Net Force Returns.

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October 30th, 2001, 06:07 PM
Ennis

Net Force Returns.

Ok, today I was on IRC chatting away to a friend of mine about a small project we were working on. Going ok until I got added to some guy's ICQ list then promptly recieved a message. It was some guy called s0rcerer or something like that.

S0rcerer: Who is this?
Ennis: ?
S0rcerer: You added me to your list.
Ennis: No, sorry I didnt.
S0rcerer: www.netforce.4t.com
Ennis: wtf?
S0rcerer: It's my site.
Ennis: Go away plz.

I did go to site however and yes its an updated version of the Net-Force site.

Anyway I told my buddy on IRC who decided to find out who this guy really was by sending him a msg from his ICQ, apparently he claimed to my freind he was in 'cdc'.

'cdc' my freind asked

'Cult of the Dead Cow' he replied.

Then you should be a pretty good programmer? - friend

'Gotta go' and he went offline.

Now I know this happened before but has anybody else had people from this Net-Force group adding you to their ICQ list then claiming you added them?
October 30th, 2001, 06:53 PM
evilseed

Interesting.....

Maybe someone should deface their website.. heh
October 30th, 2001, 06:59 PM
Ennis

Thats not why I posted this, Im just checking if any other members from this board have recieved this kind of annoyance recently.

Im not looking for revenge.
October 30th, 2001, 09:05 PM
8*B@LL

ok, hopefully im not gonna make myself sound like a complete fool right now, but isnt it a bit counter logical to have cDc "affilated"(according to that crappy website) to netforce, a suposed anti-cyber crime group? i mean cDc is behind BackOrifice which is right up there with sub7 in terms of trojan popularity, if im not mistaken...it just seems like cDc wouldnt want anything to do with a group like netforce proports to be...
October 30th, 2001, 09:06 PM
stflook

If he says he can program, ask him if if he used an HTML generator for his website this time! rofl
After I told him that he had failed to get my IP address, he never came back. Could it be that he realized I knew he was a fraud? Most likely.
I just looked at the source code for his site, and it's definitely from a code generator (a pretty bad one at that).

Here's another thing that confuses me about this site. It SELLS "official" Net-Force clothing to it's members. Here's the problem with that:

1. They're supposed to be "undercover"
2. They "track down" CYBER-criminals. What the hell do they need a uniform to sit down at their computer for?

God this guy never fails to crack me up.......
October 30th, 2001, 09:07 PM
Terr

I think he's probably just trying to make it seem like he isn't doing spam-recruitment... I would just add him to your invisible list, but keep him unignored just in case he actually says something like an apology...

I KNOW...

Everyone, put together all the conflicting and/or badly written Netforce statements and claims... let's make a little 'debunking Net Force' text! I've got a new target :D
October 30th, 2001, 09:14 PM
stflook

This quote came from the "official" Net-Force website.
"Our agents go where no other law enforcement agency can.
Sometimes to catch a criminal you have to become one."

I don't think I have to say anything......*cough*HYPOCRITE!
Sorry....I have a cold.
October 30th, 2001, 10:08 PM
8*B@LL

from the main page of their site:
"DO NOT BE FOOLED! Our on line Agents NEVER identify themselves as a "Net Force" to another on line user or users. Net Force only interact with suspects to gather evidence."
ok...then how come i've seen 2 people here who have been contacted by people quite clearly claiming to be "Net Force"... also...if they are suposed to be "super-secret" or whatever, how come they list all the members and their emails on the website?

just as a side note, as far as i can tell, all the news on their news page has been coppied and paisted directly from the antionline news pages
October 30th, 2001, 10:22 PM
freeOn

Net force is an undercover cop/government organization, they try to draw you to them hoping that you will give them more information about illegal activites that either you or a friend did. This is how they are able to find you where ever you go on the net. I would watch what you say to people and your activity on the net.

