Net-Force

Does anybody know of an organization called "Net-Force"? I just got an ICQ message from somebody claiming he was the founder of that organization, and he wanted me to become an "agent" to fight cyber-crime. He was kinda pushy about it, and he was trying really hard to sound official and professional. He gave me a link to his site. It was a Geocities site, and he used their page builder to design it.

So, what I'm trying to figure out, is whether this is real (i REALLY doubt it), or if I'm being pursued by a nerd, or even worse, a real sicko.

If the guy was a founder and their only web site is a Geocities site, it isn't real. First off, if this guy was a true founder, then I find it hard that this guy would be running around on ICQ trying to get members. Secondly, I could see if this organization was a spin-off of some true organization that they might have a Geocities site, but if all he gives you is that one, then that is really sad.

I suspect that if you were to say "Yes", the first assignment he would have for you "to fight cybercrime" would be to get the password of a known hacker's Hotmail account. ie - he just built an elaborate plan to get into his girlfriend's mail. (ok - not that elaborate if he used Geocities web-builder)

Yea, that's what I'm thinking too. That is, if he can even get a girlfriend. He sounds like he watched that kids' show "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" one too many times.

Here is the URL, if anyone's curious.

http://www.geocities.com/theredscorpions/netforce.html


I wonder if I could get an official Toy Story "Woody" badge if I join this thing. If I do, I would just HAVE to join. rofl

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Originally posted by stflook
Does anybody know of an organization called "Net-Force"? I just got an ICQ message from somebody claiming he was the founder of that organization, and he wanted me to become an "agent" to fight cyber-crime. He was kinda pushy about it, and he was trying really hard to sound official and professional. He gave me a link to his site. It was a Geocities site, and he used their page builder to design it.

So, what I'm trying to figure out, is whether this is real (i REALLY doubt it), or if I'm being pursued by a nerd, or even worse, a real sicko.

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Ask how long ago he founded it, and how many members he has... Any date after 9/11 (Interesting coincidence, given that 911 is an emergency number here in the states...), then don't bother. Before 9/11, give some consideration. More than a year, possibly. But, totally aside from that... do you want to be in it even if it is... how to say... established?

I would have to agree, it sounds pretty dubious. But I would add as a rule of thumb, if he 'founded' it after Sept 11, it's not worth it, because it will tend to attract the wrong people.

Net Force is a fictional series of books written by the author Tom Clancy! It's a Government agency that fights cyber crime. He's probably just read one of the books! As for asking how long ago he founded the group etc.....I wouldn't even give him the time of day



!rofl rofl

Yea, you're right. My first "mission" would probably be a "top-secret" one to find Osama Bin-Laden's virtual hideout, but not before we put on our "official" Net-Force capes. rofl
And when we're all done (before 7:00, or it will go past his bedtime), his mom would give us all virtual milk and cookies. rofl

I am a member!!!! Lmao of course not, well it is fake, but he says he is a former hacker with the "red scorpions"or sumn like that.... and made the site because the government was out to get him..... what ever, you can tell it is "fak eby the front page...... look at my atachment........ but ay if i was you i would join for fun, but dont give them any info on you..... do it for play.... but dont take him serious, probaly sum lil script kiddy......

:wow: Careful now people....."The Force" may be watching rofl rofl

This guy just sent me an e-mail about this "Net-Force" thing. Normally I wouldn't post something like this here, but you gotta read this! *laughing hysterically*

Dear new agent


We here at Net Force welcome you to our team. We here at Net Force hope
you
like the rest of us are going to have allot of fun tracking down cyber
criminals. If you do a crime on the net we will be the once that try
and we
will succeed in putting you were you belong in a small cell with a guy
named spike. Do the crime on line pay the prize in real time. We will
send
you the latest updates on our investigations as soon as we get any. And
again welcome to the team agent Stephen

Please also note that I never said I wanted to join this! rofl

Agent Stephen........your first mission,if you so choose to take it,is to teach this poor guy alittle good grammar........this message will self destruct 30 seconds after you read it. :airoff:

No, my first mission would be to teach this guy what a computer is. I don't think he would even be good enough to be a script kiddie! rofl

He probaly cant see a computer without picturing Windows......... not even a script kiddie..... more like Jack ass......

