we're nuts:eek:
the moon blocks my view of uranus:booty:
in all seriousness my bombing is good too but um um um
and still i walk and point at u and laugh whats the point *throw hands in air walks away*
well even though they did that crazy **** to us , i think the pres did the right thing and whack em in the nads by cutting off there money supply (somewhat im sure) but i also think that if the people who are really good at this cpu **** then they should reak havoc on there end of the deal if they can get info out of a bank then y did't they take care of it ? i don't know this whole thing with bin laden and the talaband is all crap we all just need to sit down a smoke a joint and think of what all this **** is going to do to our kids future ohh well life suck and we have to deal with it every day :rolleyes:
Right on.
I think Dark1 hit the nail right on the head. If the "Evil Hackers" in the US could unlease some serios HELL on those bastards. That sounds alot better than making my life hell, as a Net Admin, with those F--king viruses (virii, for those reading othes threads).
That's a great idea! Lets unleash ignorant script-kiddies in search of federally-tacitly-allowed vandalism and thrill seeking, and watch lots of sites from all walks of life from ALL Islamic countries, (and a few that aren't Islamic, because the script-kiddies failed geography) and have them mess it up!
Among the victims that were defaced or deleted:
A site for a hospital in Egypt:
Russian news site
Turkish ISP's site
Site for terrorism-relief-fund (www.hasthewordTerroristinit.com)
... Bad idea.
You make a valid point. As much as I would like to agree with you, Terr, I can't help but think that it would be in our best interests for these script-kiddies to refocus there efforts and help America and it's allies to eliminate a form of communication for terrorist. There are alot of people in this world that know what they are doing and they prove it daily and keep Anti-virus companies in business. All I am trying to say is the power could be put in our favor instead of against us.
Mabey we should stop the CIA from training people in other countries?
Guess who trained Sadam? and gave him money?
Guess who trained Binnie?
afgan is not going to be easy,
there is going lots of problems, and I dont think its going to be like the gulfwar.
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BY THE WAY scagnut ITS EH! NOT AY.
LOL
LB
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w/e don't matter i was just wanting gobal chaos
ohio has had it to good for to long......
what about mexico and texas they make texaco and thats scary if we kill them who will give us gas?
the hay day u would have if i didn't fix this **** geezus crisp my lord and slayer
Hmm... Power of Stupidity vs Power of Reason... Power of Stupidity vs Power of Reason...Quote:
Originally posted by rnapro
All I am trying to say is the power could be put in our favor instead of against us.
I'm just afraid the Stupidity will win out. If the US govt does NOT prosecute script-kiddies for going after any sites ('guilty' sites or not), I'm afraid that will send the wrong message, specifically: "It's okay so long as you hurt people who aren't in your country.", which, of course, it isn't, and then you'll get people jumping on the bandwagon, because they'll feel like they can't get in trouble.
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unixphoenix wrote on 10-03-2001 10:34 PM:
bomb ohio? are you ****ed in the head?
i don't like kentucky either..........road kill laws.......keep for waste management:rolleyes:
The afghans are an extremely valid fighting army, not to be taken lightly.
As for attacking their sites, only adds to demise of the internet.
I personally hope this whole ordeal does not escalate into war because I believe it would be a war that neither side would win. How can a country who has rules for war (US), fight a country with individuals who have no rules?
I believe Lt. Hunter in Crimson Tide said it best when he said:
No one wins a war…Bombing Afghanistan to have Bin Laden Handed over will not change the ideas of the extremists, it will only prove that we can drop a lot bombs. And as for the Script Kiddie idea, do you really think that messing up foreign websites is going to change the minds of a country who outlaws the Internet, children’s toys, and requires women to wear veils that cover their faces? NO, it won’t!Quote:
"The purpose of war is to serve a political end, but the true nature of war is to serve itself"
Terr,
Point well taken.
I guess I would just like to see the knowledge some people have put to good use instead of inflict terror on the rest of us just for fun.
Tripstone, why the hell do you start threads like this? I thought this site was all about computers/security not political opinions..........oh well:o
This is "General Chit-Chat" I think I have every right to start threads that deal with subjects other than security and the likes. Considering that there are numerous other forums here that deal with that stuff. Now, if ya will, please don't dis me no mo'. And remember this is just General Chit Chat...if there are a lot of people that agree with Confirmed...then I will quit posting this "nonsense" as you will...thank you verrrrry much!
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Hmm.Quote:
"That's a great idea! Lets unleash ignorant script-kiddies..." -Terr
Can you say YIHAT !?
I still wonder about this group. :confused:
Once again... Me!,
Linked fixed! Sorry!
YIHAT
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Still me,
i just wondering why are we talking about this on a website that's devoted to knowledge about computers??
"General Chit Chat" Wanna see computer only threads? Go to the other forums...I have rights!
As a fromer SPECOPS and Gulf War Vet,
I can not sit back and listen to these liberal minded folks who do not seem to undertsand this reality.
How is it that there are so many people "AMERICANS" who condemn these actions against a TERRORIST State. How many of YOUR loved ones need to die before your liberal minds will see reality.
I can think of no better CAUSE than to rid this world of Terrorism and any who support it! This would not only be good for AMERICANS, but also for the whole world!!!
Unfortunately this action will require American lives and American blood...But I still say it is a JUST CAUSE and worth that price! I have put my life on the line many times for my country and would do it again if asked!!
Would You?
How many of you liberal minded people out there, realize that it is the AMERICAN soldiers who ensure your freedom of speech? How many of you who are oppositionally against the actions of AMERICA are strong enough in your convictions? Well, let's see you demonstrate your resolve in the city of Kabul. http://www.badassbuddy.com/images/bu...-meetladen.gif
trpistone, i'm sorry if i've made you mad or offended you. i didn't mean to. i've just been overwhelmed with it. once again, i'm sorry.
-havanger
-->MITYMOUSE?!?
--> I am no "liberal", at least as the current definition holds. I am a "liberal" in the great tradition of openminded free-thinkers. I do not think that 'nothing' should be done in response to the attack. Sure, we should retaliate in SOME FORM. But this retaliation can lead to further reprisals in the USA in a never-ending cycle. The "reality" is this: If you don't want the terrorism to happen again, you must address what caused it. The current round of bombing will SURELY create YET ANOTHER generation of America-haters, like those in Iraq who are now about to enter their teen years. We must address WHY we are hated so.
--> As far as other post-ers talking of the USA funding the Taliban/binLaden/Iraqis and others, consider this Fact:
On May 17, 2001, General Colin Powell announced $ 43million in aid for "Afghanistan". (And while he claimed that none was to go to Taliban, almost all of it did.)
don't believe it? read Colin powell's own words, and keep in mind that BOTH USAID and UNFAO said almost all the "aid" was "dispersed" by the Taliban...OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/20...cfm?docid=2928