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November 28th, 2001, 01:39 AM
Kezil

Linux

I have two questions about Redhat Linux 7.1:

1. What would you suggest for the levels of install? i.e., what would be a good minimum install, medium install, newbie install, etc. (feel free to make up any type you wish, I'm interested in all)

2. What would be the system requirements for the install?

Thanks for all.
November 28th, 2001, 01:54 AM
MrLinus

Ive installed RH 7.1 on a Pentium 100 with 64MB and used about 675MB of space. I've had students install 7.0 on a 486 with 8MB of RAM and I think a 500MB HD.

As for what you install, that depends on what you want to do with it. What do you want to do with the box?

Hope this helps.
November 28th, 2001, 01:58 AM
IchNiSan

hmm,

If you are new to linux, and just want to explore. With as many options as possible. I would do a custom install, and select the INSTALL EVERYTHING box when it asks you about packages. This will take up (accross all partitions, and I am guessing from my memory of the times I did it) a bit less than 3 gigs. most of this in your /usr directory, so make sure that that partition is pretty big.

Having said that, I am about at the point of wiping my machine, performing a bare bones install, with X and a browser, the kernel and regular development tools. Once I have that system up, I will install the latest versions from the web of only the packages that I need/want as I go.

Not sure if this is a good idea or not, but... I think I am going to do it, as I have no idea what half of the apps on my machine are, and certainly never use them.

Good luck, and have fun.

Some good resources are at..

www.linuxnewbie.org

Also check out MsMittens Tut in the Tutorial forum on installing linux.

IchNiSan
November 28th, 2001, 02:00 AM
Kezil

Use

As in the main, I'm interested in about any use you can come up with, but mostly, since this will be the first time I've used Linux, a newbie install, and an install for an advanced user for when I become capable at it.
November 28th, 2001, 03:13 AM
psi0nic

One way to go about it (certainly not the best or only way) is to pick one of the default spiffy installs like workstation or something. This will get you just about all the stuff you need to do whatever you do in windows. One of the things about Linux apps is that in many cases there are like 12 or more things that do the same thing ( and all 12 may come with your Distro) this is where some real experimentation comes into play.

I think after using Linux for about a year you will be able to chuck an install disk into your drive and know exactly what you want/need and what you don't. This is such a personal choice, so have fun and read the docs on your apps so you understand *what* they can do.

example: vi or Emacs? this qustion is like Pepsi or Coke in the *nix world and you won't really know until you learn how to use both.

have fun, need any help just ask

P.S. I am a vi man myself
November 28th, 2001, 03:29 AM
Kezil

Addition:

Additional question:

what are the different GUIs (mainly the one(s) that come with redhat, but others also) and Good points/Bad points of each?
November 28th, 2001, 04:13 AM
psi0nic

The big 3 are KDE, GNOME, and FVWM.

KDE and GNOME seems to be the ones that most people really like. It may even be a good idea to install both and try them out. The reasons people like each one are usually pretty specific so it would not be fair for me to comment on strengths and weaknesses of each.

FVWM is not generaly one that many people like.
November 29th, 2001, 11:43 PM
outforjustix

LINUX OS

I have had two ver. of suse running on redhat at the same time:)

My maths teacher helped, along also a Cambridge Maths teacher.
November 30th, 2001, 12:15 AM
petemcevoy

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I have had two ver. of suse running on redhat at the same time

When you say "running on red hat" - what exactly do you mean?

Quote:

The big 3 are KDE, GNOME, and FVWM.

I was under the impression that gnome wasn't really a window manager, moreover a framework that holds everything together, and you use different windowmanagers, like sawmill, enlightenment, icewm on top of gnome (or on top of the kde base for that matter) - is this not the case?
November 30th, 2001, 01:19 AM
s0nIc

K-D-E! K-D-E!!! K-D-E!!!

use KDE!!!

hahaha
November 30th, 2001, 01:57 AM
gaxprels

Gnome and KDE are Desktop Managers. They require a Window Manager to display windows. Window Managers do not require a Desktop Manager to run, however. If you want to run a Window Manager by itself,. I suggest IceWM (as it has the ability to look like a Desktop Manger), Sawfish, or Enlightenment. WindowMaker is pretty good, too. Desktop Managers... I prefer Gnome over KDE, but it's really a matter of preference. If you choose Gnome, use Sawfish instead of Enlightenment. It was designed with Gnome integration in mind. Hope this helps.

Happy Hacking
November 30th, 2001, 02:15 AM
Kezil

vs.

What the difference between a desktop manager and a window manager?

Thanks, and keep the replies coming!
November 30th, 2001, 03:50 AM
psi0nic

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The big 3 are KDE, GNOME, and FVWM.
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I was under the impression that gnome wasn't really a window manager, moreover a framework that holds everything together, and you use different windowmanagers, like sawmill, enlightenment, icewm on top of gnome (or on top of the kde base for that matter) - is this not the case? //

I think Kezil was simplly asking which are the most common GUI desktop environments found in the typical Linux Distro. Which would probably be KDE, GNOME, and FVWM.

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Additional question:
what are the different GUIs (mainly the one(s) that come with redhat, but others also) and Good points/Bad points of each?
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The big 3 are KDE, GNOME, and FVWM.
KDE and GNOME seems to be the ones that most people really like. It may even be a good idea to install both and try them out. The reasons people like each one are usually pretty specific so it would not be fair for me to comment on strengths and weaknesses of each.

FVWM is not generaly one that many people like.
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Does it say `Window Manager' anywhere in either of those posts?

I agree that GNOME is not a Window Manager, but then again I never claimed that it was. I would appreciate it if you take a little more care to read what was said before commenting on another of my posts.