I could picture him calling the cops every time his firewall stops a ping request. That is, if he's even capbable of installing a firewall. :dunce:

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Originally posted by stflook
Yea, you're right. My first "mission" would probably be a "top-secret" one to find Osama Bin-Laden's virtual hideout, but not before we put on our "official" Net-Force capes. rofl
And when we're all done (before 7:00, or it will go past his bedtime), his mom would give us all virtual milk and cookies. rofl

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U never know if the man behind this "Net Force" is bin laden himself?:p

Nah, it takes quite a bit of work being a sterotypical criminal mastermind! I mean, the benefits are nice, you get one or two devoted fanatic bodyguards, maybe more, and the possible rule-the-world perquisite. Maybe a bit lacking on the 401k, and often without a people-will-not-shoot-at-you clause, but to my understanding the general contract is a pretty sweet deal so long as you surrender the copyright to your morals.

"I can't afford to make exceptions. I mean once word leaks out that an international terrorist leader has gone soft, people begin to disobey you and it's nothing but work, work, work all the time."

'anyone care to make a wager on how long the site will stay up?

5:4 it's out in less than 2 weeks.........

Have any of you looked at all the mailto: links for this sites...
Send an email here if you wanna join ([email protected])

If you wanna report a cyber crime, send an email to our tip center ([email protected])

If this person wanted to be taken seriously, a little real design for the site wouldn't hurt...


Additionally, a lot of the links on the ever so well design links page are to sites which make or publish products and information which is regarded as bad, naughty tools...

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The Red Scorpions was shut down by FBI so if you take the chalange you may end up in jail. That is why I had to statt net force to stop them from sending me to jail. I didn't want to be spikes new girlfriend you now lol
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What is this persons facination with a guy named spike?!?

Also... Why would the FBI have shut them down and sent people to jail..... could it possibly be that they were doing stuff that was considered. *gasp* illegal??? *providing of course that they existed in the first place and isn't just some script kiddies imagination run amok*

I seriously recommend people stop going to this stupid persons site.. all its doing is giving this fool more numbers on his web counter......

If they want to fight crime then they should probably get together and learn HTML first.

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Originally posted by bizzybutlazy
He probaly cant see a computer without picturing Windows......... not even a script kiddie..... more like Jack ass......

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Actually, more like dumbass......

I think either jackass or dumbass would work in this situation.....

He says he's a hacker, and I don't think he's even smart enough to be a script kiddie. Maybe I should test him. I should tell him to hack me using no help from me (that INCLUDES giving him my IP). I have 3 layers of firewall protection, so I'm not worried, especially with him. rofl

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Originally posted by stflook
He says he's a hacker, and I don't think he's even smart enough to be a script kiddie. Maybe I should test him. I should tell him to hack me using no help from me (that INCLUDES giving him my IP). I have 3 layers of firewall protection, so I'm not worried, especially with him. rofl

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Are you crazy this guy is obviously l337 and dangerous, my God man it's Net-Force they can deface any geocities site in 12 hours no problems, and Unicode is nothing to their superior hax0r skillzzz.

Oh God these people keep me laughing.

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Originally posted by Ennis


Are you crazy this guy is obviously l337 and dangerous, my God man it's Net-Force they can deface any geocities site in 12 hours no problems, and Unicode is nothing to their superior hax0r skillzzz.

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rofl OH MY GOD!! IT'S NET-FORCE!!
*people screaming in background*
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!! THEY'LL GET US ALL!! OH SWEET LORD NO!!!! AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! rofl rofl

Maybe... he is some stalker who has been following you online and knows where you live, and what you do, and who you know, and how many sheets of toilet paper on average you use when you wipe yourself, and who is on your hitlist, and what operating system you use, and all of your important passwords....


