Im just curious to know what peoples feelings are about highspeed internet as opposed to dial-up. I have met some die hard dial up fans and some highspeed fans. I just started with a new dial up service and I am impressed so far. Peace.
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Im just curious to know what peoples feelings are about highspeed internet as opposed to dial-up. I have met some die hard dial up fans and some highspeed fans. I just started with a new dial up service and I am impressed so far. Peace.
Ok, you can't compare dial-up to broadband.
It is like comparing a Porshe to a volkswagen beetle.
I have cable. And I usually get around 1200 kb/s. Granted it can vary quite a bit, just because of how cable works. Or you can get DSL which gives you about the same speed every single time, such as 300 kb/s or whatever. Those speeds are for downstream of course. And most broadband ISP's cap your upstream to 128k. I have had cable for 3 years now, and hopefully I will never have to go back to dialup.
Dialup is good, if you only want to:
1. send/recieve email
2. Be online a short time
3. Don't mind waiting forever to have websites load.
4. Like getting a new IP addy everytime you get online
5. IRC/ICQ/AIM = what have you
6. Don't have alot of cash to pay for broadband
Hard-core dial-up fans? You mean they LIKE having low bandwidth like that? Why on earth would they love dial-up connections? Am I missing something?
suffice to say this: Once you've had broadband you will NEVER be able to go back to dial-up and be happy - its not like comparing a porche to a beetle, its like comparing a porche to a covered wagon with no wheels and a gimpy horse
That's the truth. I was one of the first to sign up for a cable service about a year ago. I didn't know what to do with all the bandwidth I didn't have on a dial-up connection. Gradually, I learned. Then my cable company over-distributed. They had to lease lines from other companies, and recently lost one of their providers quite abruptly. My service is good for about dial-up speed right now, and I'm going NUTS! This problem was supposed to be resolved over a week ago. In the meantime, I feel like I lost family member.Quote:
Originally posted by Evil Homer
suffice to say this: Once you've had broadband you will NEVER be able to go back to dial-up and be happy - its not like comparing a porche to a beetle, its like comparing a porche to a covered wagon with no wheels and a gimpy horse
In short, high-speed wins hands down. There's no contest.
What is "Dial-up"
I can't believe I'm doing this, and I'm probably going to regret it later, but I'm going to assume that was a real question and not sarcasm.Quote:
Originally posted by CaseSensitive
What is "Dial-up"
A dial-up connection is a connection to the internet using the user's existing phone-lines. They dial into their ISP to connect.
Please, oh PLEASE tell me that wasn't a serious question.
I'm moving to my resident bout a year a go. Sadly, there's no ISDN or other broadband here. So I need to dial-up my modem first. I put two line here, one for my house phone and one for internet. Sometime I need to dial several time to get connected. Really hard. I wish I have a satellite direct connection. So that I don't have do dial again.
I live out in the middle of nowhere...we are living in the medieval age of phone lines out here man...These lines are 40+ years old...I could have that StarBand thingy...but I figured it out to be a thousand dollars to start with and then 70 dollars a month after that...supposedly 10Mps download speed...I think I'll just stick with my free dial up account at my college...
try having a winmodem running dialup on 40 year old lines...yeah...IT SUX!!!...I'll load up my browser and when it begins to dial...something will end up writing something to somewhere...a cache or something and garble up the transmission....does anyone have any clue how to combat this problem....plus...I can't even have a firewall going anyways...it chews up my limited resources and ends up killing my connection...I can barely have my browser going....I wanna chop over those poles outside so the company has to come and install newer lines...no...I can't do that....all they have in jail near where I am is Windows 3.1...that would be even worse...although it would be fun to write a few batch files to run from Autoexec...
I'm pretty sure CaseSensitive was joking, Stflook ;)Quote:
Originally posted by stflook
A dial-up connection is a connection to the internet using the user's existing phone-lines. They dial into their ISP to connect.
Your definition isn't correct though. Well, your definition is correct, but you should narrow it down... I have ADSL, and I do the exact thing you described: I use my existing (50 years old!) phone-lines, and I dial into my ISP to connect. The same goes for Gstudios' advantages of dial-up. '(if you) Like getting a new IP addy everytime you get online' could be ADSL too.
Here's a (short) overview of existing technologies:
- Dial-up: a modem converts ('modulates') the digital signals coming from your computer to analog signals, and then puts them on the telephone line. The receiving modem converts ('demodulates') those analog signals back into digital signals.
(MOdulate-DEModulate). Most of those modems use V.90-technology, meaning a theoretical maximum of 56.000 bps (bits per second) download, and 33.600 bps upload. There's a difference between upload and download stream, so we speak about an assymetric connection here. The V.92 protocol should be available by now, too. The differences are a 40% faster upload (theoretically) and a three times faster connection negotation.
