Well ... Let's ask ... Is there any woman in here ?
Jean-Francois
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Well ... Let's ask ... Is there any woman in here ?
Jean-Francois
Sorry to disappoint you but Im all man.
Oh, yeah.....brickwall
so uh, who's the female. i'm pretty sure msmittens is of the female gender, anyone else. not that i'm a lonley loser (i do have a gf), but just wondering. as there tends to be no females in my classes i'm wondering if there are any on AO.
-havanger
I use to be a female. OR wait maybe that was just a dream.. :confused:
rPc
I am a male and I *AM* a lonley loser. :(
01101101,
I'm a toaster...does that count? I am also looking for a cute blender for some fun time.
Why do you want to know if there are females using this site? Cannt you find a date else where other than on line. And yes I`m a female but I come here to find out how I can improve my computer skills not get hassled like poor MsMittens.
sure we can get dates, at least i know i can. we were just wondering. just be curouis. i for myself find that there are absolutely no girls in my IT classes and find that very disturbing. i know there HAS to be some girls out ther interested in IT or at least security.
-havanger
I am here and I am female, also interested in security
if thats a pic of you...(wolf whistle)...we have a looker here guys...and shes a future computer geek...BONUS!
If im not mistaken, that is a picture of Jessica Rabbit from Who Framed Roger Rabbit? A classic in its own right. lol just messing with you tripstone. Keep up the flirting.
Being a female, I've noticed that they are few and far between in IT.
As some of the other women noted, female IT types are far and few between. There are even fewer in the security area. As an instructor, I'm seeing fewer and fewer women getting into networking and/or administrative work. A class I recently started teaching was all guys. And I know that a few had problems at first having a female instructor.
It's a shame. Being a network administrator is fun. It's too bad that more women aren't in this field. You can help people and as a security admin (or in my case, an instructor) help people. ;)
I think there is a fine line between geek and tech jerk..
I'm Tek-Goth.. as I've said b4.. but.. as I feel flirting online is pathetic.. unless.. you know them in person.. and.. even then.. they better like you before you bother them.. Too many techs.. flirt online.. say dumb things.. and try to catch the female IT's eye.. It's really pathetic.. it downgrades your whole online image to some horny teen with bad jokes.. What is flirting online really going to get you? Most likely.. you wont live anywhere near each other.. and they're not going to be into flying down to see some loser from AO.. pic or not... sorry to burst your bubble.. but look from the girls point of view.. Although.. I am male.. I'm trying to give you some advice.. Now.. as far as the goth-tek part goes.. I'm not an introvert to the point where I have no friends... I mostly hang out with girls.. Can't blame me.. and.. while I don't try to get in their pants.. as the saying goes.. Intimacy can develop just because I'm not looking for it.. and they sense that..
They sense EVERYTHING.. shhh.. hold on.. I think they're sensing this... SECURITY BREACHED!
=]:
Do I get any positive antipoints for being a girl??:p
ME female too...:D
n computers :rolleyes: - still got to learn a lot.
n hey TeKRoMaNCeR, i think u take things too seriously.
take it easy man!
afterall flirting online isn't that bad :D
What will you guys do if I give some out? (I rarely use the antipoint functions, though.)Quote:
Originally posted by pooja
Do I get any positive antipoints for being a girl??:p
I think there's just this sort of feeling like: "Hey, they're female, *AND* they might laugh at my jokes and understand why I have to change the TCP window size on this network!"
Though I think most people will tend to gravitate towards the worst possible person for them, and most people eventually get lucky and find someone who is compatible on a deeper level...
You know what sucks being a tech guy, at the end of the day (or anytime for that matter), no one wants to here about that program/bug you're working on or that that new firewall/ids box you've just set up is just so paranoid and you think it's cool...
Heck, I can't even talk (with my father who's in comps too) about it at the dinner table without getting "not that boring crap again" looks from my sisters and mother...
Anyways... just had to get that off my chest!
Ammo
sorry for nitpicking...but shouldnt the post be headed..
"Arent there any women...'..
Or perhaps 'Are any women here'Quote:
Originally posted by yossarian
sorry for nitpicking...but shouldnt the post be headed..
"Arent there any women...'..
or maybe 'how many women in this forum'
or just 'Women in this forum please raise you right hand'?;)
PUN INTENDED!!!!
:p
so true.. i wish i could talk with my gf about this stuffs without boring her. :(Quote:
You know what sucks being a tech guy, at the end of the day (or anytime for that matter), no one wants to here about that program/bug you're working on or that that new firewall/ids box you've just set up is just so paranoid and you think it's cool...
