Anti Mailing List Issue #1

This is the first edition that I've written. I'm not even sure if it's the first actual AO mailing list and I'm sure it's not but it's the first one I've conducted with the help of other security companies and induviduals. I've recently made a departure from AO and made quite a fool of my self but none the less, I decided to come back to the discussion board. You knoe i luv u guyz. ;)
Especially Negative and Conf1rmedK1ll. Negative is the one that inspired me to write this post and provide this newsletter. Conf1rmedK1ll made me realise that it would be foolish to only take part in one security discussion group.
I've attached the newsletter to this post. But here's what is discussed in this issue.

Intro
Ports, scaning, detection, and techniques
Building a Security Toolkit
Social Engineering
Hacking
Exploits
Conclusion

Remote_Access_

how can you make an antionline news letter when you are not affiliated with antionline.

:sigh:

Like I said in the newsletter, if you don't like it, then don't read it. write your own newsletter... and further more, it's none of your concern. Like negative said, everyone is entitled to a second chance. If you would like to help write the second editon, feel free to contribute to it.

Remote_Access_

Nice work! I didn't have time to read it all, but I saved it for later. Can't wait for part two. :)

Nice work!!

Keep at it, this kind of thing could be very useful to newcomers to computer security!

I await issue 2 as eagerly as a child awaits Christmas Day!!!!

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(Except Ennis and hebris. Screw you guys.)

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Who the hell are you again, oh that foolish kiddie who prefers NewOrder comes crwling back with a newsletter and tell's me to screw myself. Tut, tut in fact I was happy to see you changed, you are posting some real info then I come here to see you *cough* flame me.

Dont start making grudges remote because I never forget my enemies.

I forget my enemies all the time.. nothing is more insulting to them.. I mean, they matter so little to me that I didn't even bother remembering them.... :D

You ignorant f**k.

Who the hell do you think you are, seriously, who?
I'm sick of this crap, every day, flaming, bitchin, moanin, back-stabbing, this isnt real, its a virtual world, we can't see each other, we cant fight, we dont work together, we flame those who come before looking for help, everyone who was here when I joined is gone except for Negative and MsMittens, perhaps more I dont remember, even rioter is gone!

Jesus whats the point, shouldnt let you effect me but I do, you get to me fair play, you happy, here become King of Antionline you vain bitch, its what you want, reply to this, flame me, cut me up I dont care, just do me one favour, after this post pretend I dont exist, Ennis is dead, gone out of the whole system.

Dont speak, remember, wonder or anything, dead in your mind, ok thats all I ask.

To all those I respect Im sorry for backing out but Ive had one too many attacks from these kinda people and its gone to far.
You know who you are.

One more thing I made the AO newsletter No. 2
its attached, I want you to have a look Remote_Access_ its made especially for you.

Either way Ill be watching you, you wont know its me RA but I will and I will end you, simply end you..


Issues
Antionline is supposed to be a security site, yes but we can have other posts, General Chit Chat is allowed to be about anything so people please stop the flaming.

Let the hotmail questions drop instead of replying with flames and keeping the thread afloat.

Ah, that's all.



FAREWELL ANTIONLINE! ;) ;) ;) ;)


Terr
MsMittens
stflook
Negative
petemcevoy
Simon Templer
freeOn
Matty Cross
Rewandythal
ThePreacher
evilseed
Victor Kaum
Focmaester
RogueSpy
Conf1rm3d_K1ll
Casper3699
DjM

Anyone else I forgot.

What is the reason that you use me thus?
I loved you ever

Ennis.

here have a piece of pity pie loser

The newsletter....

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Originally posted by Remote_Access_
This is the first edition that I've written. I'm not even sure if it's the first actual AO mailing list and I'm sure it's not but it's the first one I've conducted with the help of other security companies and induviduals. I've recently made a departure from AO and made quite a fool of my self but none the less, I decided to come back to the discussion board. You knoe i luv u guyz.

