stalking on public computers

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November 8th, 2001, 08:29 PM
durangowinter

stalking on public computers

I participated in a chat room with Vranesevich and he gave me
some very useful advice. However, the hackers that are tracking me to public computers are particularly destructive. They completely took over my e-mail address. It will be interesting to
see if they are able to block me from participating in this forum.

The way it works is they put a code into the computer and suddenly the computer is being operated off-line. How and why the hackers are doing this is still a mystery. It has to do with
a vendetta but why this particular kind of harrassement is still
not known. It does effect everyone who uses these computers
as usually one computer is shut-down. In this line of computers the usual sign is up that says a computer is temporarily out of service.

Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
November 8th, 2001, 08:40 PM
Evil Homer

ummm, I really can't make heads or tails of what your trying to say, but from what information I was able to get from your post it sounds like maybe you have a trojan.

Quote:

The way it works is they put a code into the computer and suddenly the computer is being operated off-line

Im not sure what you mean like this, but if it is a trojan, then someone could remotely shut down or disconnect your computer

Quote:

]They completely took over my e-mail address

this could also be accomplished using a keylogging function available on many trojans

I would advise getting a cleaner or virus scanner if you dont have one already - you can get a good cleaner at http://www.moosoft.com

I may be able to give better advice to you than this but you will have to be more clear in your post what your problem is.....like I said, I can't really figure out what your trying to ask
November 8th, 2001, 08:44 PM
Terr

Re: stalking on public computers

Quote:

Originally posted by durangowinter
The way it works is they put a code into the computer and suddenly the computer is being operated off-line.

Do you mean that it seems like someone is controlling your computer (besides you), yet you are not connected to the internet? Try physically disconnecting your modem/lan cable.

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How and why the hackers are doing this is still a mystery. It has to do with
a vendetta but why this particular kind of harrassement is still
not known. It does effect everyone who uses these computers
as usually one computer is shut-down. In this line of computers the usual sign is up that says a computer is temporarily out of service.

What? Let me get this straight... you have a bunch of public computers. (Like in a library) and one is usually off... What does this out-of-order computer have to do with everything? Where is this? Who are you?

Believe it or not, we (people on board) can't find out everything about you including your credit history, buying habits, and favorite kind of pokemon just from this post. :D
November 9th, 2001, 04:56 AM
Dome

Quote:

Believe it or not, we (people on board) can't find out everything about you including your credit history, buying habits, and favorite kind of pokemon just from this post.

i know everyones favorite kind of pkemon!!!!!

hehe just kidding! :)
November 9th, 2001, 12:24 PM
MrLinus

durangowinter,

Perhaps you could give us more details about the setup (Operating Systems used, AntiVirus software and date of last update, method of connection to the Internet).

Off-hand and based on the limited information that you have given us, I'd have to agree Evil Homer. Sounds like a trojan (most common ones include NetBus, SubSeven, BackOrifice.) And like what has been suggested before disconnect them.

In fact, a good course of action would be to download all your updates, disconnect the computers from the Internet, clean them of the trojans (assuming that is the culprit), install a good firewall (go to here for a discussion on firewalls http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=116174), and then connect them to the Internet.

And if, as Terr is attempting to acertain, you are in a public place, you need to be more viligant in your monitoring of your users and what they are putting on the computers. Ensure that the desktops are locked down and software cannot be installed without proper authorization. The discussion of DeepFreeze (http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=126451) indicates that its a pretty good program provided you do the desktop setup properly.

Hope this helps and please come back with more info.
November 9th, 2001, 04:21 PM
acfredricks

call a priest and get an exorcism
November 9th, 2001, 04:29 PM
coolnads

Go to the archives search for details on sub7,netbus and keyloggers....use the power of net to your benefit...and after that write a new post about your enlightment...give atleast an hour to yourself....happy hunting
November 9th, 2001, 04:49 PM
Pr3shuR

sphincter

Quote:

Originally posted by acfredricks
call a priest and get an exorcism

It's too late for that! Call a doctor and get an enima! I think that's the only way to save yourself. I just read about this the other day, it sounds like they've used on of these new "Anal Trojans" that are inserted in your sphincter and it allows them to track you on any computer you use. This explains how they have found you no matter where you are. Save yourself, for we all know who you are, where you live, and what you look like! BTW, nice shirt!