But....

That takes intelligence as well as effort, none of which he has...

How does one know if he is a he??? Psuedonyms are quite frequently used when pulling stunts such as these...

I think if you joined, he would probably, after making you a member in his organization, sign you up for the Backstreet Boys fan club.

ROFL

It sounds more like someone just got done signing up for the new online game called majestic, Its a game where you pay 9.95 a month to get fake phone calls from people and faxes, email, and all other sorts of junk. TO play the game you have to recruit certain amount of people. He probably seen the firstperson that showed up on his icq search and thought, WOW NEW MEMEBER>

as far as the site goes........haha.....Haha...HAHAHA...ok, it sux.

Update: This Net-Force guy e-mailed me again. I'll start back where I left off.

After he welcomed me in, I sent him an e-mail telling him that I didn't want into his group. He replied with a message which was kinda nasty at the end. It was something to the effect of him not giving a f*** if I joined or not. I sent an e-mail back telling him he didn't have to be a d*** about it, so he replied, and is THREATENING ME! rofl So I replied telling him that I don't appreciate the threat, and that I'm not intimidated. I also asked him to drop the whole thing before it escalates more than it needs to. He probably won't. *sigh*

So, my question is such:
How many times do you think he will be stopped by one of my firewalls before I get bored and block his IP?
The winner will get a small ego boost.

Watch out for suspect e-mail's from people saying

Hi! Read This!

I found this cool proggy check it out!

Attachment: Notatrojan.jpg.exe

:D

I'll remember that, but I'm not worried about him. Check out his latest e-mail to me.

**** YOU I WILL HAVE THE WORLD'S POPULATION OF BACK HAT HACKERS ATTACK
YOU
BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID. BY THE WAY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO. YOUR IP
IS
216.136.131.58 YOU KNOW WHAT AN IP IS RIGHT HA HA.

First off, his spelling and grammar both suck. Second, that is nowhere near my IP address. He's just bluffing in an attempt to get me to fear him. I'm acting like I'm backing off. Hopefully this will get him to go away.

For him, that would probably be the way he sends it. Iw would probably be from the same address too. I'm not worried about him. Check out his latest e-mail to me.

**** YOU I WILL HAVE THE WORLD'S POPULATION OF BACK HAT HACKERS ATTACK
YOU
BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID. BY THE WAY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO. YOUR IP
IS
216.136.131.58 YOU KNOW WHAT AN IP IS RIGHT HA HA.

First off, his spelling and grammar both suck. Second, that is nowhere near my IP address. He's just bluffing in an attempt to get me to fear him. I'm acting like I'm backing off. Hopefully this will get him to go away. He's really testing my patience.....

]Well, I traced the IP that the netforce jerk gave to stflook, and guess where it goes? To on of Yahoo's mail servers! Flook is right, this guy is a dumbass. He saw the Ip and figured that it must be stflook's IP address...I will be shocked the day that kid ever figures out his real IP address... ROFL:fart:

He hasn't, and probably won't. It's been over a week now, and I haven't seen so much as a single ping or port probe from him. I was just kidding around when I claimed he wasn't even good enough to be a script kiddie, but it appears I was right. Even script kiddies know how to trace an IP. This dim bulb tried to trace me using a Yahoo e-mail account. I should report him to his ISP anyway. The average user would be absolutely terrorized by his threats (unless they note his bad spelling and grammar, and put 2 and 2 together).

Hmm... It sounds like he picked the wrong IP from header information... Some web-mail services could concievably put your posting IP in the header, however... It's possible.

He could have been right... if you had posted from your mailserver... Which implies your personal computer is connected 24/7 and runs a variety of services, in which case he should realize anyone running that kind of setup is probably not inexperienced...

I would say you refer him over to #Antionline... fresh poser meat.

Or to KaKoKool. I mean, at least he has a "hacker certification". :P

Why don't you just do some cyberstalking? :D

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BTW, 'Antionline.org' webmail and hotmail both show your IP in outgoing messages! Just a further watchout, guys. If you have a dynamic IP allocation scheme with your ISP, it's fine, but if you have a static IP, don't write mail to people you don't like with hotmail or the antionline.org mail system.