- ISDN (Integrated Services Digital Network) : same principle. ISDN uses a digital telephone line instead of an analoge one. Speed is about 64 Kbs. ISDN is a symmetric technology (upload speed = download speed).
- DSL: - ADSL (Assymetric Digital Subscriber Line): ADSL is an extension of the dial-up-technology. It uses the bandwith on your telephone line that is not used for telephony. You'll need a splitter to 'cut' the telephone line. More information can be found here.
- Cable: more information here.
And then there's satellite...
Here's what I know about it: computerdata is coded into an MPEG-videostream. A satellite is capable of sending signals to the earth, but is not capable to take care of the upstream, meaning you'll still need another (broadband) connection.
I used to have DSL when I lived in the city but now that I am back in the sticks I have to settle for a dial-up. Its only five bucks a month though so at least I am getting what I pay for now or vice-versa. :D Peace.
Like I said, I was pretty sure I was going to be sorry for taking that question seriously. I am now. So ashamed.........:(Quote:
Originally posted by Negative
I'm pretty sure CaseSensitive was joking, Stflook ;)
Your definition isn't correct though. Well, your definition is correct, but you should narrow it down... I have ADSL, and I do the exact thing you described: I use my existing (50 years old!) phone-lines, and I dial into my ISP to connect. The same goes for Gstudios' advantages of dial-up. '(if you) Like getting a new IP addy everytime you get online' could be ADSL too.
Here's a (short) overview of existing technologies:
- Dial-up: a modem converts ('modulates') the digital signals coming from your computer to analog signals, and then puts them on the telephone line. The receiving modem converts ('demodulates') those analog signals back into digital signals.
(MOdulate-DEModulate). Most of those modems use V.90-technology, meaning a theoretical maximum of 56.000 bps (bits per second) download, and 33.600 bps upload. There's a difference between upload and download stream, so we speak about an assymetric connection here. The V.92 protocol should be available by now, too. The differences are a 40% faster upload (theoretically) and a three times faster connection negotation.
- ISDN (Integrated Services Digital Network) : same principle. ISDN uses a digital telephone line instead of an analoge one. Speed is about 64 Kbs. ISDN is a symmetric technology (upload speed = download speed).
- DSL: - ADSL (Assymetric Digital Subscriber Line): ADSL is an extension of the dial-up-technology. It uses the bandwith on your telephone line that is not used for telephony. You'll need a splitter to 'cut' the telephone line. More information can be found here.
- Cable: more information here.
And then there's satellite...
Here's what I know about it: computerdata is coded into an MPEG-videostream. A satellite is capable of sending signals to the earth, but is not capable to take care of the upstream, meaning you'll still need another (broadband) connection.
so if you run on fifty year old lines how is the connection...mine is pretty raw...of course it all boils down to that winmodem of mine too...maybe I'll get rid of that software Motorola thingy and hookup an external USB modem
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Originally posted by tripstone
so if you run on fifty year old lines how is the connection...mine is pretty raw...of course it all boils down to that winmodem of mine too...maybe I'll get rid of that software Motorola thingy and hookup an external USB modem
Wow...thats very high tech, tripstone. You must be a computer genius. Come to think of it all your posts are pretty much the same. Do you actually know anything about security or do you just boost your number of posts with pathetic threads like this?
Stflook-Hope your box is secure.....:killcompu
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but are you THREATENING me!? :verypisseQuote:
Originally posted by Bad_N3wZ
Stflook-Hope your box is secure.....:killcompu
um...dude all of your post are the same too... they are all "your a moron" "stfu newbie" or "OMG!!@@@! YOU ARE SOO STUPID!@# I AM SO MUCH 13373|2 THAN YOUR DUMB ASS!"Quote:
Originally posted by Bad_N3wZ
Come to think of it all your posts are pretty much the same.
go grab some script kiddie tools, use your 1337 h4x0r skillz to fux0r wit da pentagon, and get yourself put in jail for a very long time. please. i think we would all thank you.
Wow.....did he really say that some people prefer dial ups.... my mates got an adsl line an it rocks especially when comp[ared with my puny 56k modem. And Bad News....it seems that you're the one trying to boost the number of post you've got. Also i wont sink to your level with pathetic insults. This is a general Chit chat board not the 31337 uberhacker board.
I know absolutely nothing about security...that's why I am here...sorry if I seem "computer illiterate"...I state over and over that I am not a hacker...I am not "l33t"...if you are expecting everyone here to be a security expert...well then that is your dilemna...don't push your little problems off on to me...thank you very much....stick your lips where my sig at the bottom tells you to...
i never have and never will like dial up. the connections are slow. that's the bottom line, it's slow. and plus, you get kicked off, which is really annoying when your dl a 20mb file. so that's why i hate it
-havanger
The phone\cable company I work for has all of them(except sat.) so I've got to try them all ASDL was the best to me but our catv is just one way it still uses the phonelines to upload.:)