But if you don't want to get an enima, listen to ms mittens, she's got some good starting points..........................
l8r,
November 19th, 2001, 08:43 PM
durangowinter

I can see this is probably not the place to address this situation.
I will ad this comment - during the shut-down in SFO I happened to be there and the San Francisco chronicle had an article about using a dummy computer to control a group of computers - since this happens to me on a regular basis I
can usually spot a computer that is shut-down. It is actually very sophisticated - I believe the person in question is connected to a group called Happy Hackers and these people are for hire.
I have watched these guys - I think the code is a password that
as I said before transfers information off line.
November 19th, 2001, 09:50 PM
thor

You want to be a fiction writer or what:confused:
November 20th, 2001, 01:43 AM
blayde

YOU FIGURED ME OUT I AM THE HAPPY HACKERS AND MY DESTINY IS DESTROYING OFFLINE COMPUTERS BY USING TELEPATHIC PASSWORD CODES THAT MAKE COMPUTERS DISSAPEAR FROM THE LIBRARIES THAT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO:) :) :) :) :)
November 20th, 2001, 03:30 AM
thor

Why don't you just ask for ideas and I'm sure the twisted group her at AO will help you out, really I'm not kidding these folks know about computers and security. If what you say is really happening to you that's just too strange I talked to a guy yesterday who thinks Fox $ NBC got the race's (NASCAR) because (in his words) George Cleo Walker Bush owns Fox.....Do you want his number he also worked for the FBI who he says George Sr. ran besides the CIA...I'm not joking about this guy I think he's a nut' but being a manager I had too talk to him,it was fun....Good luck on the book what's it about.:hello:
November 20th, 2001, 12:12 PM
zion1459

i think u mean script kiddie/cracker... not hacker! i'm tired of seeing this... there's a hell of difference between the choice of words...

just wanted to post some ethics, without ethics the hacker community will fall apart... so plz help 2 stop people calling us criminals just because things like the media keep using the word hacker instead of cracker! whatever ppl read (most ppl i.e.) in the newspaper or hears on tv they believe... so if we are called criminals on public tv then we become criminals... once every1 thinks ur guilty it'll be impossible to proove ur innocent... plz don't let it go this far!
(i've often gotten into some heavy discussions just because i wear a 2600 t-shirt publicly.... that's sick... i have a right 2 wear whatever i want!)

this post doesn't really help u out with ur problem but it might educate u a bit.... it's an honest mistake 2 make, so don't take this personally.... PEACE! :)
November 20th, 2001, 03:01 PM
savnt

All I am gathering here is that there is or is not a group of giddy hackers who can somehow set up a computer, network it to a bunch of public computers, and leave it hidden long enough to grab info from the others.... and then the group gets the computer. Why would they stop there?!

They could hook it up to a cell phone and leave it permanently on the net with a remote program on it to play with.
November 23rd, 2001, 10:15 PM
durangowinter

Thank you happy hackers and those with the negative points. Since I am not able to access this site right away ( because of the problem I am discussing)there is no point in responding. However, ms.mittens seems to know alot about the subject. I will pass this information on to people in charge of these computers. I believe my problem points out the need for security on public computers. Most people do not know about trojans and locking down their desktops. Anyone using these computers are subject to having their e-mail addresses downloaded. Thank you for your intelligent response. I will give you more info. next time I am able to log on.
November 24th, 2001, 01:16 AM
Galdron

For Trojans

A good tester for Trojans can be found at wilders.org, Its called TDS3, and works quite well all though its only a trial version. Dont forget to download the activation key.
November 24th, 2001, 02:50 AM
-=solarismka=-

Here here!!!!!!!!! I agree totaly script kiddies arn't hackers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

:cool:
November 24th, 2001, 03:07 AM
firefemme

why don't you go to a different place [other than the library], get online, and open a new e-mail account?

[you could then encrypt the emails you send with your new account.....etc.]
December 5th, 2001, 08:31 PM
durangowinter

more info.

In my original post I focused on "dummy computers". I have been researching the subject (using past comments as part of my search). I found alot of information on www.w3or/security/faq/wwwsfl.html. The interference that I have been reporting directly effects any server where I have e-mail addresses. One member suggested that I get an encrypted e-mail address - good idea except for the fact that the web servers are part of the problem. I actually have remote users viewing everything I do on the computer. They can actually execute commands that shut me down or transfer me to another site. Since they are into the library system (now in the Boulder/Denver area for 3 weeks)which is more protected than your home computer this is being done by professionals. I have learned that eavesdroppers can operate from any point on the pathway between browser and server. I have seen some of the damage done to computers where I try and use a computer - browsers are crashing and there is real damage to the library's system - on a personal note all of my private information has been stolen. I have lost all of my mail on 2 address on hotmail,
uswestmail, altavista and the latest on antionline. I cannot access AT&T to monitor the data base on my phone. Challenging!
December 6th, 2001, 12:28 AM
Vorlin

Quote:

Originally posted by Dome

i know everyones favorite kind of pkemon!!!!!

hehe just kidding! :)

Yeah! A dead one!
December 6th, 2001, 07:35 AM
Tedob1

your computer is so compromised the only thing you can do is re-format, re-install and don't come back on line til you install a good firewall. if you dont want to do that then let me have your ip address.