I had a friend in San Diego before I moved to Iowa get looked up.By the same people. He was getting e-mails, and I think he even got a letter in the mail about a job that you would have to apply for on the net. This got him really suspicious. Then he learned and was mailing people for a long time about this ****. He was smart enough to hide all his activities on his computer and on the net. But that is what it is.
October 30th, 2001, 10:28 PM
stflook

Quote:

Originally posted by 8*B@LL
from the main page of their site:
"DO NOT BE FOOLED! Our on line Agents NEVER identify themselves as a "Net Force" to another on line user or users. Net Force only interact with suspects to gather evidence."
ok...then how come i've seen 2 people here who have been contacted by people quite clearly claiming to be "Net Force"... also...if they are suposed to be "super-secret" or whatever, how come they list all the members and their emails on the website?

Simple. They're computer-illiterate posers who think they can hack because they can download script kiddie programs. I know that sounds harsh, but I challenge somebody to prove me otherwise.
October 30th, 2001, 10:39 PM
Ennis

I noticed that their news was copied from the Antionline headlines also. I hope that this helps people realise that when you get contacted by this *group* not to take it seriously.
October 31st, 2001, 02:59 AM
8*B@LL

Quote:

Originally posted by stflook

Simple. They're computer-illiterate posers who think they can hack because they can download script kiddie programs. I know that sounds harsh, but I challenge somebody to prove me otherwise.

no offence man, but that was a rhetorical question...not a serious one. i was pointing out their flaws by letting you figure it out :-P
October 31st, 2001, 03:15 AM
LoggOff

ya know, mabee itd be more apropriate to call them 'Net-Farce'
October 31st, 2001, 03:26 AM
stflook

Quote:

Originally posted by 8*B@LL

no offence man, but that was a rhetorical question...not a serious one. i was pointing out their flaws by letting you figure it out :-P

I know. It's just that I'm still a little mad at that little parasite s0rcerer running around threatening to hack me. He couldn't even get my IP. He was discovered for what he was - a worthless, immature little script kiddie (at best), and knows it. Yet he's still dumb enough to keep pulling this crap. I used to tell people to leave him alone because he's unstable, VERY annoying, and not worth their time. Now I say do whatever you want because the little turd's harmless, and great for a laugh.
October 31st, 2001, 07:13 AM
Terr

Yeah, they've got issues... they have a page on a free hosting service, yet their founder is entitled "CEO"...

They have a ton of 'affiliates', but I wonder if there is a legal definition for that. I'm darn-tootin-sure their 'affiliates' don't even know they are being claimed as affiliates... Maybe I'll send some "FYI" mails to that extent...
October 31st, 2001, 07:17 AM
8*B@LL

lol...sombody should drop cDc a little note telling them they are listed on the site...then we could just sit back and watch the show...heh

[added]
i droped a note in the cDc feedback. i wonder how this will play out.
October 31st, 2001, 07:35 PM
stflook

Quote:

Originally posted by Terr
Yeah, they've got issues... they have a page on a free hosting service, yet their founder is entitled "CEO"...

They have a ton of 'affiliates', but I wonder if there is a legal definition for that. I'm darn-tootin-sure their 'affiliates' don't even know they are being claimed as affiliates... Maybe I'll send some "FYI" mails to that extent...

You should. Then we can all sit back and watch the fireworks. I'll bring the matches!
October 31st, 2001, 07:42 PM
Havanger

sorry, don't like icq, never have.

-havanger
November 1st, 2001, 06:41 AM
Terr

Quote:

Originally posted by stflook

You should. Then we can all sit back and watch the fireworks. I'll bring the matches!

Unfortunately, an "Affiliate" is a very greasy and undefined definiton from a legal sense. It strongly implies reciprocity, mutual affiliate-ism, but I don't think you could sue someone for claiming you were an affailiate of theirs.
November 1st, 2001, 02:07 PM
Ennis

I doubt you could be sued for claiming to be an affialate either, anyway 'cdc' would probably just laugh if they saw this site, nobody surely believes they really are affialates.