Heck, I can't even talk (with my father who's in comps too) about it at the dinner table without getting "not that boring crap again" looks from my sisters and mother...
Anyways... just had to get that off my chest!
Ammo
Even when a simple question like 'are there any females here' gets a simple 'yes' answer, would you believe the one posting it without questioning back if their answer is true or not ?
The veil of the unseen makes almost two thirds the revelations of personal aspects suspect. There is much too much going on in the electronic shadows to warrant complete naked trust when someone gives clues about their body's existing state ;)
Curio greets you :)
(would you really believe me if I told you I was a female ? If of course I were to say so. Conjecture of course :D )
Well, I'm lucky. My bestfriend, which is a guy, is the one that got me into IT and Security. So, I have him to talk to about all of this. But I totally understand about not having someone to talk to though or boring people. My boyfriend is like "whatever" when I'm trying to tell him about something that I found and I'm all excited about it. He just looks at me like I'm weird. So, he works Shut Downs in Mills, and trys to tell me about his work too, and I'm the same, "whatever". So, we just don't talk about our work to each other. We just say if we had a good day or a bad day, basically. Then we find other things to talk about. But when I get excited about something and need to talk to someone about it, i call my bestfriend. He totally understands. Maybe that's why he doesn't have a girlfriend. He keeps saying that he wants to find someone that is into Computers, a cool chick is what he says. heheQuote:
Originally posted by ammo
You know what sucks being a tech guy, at the end of the day (or anytime for that matter), no one wants to here about that program/bug you're working on or that that new firewall/ids box you've just set up is just so paranoid and you think it's cool...
Heck, I can't even talk (with my father who's in comps too) about it at the dinner table without getting "not that boring crap again" looks from my sisters and mother...
Anyways... just had to get that off my chest!
Ammo
But that sounds like the best advise, find an IT person and if you think that they are cool date them. Then you'll have someone to talk to.
I'm getting married this weekend to a girl I met online years ago. Even tho we both like computers, I still run into that problem where she's not interested when I start talking about them.
Hehe.. lets start "Geeks and Techies anonymous" ;)
Ammo
I've been a female for nearly 22 years... and I've loved every moment of it!!!!! Then again, why shouldn't I? My biggest problem in my last relationship was that my ex was and still is computer illiterate!!!!!! That is frustrating when you are afraid to talk over someone's head and that even if they act interested that they really just want you to shut up. I still keep in touch with two online chat buddies that I used to chat with in highschool over irc. Visited one of them twice and they came to visit me once. Still haven't met my other friend, but I've known both of them for nearly 6 years now.
i'm female.
i like 'geeky' guys......most geeky guys that i've met aren't superficial in the slightest....they check your brain, then they look for boobs.....and if you have both, bonus!
I'm a girl as well, and have enjoyed reading the posts on this thread. Hurrah!...agh... uh.. okay.
Most of you probably have already figured this out, but I think the reason there are few women in IT is that unless we have a role model (a male or female relative in IT) it is not normally a field which a lot of women naturally feel drawn to for various reasons.
In my own experience, computers (PCs) were not available to me until I was out of college. I didn't grow up learning how to build things and take them apart. Heck, my husband and father STILL insist on doing any upgrades on MY computers and they aren't exactly proficient at it either. No one took my interest in computers very seriously until I started creating applications and (hesitantly) showing them to consultants at work. Internet has been the most helpful source of help. I have been lucky to find a lot of people, mostly men, who encouraged my learning and pointed me to other resources. I think that is very cool.
Noo! You should've let the thread sink into obscurity... but NOOO... now they'll all be scared away by our confessions of geeky wishful thinking! Gender is (among others) *the* defining role online... the most basic fact we try to ascertain about others, more than age, profession, or race. It must be a 'gender roles' thing...
Anyone else read the Player vs Player 'geek dating service' storyline and how it went awry? :P
Hi!
Here's a funny experience I had when I was new in AO. I usually join the AO chatroom and had never told anyone that I was a girl. Thus, most of the guys had assumed that they were talking to a guy. Besides, when I was in the chatroom, no one asked me on gender stuff and I also don't talk about it either. No one new of my real gender and it remained that way for a month, but not for long. Two among the guys, I often talked with, decided to check my profile in the site. To their surprise, I turned out to be a girl. Both said this same line, "Oh you're a girl, thought I was talking to a guy all this time. " From then on, my real gender was revealed. I guess, the guys in the chatroom have assumed me for being a guy, way back then, because of my russian like name :D
Good day to all!