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Cut-N-Paste.. I can call you Cut-N-Paste can't I??
I supported the idea of a mailing list/newsletter.. I believe it would be a valuable addition to the site.. Now, I briefly read over your newsletter, and one thing struck me... Have you ever heard of formatting??? Y'know, page breaks, table of contents.. all those kinda things which make it easier to read and find the information your after...

Now, I understand that you were trying to be helpful.. But you have really gone at it the wrong way... Rather than Cut-N-Pasting whole slabs of information, you really should write a brief intro, and then provide a link to the page your grabbing the information from... that way, your making it easy to read, and also not depriving other sites of their deserved traffic by stealing their work...

And admitting that you copied the sections from SANS, doesn't make it ok... Did you actually ask SANS if you could use the text you borrowed?? Did you check that you weren't violating any copyrights?? I mean, your posting it stating that its AO's Newsletter... if you haven't checked this, and have violated copyright, you could get AO into trouble...

Also, did you get JP's permission before writing this? In general, people/organisations do not like it when you write something under their guise, without their permission.. it can get them into a lot of trouble, and facilitate a lot of false images....

I'd be more than happy to help with further newsletters, providing that these issues and certain others are resolved...

I thought that the info posted was probably useful to those who have limited experience of this. But the final comments were well out of order - why resort to 4 letter words when a reasoned argument would be better?

I think that Ennis reached a frustration point. As you noticed from Ennis' information he has been through many threads and has posted many replies. Perhaps what we need is a tutorial on how to ask questions or get input from others.

Thing like be clear in what you are asking; explain as much detail as possible; read first before asking (perhaps that should be first). If you do get flamed or get 4-letter words thrown at you, step back for a few minutes, hours, days and then come back. Reponding that way only brings you down to the level of the hurler. Concise, direct arguments or statements have a lot more power (as does humour when spun by Negative) than a stream of obscenities and non-sensical threats.

Not everything on this board needs to be a flame war. There is a lot of potential here that could help but many of the posts that ask valid questions or present interesting security/hacking ideas are being lost in the "clutter" of garbage.

Just some thoughts.

Agreed!

Arguing in 4 letter words never got anyone anywhere. An argument is only wortkwhile if both sides come out of it with the correct information... and a load of obscenities doesn't help that!!!

I looked at this guys past posts, Remote_Access_ that is and realised everything he posts is copy and pasted.

He is egotistical as Im sure you all notice and well when he lowers himeslef to sayin F!!k you then I can no longer read any of his non-sensical crap, who is this guy and why does he get away with so much.

I cant take him serious, I see someone did and actually left at what must have been a long time.

Anyway Elisnore awaits.

Remote_Access_ is the Claudius of this world.

:Sigh: Well my intentions were'nt to make Ennis so frustrated that he leaves the AO community. I do appologize. After reading what I wrote... I think I can safely say that I was "out of line" by makeing that last statement. I knoe that Ennis and I have had harsh werds in the past but my intentions weren't intended to make this valued Icon of the AO community leave. And Mr. Hamlet, it's a pleasure to meat you... yeah right. I'm not here to take this post, these forms, and this site seriously. Lighten up. Take a 40 oz. go sit on the couch, watch South Park, and chill out.
Rewandythal said it best. "Arguing in 4 letter words never got anyone anywhere. An argument is only wortkwhile if both sides come out of it with the correct information... and a load of obscenities doesn't help that!!!".... I also agree. Geez, i really knoe how to stick my foot in my mouth don't i ? Any who, the next issue will be more formal. I will ask the author's permission before useing their information and again, feel free to contribute to this on growing "newsletter"... if all you can do is bitch about it, write your own "tut", newsletter, or whatever. BTW, what topics would everyone like to see included in the next issue?

Remote_Access_

Tut, tut Remote_Access so vain...

Write my own newsletter, you didnt you copy and pasted yours.

You are foolish and childish.

How are you still here, I thought we were all script kiddies, go join your hax0r friends at New Order why dont you.

Opinion of you on IRC are low, I suggest you stop thinkin otherwise you pitiful joke.