(Hotmail has it as the originating address in the message-route information, and Antionline.org has it in the X-originating-IP line.)

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Yahoo.com also has IP address information in the routing section!!! Just be warned that he might realize his mistake, and that he has the IP address of whatever you were on when you sent the mail.

That's all fine, but I use Yahoo, which doesn't include the IP of the sender as far as I know. Besides, what could this lamer possibly do to me? I have 3 layers of firewall protection, and network intrusion detection. He's a script kiddie at best, and therefore stands less than a snowball's chance in hell of getting through even the first layer.

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Originally posted by Matty Cross
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The Red Scorpions was shut down by FBI so if you take the chalange you may end up in jail. That is why I had to statt net force to stop them from sending me to jail. I didn't want to be spikes new girlfriend you now lol
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What is this persons facination with a guy named spike?!?
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As I recall, there is a mention of a phrase like that on "The Happy Hacker", as being the fate of those who cross the law the wrong way with computers. It's mentioned several times, often in the "Sucks to be Me" listings.

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Originally posted by stflook
That's all fine, but I use Yahoo, which doesn't include the IP of the sender as far as I know. Besides, what could this lamer possibly do to me? I have 3 layers of firewall protection, and network intrusion detection. He's a script kiddie at best, and therefore stands less than a snowball's chance in hell of getting through even the first layer.

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I had an edit to my message... Yahoo.com's free webmail does include your IP address. Just FYI. I'm not saying he's a threat or anything, just that you shouldn't ignore the possibility that he has your IP and some lame-o plan for getting at you.

Anyone else find it sort of ironic that he says the Red Scorpions were shut down by the FBI... then he starts Net Force to be some sort of good guys against criminals... and then he claims he will summon the collective wrath of the 'back (sic) hat hackers'? Now why would any criminals help him if he had a track-em-down-and-turn-em-in club? I mean, even if you assume he's telling the truth, nothing makes sense... Maybe he has psychological issues.

Yea, I thought of that too. Didn't I post that already? I probably didn't. Oh well. I've seen people like him before. He will do anything to get attention, even if it means risking trouble with the law. He's probably trying to get back at his classmates for thinking of him as a geek.

You should probably just report his ass to the ISP he uses...remeber, boys and girls, script kiddies are people too...stupid people too dumb to do anything else...so have mercy on his self and report him...don't worry about his little "back hat(?)" group...like someone posted earlier, black hat hackers won't help somebody if they catch a small whif of a narcker (?), which this kid obviously is.

Dang !!!

How come I didn't get asked to join such an elite group as 'Net Force' ?

I really feel left out.

roflmao

Deer civilians,
I am a reprezinativ of 'a hackin' grupe that wuz hired by Goerge Dubya 2 track down Net-Force, thus our name, Net-Force-Net-Force. We use advinced govermint matrix hacking programs that were made by top seceret peeeple. We cood have the most advanced peeoples in the world for us, nad will pay 1000,0000,000 a year 2 work for us. That is whyh we are looking for poeple N thsi board to hac kfor us. email me if you r interested and know hwo 2 hack hotmail accnts.

Super Duper Top Secret FBi/CIA Super Spy 007.5,
comJo

lol. (grammar and sarcasm intentunal).

Fags., their little ping of death scripts are clogging up the internet and are the prime reason why it takes so long for my pr0n 2 dl. grrrrrr.

----- shout out to all of the TRU'S still out there who actually study, research, LEARN, and actually CONTRIBUTE to the cause, rather than blasphemy it. I commed you for your efforts.

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Originally posted by dcongram
Dang !!!

How come I didn't get asked to join such an elite group as 'Net Force' ?

I really feel left out.

roflmao

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One day young man, you too will be an agent of Net-Force, until that day you must learn the ways of a white hat, no wait black hat hacker, wait were both somehow?