Antipoint... REPLY TO COMMENT.

I think it would be a very useful feature of the reciever of an antipoint could send a reply to the person who assigned the antipoint (if the antipoint is in your most-recent list).

The person recieving the antipoint would have no way of knowing who they are sending their reply to, unless the antipoint-giver replies back via PM. I know that several times I've wanted to let the assigner know that I was just quoting someone, or wasn't trying to say whatever they were pissed about.

Please DO NOT speak about making anything else mandatory for Antipoints or changing the system in other ways within this thread, please. Most ideas for 'reforming' the AP system have been beaten to death... (Well, I don't think my idea here is beaten to death, but if it is, I apologize.)

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Darn, shoulda made it a poll. Nah, doesn't matter.

Read your post with that suggestion in it last night.. and I did remark to negative that it was a brilliant idea...

my opinion of it hasn't changed.....
Although there would have to be some good filters on it, so using the case your stated in your previous post, if I gave you neg points for saying F!!k, then you could just reply to the AntiPoints telling me off...

I like your idea, Terr, but I am wary about the opportunity to reply back and forth generating more animosity and possibly unwarranted flames directed at either of the two people involved. In a perfect world, one would read the AntiPoint comment, reply to correct the misuderstanding, etc, and the AntiPoint giver would say, "Okay". I doubt that would really happen, given the nature of things.

Just my opinion, but a fundamentally good idea is generally corrupted by the chaos of human thoughts/emotions.
Which, coincidentally, brings us full circle on the whole issue;)

Ouroboros

I was thinking that the antipoint reciever could only use the 'rebound comment' maybe once or twice (for second-thoughts) for any specific antipoint assignement. I figure if the AP assigner doesn't want to reply, they don't have to, and the asignee never knows who sent the AP to them, so tit-for-tat is averted, since the identity of the AP giver is not disclosed.

I guess the idea is that the giver still has the option of remaining anonymous, and the reciever can send a quick message back. Again, I think the key is that the assigner's identify can be concealed if they choose. So dedicated (I.E.: Between two specific people who know each other's identities) flaming is not possible without both sides starting it.

i like this idea.... the only problem is the thousands of people who refuse to comment when they give/take points. this leaves me with no understanding of why i was gifted/brow beatenmakes me all sorts of confused ;)

Terr,
You know you have my support on this..:cool:

edit: Also it would be nice to have a back button on the bottom of the page..

Good idea and bad idea. I have mixed feelings on it, but if JP chose to do it you wouldn't hear me complaining about it.

i really wish we had this reply feature now.... i just got negative points for a post in which the person's comments were a copy and paste of someone else's post. not only that... but it was not something that even disagreed with me. lol. on top of that, it was not the person whose post it was copied from, cause the person (whose post it was copied from) had just given me positive points on the same post.

I think this is a really good idea, if you limit the number of replys. I could just see all of JP's bandwidth and storage being taken up but a few groups of people that just keep going back and forth.

The one problem that I see, is what good is it going to do. If I give someone negative antipoints and actually do post a comment, what are the chances that I actually care what you say in your reply to my antipoints. Especailly with some of the comments that I have seen.

It would be a good idea, if people actually used it properly, but I am personally afraid that it will become nothing more for a person to return a flame to an anomonious user that flamed them in the first place.

BTW: I have never givin any antipoints, and I don't really worry about the points that I have/don't have, so I guess maybe there is more worth to it then I can see.

I like it Terr but as you know Its up to JP, lets just sit back and see what he says.

Now if the RECIEVER could specify, in their response, to not allow a response to their response (i.e. "close the thread"), then the hidden flame wars would become moot....and if it turns to a logical discussion, the RECIEVER could opt for the hidden "thread" to continue.(or you could just PM each other). After thinking over it again, it's a very plausible idea, given the proper guidelines.

Ouroboros

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Originally posted by thor
Terr,
You know you have my support on this..:cool:

edit: Also it would be nice to have a back button on the bottom of the page..

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Sorry all I ment a home button not back it was late and too many:drink:

Thank's thor:)

I like this idea. Gets my vote hands down. Earlier today I got negative antipoints, quote "I don´t like yer avatar, makes me wanna punch yer ****ing mouth loose". Nice constructive use of antipoints :) (If you gave me the antipoints, and are reading this, s'ok I forgive you, you got 'issues' see a therapist).

:D

I think it's a good idea except for the fact that there is a reason why some people accumulate large amounts of negative points. Negative antipoints aren't the best way to constructivly critisize someone. Let's say I negatively antipoint someone because they are being abusive.

reply* Get F***** F**

Doesn't really help.

I think it would be a great idea to have a reply to feature. I think you should only be able to reply once though, and the anti-point giver shouldn't be able to reply back unless it is by PM.

When I post news I keep getting this idiot who gives me anti-points saying something along the lines of "put your thoughts a monkey can copy and paste news". What the guy doesn't realize is usually after I post the news articles I go back and reply with my thoughts. The article he gave me anti-points on all he had to do was scroll down 1 reply, and my thoughts were there. Another thing he many not realize is I am at work and just may not have an hour to kill going back and putting my thoughts on all of them. For crying out loud, I am posting news, don't give me anti-points if it doesn't meet your criteria.

