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What is a good language to learn on? Also, where are some good places to get the software and/or tutorials for it?(If necessary). I took a class on VBasic, so I'm not entirely new, but my current school doesn't have any courses other than computer basics and HTML.
Thank you for your help.
Go here and see what everybody recommends
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=121420 :D
thanks, but that's the thread that made me think of this, and it isn't quite what I'm looking for.
Perl is a good one to start on, that's what i'm teaching myself right now. It's simple, but still powerful, and its free.
I believe that Python is a good language to learn it's well documented relatively easy to learn and there are quite a few great tutorials out on the internet.
C++ is a VERY handy language to know but it's hard to start with. It has the most versatility compared to most languages I have seen. I mean, you can even write your own Delete method to increase speed and decrease memory requirements!
Java is on the same lines as C++ but not quite as fast and almost as annoying. Basically Java is a memory sloth (automatic garbage collection makes life easy for you but hard for your processor). It is on the other hand easy to debug and find out what is wrong in your code. It also handles errors quite nicely if you are expecting them to happen.
VB is pretty lame from my experiences - pain in the ass more like it. But it is handy for point and click programmers and if you're doing asp.
Don't know perl or python.
A good place to learn different languages is by browsing your local universities computer science department home page and look at low level programming courses. By the end of the term they will have a bunch of examples of programs, lecture notes, etc for you to learn from all for 'free' (who needs to pay tuition anyways?)!
If you wanna check out my uni's site go to University of Victoria . Go to the courses page and check out csc110 and 115 for java help. 230 for assembler and SENG 265 for some unix command line coding in C.
A good starting language to learn is Turbo Pascal.
It may be old, but is quite simple and easy to learn.
I found that the greatest advantage of it was that once you had a good grasp of it, moving to other Object Oriented Programming languages was quite easy.
ive been learning c++. i like it alot, it really hasnt been that hard and it is my first REAL language(i dont count the language for TI-86's or the little basic i learned when i was really young). i started teaching myself VB, but i kinda stoped...i like c++ much more.
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Originally posted by Kezil
What is a good language to learn on? Also, where are some good places to get the software and/or tutorials for it?(If necessary). I took a class on VBasic, so I'm not entirely new, but my current school doesn't have any courses other than computer basics and HTML.
Thank you for your help.
according to me C and C++ with some knowledge of Assembly will totally make a very good combination
if u want some really great tutorials then check out this :-
1) www.programmersheaven.com
2) www.codecranker.com
3)www.codepile.com
4)www.cprogramming.com
5)www.programmerszone.com
6)www.vcworld.f2s.com
hope this will help u...
intruder.... :borg:
Its gotta be C/C++, youll find if you end up running Linux lets say that C is a very handy langauge to know.
ummm....old school fortran just for shits and giggles...basic...then ya can graduate to Visual Basic...ummm...C++...C#...JAVA...Pascal...and if ya wanna go bald at an early age...try your hand at Assembly...and please remember that those were not listed in a particular order...have fun learning...I think I'll just stick with learning to do networking...i suck at math anyways :cool:
If you've done VB then i suggest that you try Delphi, java or C++. At the moment i dont think that i'd start doing assembly but the above arn't too difficult to learn and should take you quite a long way. If you're planning on programming for a living i recommend C++ as pretty much everyone states that you have to hav a few years commercial C++ experience :)
TCL
It's almost as powerful as perl and it is easier to learn/use. When you get a good grasp on it, you can also do TK for graphics environments.
Happy Hacking
All right, I've seen some stuff on C, and I think it should be easy enough to learn.
I've also seen that it needs a compiler to use the code, so where can I find one to use? any other links having to do with C would also be appreciated. Thanks again.:D
(edited "assembler" to "compiler")
Kezil, what operating system are you running?
Here's a GNU C/C++ compiler that will run on DOS:
http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/
Learning one language as opposed to another for whatever reason will not make you a better programmer. Most object orientated languages and structured languages are identical logically. Some happen to have more libraries than others allowing things to happen quicker. I suggest, if you are serious to first learn to make a flow chart and be able to write 'proper' pseudo code. After that, learning a language is as simple as learning its syntax. If you are ready to learn a language now, it is always good to start with C as it is the foundation of many other languages and is very powerful - if C seems too archaic for you and you seek something that utilizes 'modern' programming methods, you might like java. There is a very large java community on http://java.sun.com with massive amounts of API documentation and tutorials as well as forums for asking the most basic questions without getting a flame in return. At work I am using mainly JAVA, when I need a fast 'low level' routine I write a linked library in C++ and use the java native interface to call upon it and I use PERL for various system administrating tasks on the sun e-servers. All languages have their use and are in general simple to learn -> stick with logic and you shant have a problem.