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"I expect to pass through life but once. If, therefore, there be any kindness I can show, or any good thing I can do for any fellow being, let me do it now… as I shall not pass this way again. " ~ William Penn
one of my programming classmate is a gurl. she told me she has an account here... logically there are gurls here! (LOL)
well i know some of us can get dates (at least i can...) but sometimes it's more fun to be friends with girls.... esp in a culture like hacking/security, where the world is mostly guys. nothing wrong with that.... just a change of pace is nice
I seen a girl once.
Girls? You mean there are actually girls in here? What was I thinking.
Seriously, I agree with Terr. What difference does it make? If someone knows what they are talking about, it will be obvious. It shouldn't matter if they are male, female, or a trained African Gray Parrot.
Maybe the next topic should be, how many girls have picts in there profile? That way we can be semi-sure of who we are talking to. Except we are not really"talkin" so maybe you can post your phone number and a brief description of the kind of geek you are interested in? Oh wait, this is Antionline, not match.com. Never mind.
As I've found out during my 14 years of computer experience (started when I was 12, now 26) is that the girls/women I've been able to talk to about computers/etc with had to fight rather hard to get where they are now. I know a girl who works at Electronics Boutique who's learned quite a bit about Windows from me and when she tries to solve someone's problem (generally a guy asking), she's told me some direct quotes like "Can I talk to someone who knows what they're talking about?" or "Isn't there a guy that works here who can help me out?". That kind of shite is for the birds, as beggars shouldn't be choosers when asking for help. I feel rather sorry for those that have to endure crap like that. On the flip side, I've seen women ask for help, and when they realize they've got a girl/woman to talk to that can help them out, they gravitate to them like nobody's business. What helps the situation is me directing people to her when they have questions, even though she may not know everything. Because she's been blown off so much, I have to push the issue sometimes. Effect: she learns more, feels better about it, and more people take her at face value, which while it's wrong that it had to be different than if they were dealing with me, is better than being blown off.
I personally would *LOVE* to have a woman in the same field as me (unix systems administrator for 6 years now), being on the same competitive edge, learning new stuff while working together because honestly, having worked for 2 major companies, I've seen the women that flaunt their looks for the position they're in. I have no respect at all for women that do that, nor for the men that fall for it. Having fought for every inch of the pay raise I get, I believe in the continuing education that people should go through to know more, instead of just looking good or who you know. As of yet, I've never met a woman who carries the same want to learn and will to keep up with me, as I do this 24x7x365, at work and at home.
Sorry for the long post, but there needs to be more women in the market. I see a lot of female DBAs for Oracle, Informix, etc...and quite a few with NT...just not in networking or unix or other platforms like that. Anyways, that's my rant...and for those that say 'understand my point of view when I say it sucks being gawked at all the time as a girl/etc', that sucks...but it's no worse than having absolutely no attention at all from the opposite sex. That was my case in HS and now, people find me no matter where I'm at...why? because I can help them print that 5 meg excel spreadsheet! Amazing...
*climbs off the soap box*
Hi there!
I also agree on this with Terr and Soule. I believe that everyone, regardless of gender-type and race as well, possesss a special talent/expertise or knowledge in a certain field. One's gender is not so important as long as he/she contributes to the best of his/her knowledge for the growth of others.Quote:
Seriously, I agree with Terr. What difference does it make? If someone knows what they are talking about, it will be obvious. It shouldn't matter if they are male, female, or a trained African Gray Parrot.
Have a nice day to all! :)
In my entire computerclass there is only 1 female. There where a few more but they all quit.
I must admit that I have found the perfect way to socail engineer information in irc. For some reason, it appears that everyone trusts the females in the ao irc channel. Like a female can't be a hacker or something. So....if you join the channel and claim to be female, you could probably learn a lot. Not sure if it works the same way in other channels or not, but atleast her....
Of COURSE women would do an outstanding job social engineering! heh heh...and it is not just because sometimes our technical expertise is not taken seriously. Guys think we are more likely to be friendly and non-threatening. Some guys...I won't mention names here...even tell us their most intimate details - you wouldn't believe it! ;-)
If I were single i would date you souleman...the more I talk to you, the more I like you!
As a *secretary* who had gained the confidence of the network engineer, upper management, other senior systems analysts:
I used to get administrator privileges on the server to grab data off of lazy sales peoples' computers to expedite marketing projects.
I had access to EVERY computer in the company, no questions asked, to load software, even take them off site for service, etc.
I had network passwords and administrator passwords to assist when the network admin was offsite.
They even sent an inexperienced network admin to my home to set up my home computers to dial in and access the company's network (almost every server nationwide).
Good thing I am a good girl.