Tut, tut Remote_Access so vain...
Big deal, ***** off

Write my own newsletter,
Yes, thats right, write your own. CONTRIBUTE instead of bitching, crying, and complaining.

you didnt you copy and pasted yours.
Sp - Sp- Sp- Spit it out junior. Did you even read the article?

You are foolish and childish.
Lighten up. Take a 40 oz. go sit on the corner, smoke a "L", and chill out.



How are you still here,
how do you think you ignorant @$$

I thought we were all script kiddies
we all WERE at one point in time. Obviously you're still there...

go join your hax0r friends at New Order why dont you.
I will later. I'm usually there reading more intlligent post.

Opinion of you on IRC are low,
Well, its a matter of O P I N I O N and that matters not

I suggest you stop thinkin
I suggest you START thinking you pitiful joke.

Remote_Access_

Youre not exactly a master flamer are you Remote?

Cant you quote?

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you didnt you copy and pasted yours.
Sp - Sp- Sp- Spit it out junior. Did you even read the article?

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I sure did, fair play to the people that wrote it.

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You are foolish and childish.
Lighten up. Take a 40 oz. go sit on the corner, smoke a "L", and chill out.

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Lets hope cannabis induced psychosis takes hold of you.

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How are you still here,
how do you think you ignorant @$$

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Did you learn that in flame school.

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I thought we were all script kiddies
we all WERE at one point in time. Obviously you're still there...

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Do you understand what a script kiddie is, do you cause destruction using programs you didnt create? I didnt, anyone else here at AntiOnline, oh wait AO isnt a kiddie cracker site like New Order, wake up you insipid joke, you smell of treachery.

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go join your hax0r friends at New Order why dont you.
I will later. I'm usually there reading more intlligent post.

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Shouldnt you learn to spell first, by the way its posts not post, intelligent reading, lol!

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I suggest you stop thinkin
I suggest you START thinking you pitiful joke.

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Negative if you ever write your book on flaming please give this fool a free copy.




:D

I love people that throw around the word "ignorance". If anything Remote Access, you are the ignorant one for your vapid brain's usage of the word ignorant. After that whole long speech of yours, you turn around and do the same thing all over again! HYPOCRISY ALERT. You are telling others to 'chill out' and then you retort with the same consistant banter. How can you possibly claim us all to have been 'script kiddies' at one point or another? Has it dawned on you that maybe some have had legitimate interest in computers right from day 1? And to tell Noble Hamlet to 'start thinking' when clearly he has presented a well thought out argument. What the hell is an L? The 40oz idea however is a good one, maybe in a drunken state, Noble Hamlet will be able to interact at your level.

I love it how people argue about flaming by flaming someone.

Person A > how do I xxx

Person B > your stupid Person A

Person C > no, your stupid Person B

Person B > I am not stuid, you are because you flamed me person C

Person A > Don't flame me, you suck Person B


Person D > Why not just stop posting to this topic and let it drop, although I am going to post her to say stop posting.

Person E > Nice post person A

Person C > Person A sucks, but I don't really know why.

etc. etc. etc.


I have noticed this in just about every thread that I have actually taken the time to read, not that I have actually read that many. But hey, I suck because I only have a 56k modem and I am a lamer and whatever else. Figured I would say it before someone else did.

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Originally posted by oblio
HYPOCRISY ALERT.

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Agreed!

Ouroboros

Its easy to observe everyone else's mistakes isn't it? I'm sure if i had the time and patience to review over all of your post and comments, you would look even more of a fool than i when i wrote that stupid comment at the end of the newsletter. and further more, i'd like to discuss mr.oblio .... wait, no i don't. Do you know why? Cuz i 'm going to let this go and drop it.

Remote_Access_

Again, can't we all just get along.:D :D BTW is Ennis back yet???

I haven't recieved a responce from a majority of the AO community, for a number of reasons, but I am still courious as to what everyone would like to see included in the next issue.