Yes, DJGPP is an EXCELLENT compiler. You can also download Borland's compiler for free (though you won't get a pretty IDE). Or you can spend some money and purchase Visual C++ if you've got plenty of RAM and a Gig or too free on your Hard Drive. If you aren't too timid about partitioning your drive, you could install Linux and use the GNU compiler that comes with it. Yes, we are recommending C++ compilers, but they will compile C as well. These compilers also have an assembler "built in" You don't have to know assembler to use the compilers. The compilers will call the assembler and linker for you. They HAVE to have access to an assembler and linker to create an executable. Hope this helps.
Happy Hacking
(in reference to xstonedogx's post)
ah, yes, I forgot that. I'm running WindowsME (came with the sys) and I should get redhat soon.
I see gaxprels, suggested tcl already. And I will back them up on that. :)
It has a low learning curve, extensible, and multi-platform. Pretty easy to make graphical applications. And even though you hardly hear about it. It has an amazing amount of documentation and support for it. You can get tcl/tk from sourceforge
all right, what exactly are pseudo-code and flow charts? Thanks yet again.
a flowchart is a pictoral method of writing a computer algorithm using standard shapes representing various actions and arrows mapping out the 'flow' of the algorithm. Pseudo code is code written in 'natural language', pseudo meaning 'deceitful' , fake code. They are not actual languages.
Turbo Pascal? TCL? Interesting suggestions (I hope no one said FORTRAN :)
Anyways, Perl is a great language and definately worth learning, but starting with C is the best idea. You can then move on to other languages easily (most books will compare them to C)
Good Luck :thumbsup:
What is an IDE? Also, could I get some more info on flow charts and pseudo code, please? Links to windowsME compilers would also be appreciated. Yet again, my thanks.
An IDE is an Integrated Development Environment. I think it's integrated anyways, can't quite remember.
Pseudo code would look like this:
if there are nodes
While I still have nodes to go through
take the info from this node and save it
increment the index
end while
else
give an error message
Basically it's code but written in english, not java/c++/perl etc. Makes it a lot easier to decide what you are going to do and how you are doing it without having to worry about syntax.
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Originally posted by Stronzo
An IDE is an Integrated Development Environment. I think it's integrated anyways, can't quite remember.
Pseudo code would look like this:
if there are nodes
While I still have nodes to go through
take the info from this node and save it
increment the index
end while
else
give an error message
Basically it's code but written in english, not java/c++/perl etc. Makes it a lot easier to decide what you are going to do and how you are doing it without having to worry about syntax.
if u r looking for codes for different languages then simply go here
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I haven't found much code on that site that is useful for anything other than a windows environment.
JMHO
Also....
While code snippets are good to learn from, a tutorial/book/classroom is better to get a grasp on the fundamentals of programming in general (which is what this thread is originally about.
Happy Hacking
If your looking for books and stuff on languages, and are runnign Morpheus *(eater of bandwidth)* just run a search on it for the language you are looking for.. I found like 5 or 6 Java books on it just last week, some C/++ Books, even some *shudder* Visual Basic books...
If you don't run morpheus and want some books, drop us a line and I'll email you the ones I have or put them up on my shyte site...
Uh, no, I don't have morpeus..Thanks
Here are the books I currently have, with size....
C++ Unleashed |PDF| 4,112KB
C & C++ Programming Style Guidelines |PDF| 168K
C++ Programming HOW−TO |PDF| 213K
330 Java Tips |PDF| 516K
Java Programming Unleased |DOC| 2,365K
Teach Yourself Java in 21 Days |PDF| 5,899KB
Teach Yourself Java Programming in 24 Hours |DOC| 876KB
Thinking in Java - Second Edition |PDF| 4,075KB
Visual Basic in 12 Easy Lessons |PDF| 2,418KB
Computer Programming Concepts & VB (Beginner How-To) |PDF| 6,287KB
Visual Basic & Databases |DOC| 925KB
Visual Basic 6 MCSD Exams |PDF| 13,785
Drop us a line if you want any of them... I can't put them all up, damn limited web space.... just thought of something... email me on [email protected] if you want some of the books.. I'll drop the url that they will be stored on in here later...
Gonna go claim my Optus@Home web space....:D
P.S. Does anyone have any programs which can convert DOC files to PDF files?