Hopefully he reads that, but if not I hope we get the reply to feature so he will. :)

Hello Terr!

Good day to you! Nice site proposal there! That proposed function of yours can serve important purposes:

1) If a person receives a bad comment and negative points. He/she has the chance to explain further or justify her post/reaction on the thread to the giver of the negative point his/her side.

2) If a person receives +points, specially if it's from someone anonymous. The receiver of the +point will have the chance to say "Thanks."

However, when the giver of the negative antipoints has made some nasty comments. Specially, if the remarks made was not within the scope of the issue/topic(s) posted on the board. The possible result: The negative antipoint receiver responds back to the giver in a hostile approach. Thereby, an unending bickering between the two parties may take place.

Definitely it is a good idean. Keep-up the good work!!!

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a reply-to-comment would be nice....

I think it would be a good idea to have a reply-to feature.

So what makes this so different from what I suggested?

And you shat all over that.

I won't even go into the comments I've recieved just recently, but lets just say I'm getting followed around by someone who loves CP FW-1 and doesn't like the fact I don't use it or like it.........

Anyway. Antipoints don't mean crap cause the system is so badly abused.

it is being abused... i get neg points for replying to peoples posts on a thread that i started

Better off not to continue the chat with someone that gave you the anti as nothing good can come of it anywho. Its almost like a mirc channel with all Ops a good formula for a meltdown.

The idea behind this - as I see it - is as a deterant to people giving you negative antipoints for stupid reasons, so you can see who is doing so. Lets say 'fred' gives out lots of negative points for stupid reasons, then maybe something could be done about it. I think it will be a good addition to AO.


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Originally posted by KorpDeath
So what makes this so different from what I suggested?

And you shat all over that.

I won't even go into the comments I've recieved just recently, but lets just say I'm getting followed around by someone who loves CP FW-1 and doesn't like the fact I don't use it or like it.........

Anyway. Antipoints don't mean crap cause the system is so badly abused.

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I'm sorry I gave that impression :( , I was referring to 3aDmOnKeY's post on the handle-appending (and partially to Antihaxor's comment-required post). I fully agree with your original post, and apologize for further derailing your thread.

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Originally posted by the_g_nee
The idea behind this - as I see it - is as a deterant to people giving you negative antipoints for stupid reasons, so you can see who is doing so. Lets say 'fred' gives out lots of negative points for stupid reasons, then maybe something could be done about it. I think it will be a good addition to AO.

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I don't think that's what I (or Korp) meant. The point is you still *can't* see who is doing so, but it makes the possibility of a dialog while minimizing the possibility of major antipoint-wars.

Just what I meant. No harm, no foul, Terr.

I just thought "Wow! that looks familiar" and then I thought "Wasn't it Terr that said No."

Great idea Terr, and of course, you have me behind you 101%. But, I can almost put money down, that a new concept will errupt: AntiPoint Flaming. This will only lead to more arrogance and hate for one another. Yet, two intelectually 'advanced' [to the common member] could make something of it and start a private forum if further discussion is needed. And I'm sure there will be times when it will. Yet I hope this will not sooner-or-later evolove into where the giver's handle is givin while AntiPoints are being sent. That must be the line. I agree, it is 'nice' to know who gave you those positive with that rad comment, but honestly...
Yet, some ignorant, unneccissary flames will come up (as I mentioned). This is my main concern. Because I'll know I'll be in the midst of at least one. And while I do enjoy them (the educated flameing...the constructive flaming (criticsm)...that I love), I don't think that will happen any time soon with the new system.
Resistance if futile for those who oppose this idea, though, I beleive. I am certain this will go through. And I wish it the best of luck.

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I don't think that's what I (or Korp) meant. The point is you still *can't* see who is doing so, but it makes the possibility of a dialog while minimizing the possibility of major antipoint-wars.

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If someone is making negative comments about you, then I think to know who is doing so would be of benefit. Not because of giving negative points back, but from the view that it might stop getting negative antipoints in the first place for meaningless things. If someone does not like what your saying its their right to say 'no your wrong', but to do so in anonymity leads to petty antipoint use. But if the sender of antipoints knew that their name would be added, then giving antipoints for pointless reasons might decease.

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I couldn't agree more that minimally the name of the person leaving the antipoint needs to be listed. I've already recieved my first neg and I have no clue why. My best guess is they didn't like my trying to dechipher what the original poster meant. Who knows? But how can I correct myself if I have no idea what irritated the person bad enough to leave me a negative antipoint?
Argh..

So?

*smiles*i like this idea of begin able to reply to antipoints would be nice to be able to post thanks or ask about comments for greater expansion on them. Hope jp considers this though i can see that it could get abused but then it could have great gains as well.

Kindred69

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My best guess is they didn't like my trying to dechipher what the original poster meant.

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i have to agree with that... it seems that we cant ask questions to posters without being told were posting nonsense

Greetings All:

Well, thanks to Terr for this suggestion. It took me a long time to get it up and running, but:

here it is!

enjoy! thread closed!