I think that the entire AO community has contributed something important, resourceful, or informative... Therefore i intend to use, with the conscent/authority of the rightful author(s), information that has been previously posted on various subjects. I will even write about a few things that I m a y be able contribute to the AO community...

But what is there to say that hasn't already been said???
E V E R Y question someone has asked has already been answered or asked in a previous post or in a tutorial, article, newsletter, or some other source of information...

So is there any thing truely original left to post? Of course there is. Write about personal experience. The best experience you can gain is from "Trial and Error." Also known as, "Hands on experience."

Not everyone has read everything or experienced it all. Everyone must have a question about something, even if it's not security or computer related. (That's why there is the general chat forms.)

For those that do know everything (or at least think they do), you are an inspiration. I would enjoy being a teacher/mentor... But there's a slight problem. In order to teach something, you have to know what you are teaching. Through and through, balls to the wall.
Why? How? Where? What? What if...? etc.

Because of those very questions right there. There will always be that individual out there that either dosen't know or yearns to know the answer. A seeker of knowledge. The true source of intelligent life on this planet... A young hacker thirsting for knowledge and fueled by those questions, eagerly awaiting for a responce, the answer, the truth. What lies behind the mystery? What is the answer? How do I...? How did you...? Where is...? Is it possable to...? What are...?

There aren't stupid questions, but there are stupid people.

Remote_Access_

What the hell happened here?

Is this what AO has turned into in the couple of weeks that I have been busy? Flamers, people who steal from others, and other assorted ugly behavior?

#include <clue.h>

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Its easy to observe everyone else's mistakes isn't it? I'm sure if i had the time and patience to review over all of your post and comments, you would look even more of a fool than i when i wrote that stupid comment at the end of the newsletter. and further more, i'd like to discuss mr.oblio .... wait, no i don't. Do you know why? Cuz i 'm going to let this go and drop it.

Remote_Access_

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Let it go then , you obviously learned you are not the God you believe you are, I hope you learn from this that youre childish flame of Ennis gained you no respect and in the ned you now look like more of a fool than ever before as hard as that is.

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I haven't recieved a responce from a majority of the AO community, for a number of reasons, but I am still courious as to what everyone would like to see included in the next issue

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You get no response because they dont like you, simple as that. Next time instead of 'copying' a newsletter simply send them a link, its easier than putting no effort in and trying to look good only for everyone to realise you are a shambolic imbecil.

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I think that the entire AO community has contributed something important, resourceful, or informative... Therefore i intend to use, with the conscent/authority of the rightful author(s), information that has been previously posted on various subjects. I will even write about a few things that I m a y be able contribute to the AO community...

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The pathehic suck-up, hypocrite, how can we contribute when we are script kiddies?

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Not everyone has read everything or experienced it all. Everyone must have a question about something, even if it's not security or computer related. (That's why there is the general chat forms.)

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In other posts you complain about The General Chit Chat forum saying its not security related noe you say its needed.

Please cope the hell on, you will always be caught out Claudius, this is yet another tradegy for the Noble Hamlet, Prince of Denmark.

Ps your antipoints are sad, please everyone view R_A_'s intelligence when nobody's lookin, AP comments/

******* ****head --remote_access

He's obviously some kind of genius.

P.s. I have many AP from people so if youre trying to get mine down, keep trying you could be here for a while.

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Originally posted by thor
Again, can't we all just get along.:D :D BTW is Ennis back yet???

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Yeah sure when I realised I have some good people here I like I thought I couldnt go, not when the place needs someone to keep this place from turning into flame war haven.

End the flame wars! ;)

Hello again Ennis. Nice to see you're back. I also have
"Turned a new leaf" and decided that the flame wars should stop. Every post that Mr. Hamlet has posted has been nothing but complaints. Here is an example of his quick wit and and a part of this "intellictual conversation"...

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******* ****head --remote_access

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*cough cough*

Any how, Welcome back Ennis :D

Remote_Access_

Remote_Access_ it's all water under the bridge now man!

;)