Someone explain something to me...

Ok, I've been on this board for a little under three weeks and I've noticed something. There seems to be a lot of jabs, underhanded attacks, open flaming, and whatnot being spewed forth onto the message boards. Message boards that I come to every day (I work the 7 to 4 shift at work) to try to help people out with anything I can, ask questions, be around peers, and generally have a good time. For the most part, I've had that but after reading a LOT of flaming posts of outright attacks from one poster to another, I'm seriously wondering why this has to happen. You want real problems? Get laid off like I did on Oct 4 and try to find a job as a unix admin in this economy. That's something to worry about, not some useless drivel that someone might call an insult. Others I worked with got let go the same day and they've got families, bills, etc... I feel for them as I'm working now while some are still looking. You want real problems? Look at the victims of everything current from 6 months ago onward. That's real problems. Look at those who have family serving in the military overseas during *CHRISTMAS* in a war-torn environment. And some of you have grudges? **** that noise, get over it...if we can't all work together on making AO a great place to interact with peers, then I guess I should pack up and leave because God alone knows I'm not going to stick around and listen to this high-school bullshit that some people flaunt. Have you (any of the flagrant flaming posters) ever considered what a know-nothing newbie might think because if I (and I consider myself more than a little knowledgeable when dealing with computers) get irritated after reading so many of these every day, how do you think they'd feel after reading *1*? Gah,
I'm not very happy now so I'm gonna go delete someone's user directory or something...

Let the madness stop!

In other words!

End this damn Flaming! ;)

My sentiments exactly. . . You hit the nail on the head. ; )

Ennis, I believe I see a pattern forming here, you are a man on a mission!

I am on a mission, hopefully it will work and Antionline will return to it's former self! ;)

I really hope ur right Ennis. . . I really hope ur right. Get things back to normal.

Whilst i may be in no postion to comment with my earlier diatribe, (in my defence i don't flame needlessly all the time) but i'd have to say i'm almost as sick of the whining as i am of the flaming - its a public forum, post what you like and if you don't like what somebody said, post a reply or say nothing - all this "i'm sorry to say i'll be leaving AO" (not directed at anyone in particular) is pointless, it makes you sound like a rejected lover. Flaming is a necessary part of any fora, its been this way for a long time, and i can't see it changing anytime soon - not that i'd want it too, its hard to beat a good flame.
Before anyone tells me, i realise the hypocrisy in me whining about other people whining - i just don't care.

Ennis - i like you, you're a friendly, smart young fella - that sig sucks tho.

i'm joining you Ennis. time to stop the flaming, go somewhere else to ridicule people!:o

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Originally posted by petemcevoy
Whilst i may be in no postion to comment with my earlier diatribe, (in my defence i don't flame needlessly all the time) but i'd have to say i'm almost as sick of the whining as i am of the flaming - its a public forum, post what you like and if you don't like what somebody said, post a reply or say nothing - all this "i'm sorry to say i'll be leaving AO" (not directed at anyone in particular) is pointless, it makes you sound like a rejected lover. Flaming is a necessary part of any fora, its been this way for a long time, and i can't see it changing anytime soon - not that i'd want it too, its hard to beat a good flame.
Before anyone tells me, i realise the hypocrisy in me whining about other people whining - i just don't care.

Ennis - i like you, you're a friendly, smart young fella - that sig sucks tho.

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Ok, pete Its more than obvious the post is directed at me, no need to say otherwise.
Maybe my sig sucks, maybe my new hippie like attitude is not really me but Im trying to contribute in two ways these days

1) Keep the tutorials and help coming which I will

2) Trying to end this pointless flaming and bitchin by being light hearted about it, taking a new approach. Im getting good support here on the anti-flaming issue which is pretty good considering the last few weeks.

Anyway I hardly expect the infamous flame to stop [ Ive still to see more of Negative classic flames] but I want the pointless bandwagon flaming to stop. By all means flame where it is neccessary but please look at some of the threads, undercutting humourless jabs at people for no apparent reason.

Yeah I said Id leave and I didnt, I look on it as a good thing.

If you want me to change the sig it goes, thats my attitude these days, its kinda a joke, lets stop taking things so serious and through it make AO a community not a haven for abuse.

*sorry for the speech got carried away*

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Originally posted by Ennis
Antionline will return to it's former self! ;)

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Click here to go back in time! Hope you want to keep the new design, though ;)

It really wasn't directed at you Ennis, i have no qualm with you.
Don't change your sig on my account either, i certainly commend your new, easy going attitude - i'm usually too stoned to get uptight but i've been working 18 hour days for the past week wrestling with an ancient aix box running oracle 7 - i'm not a dba or even that au fait with aix but there's a skill shortage here (maybe you should come to belfast vorlin!)
Anyways - that was a generic rant aimed at nobody in particular, take from it what you will.

Sorry pete, anyway it dosent matter, I respect you and thats all that matters!

;)

Respect that's the way we all get along.

Ennis: perhaps I did post it elsewhere but I'am joining your mission if you like it.

NOTICE: THIS THREAD WAS NOT STARTED BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ENNIS WROTE...that being said, I posted this thread because I want someone to tell me why there's so much BS bickering and such going on...not because of Ennis' departure...I don't even know who he/she/it is. If it gets people to realize the idiocy of the current MB status, great...but I don't want anyone thinking I wrote this because of anything Ennis [did/said/wrote/posted].

Anyways, I just got back from an italian grill and man, those orange macaroons they made were the best! *passes around orange macaroons*

petemcevoy: if you'd like some assistance with AIX (sorry bro, sucks for you, hehe, I don't like AIX much) and oracle, PM me and I'll see what I can do (currently working with HP 9000 N class/D class/K class/T500's running Oracle 8i.

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Originally posted by Vorlin
NOTICE: THIS THREAD WAS NOT STARTED BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ENNIS WROTE...

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Im guessing everyone knows, they were replying to my replies to your thread, no need for the Caps Lock.

I agree with ennis in genarel however when somebody pukes and spews vomit all over me..guess what? I reech... I grunt ... all of a sudden I have to puke too. :chuck:

No prob Ennis, I'm just not fond of "those that jump on the bandwagon"...which seems prevalent in some of the posts on the MB which prompted me to write this in caps (to a degree) which you said 'Be gone o ye of caps lock!'! Or something like that...

As for larryjs, ::rofl:: that's good... "I reech... I grunt ..." (laughing at thoughts of those reeching)

Um. . . ok. Thanks for that little bit of information. :firedevil

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I agree with ennis in genarel however when somebody pukes and spews vomit all over me..guess what? I reech... I grunt ... all of a sudden I have to puke too. :chuck:

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Hehe have to admit that is good...! :eek:

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No prob Ennis, I'm just not fond of "those that jump on the bandwagon"...which seems prevalent in some of the posts on the MB which prompted me to write this in caps (to a degree) which you said 'Be gone o ye of caps lock!'! Or something like that...

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Bygones...!

:p

I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon too...but only to a certain extent. Flaming can be a good thing. It's entertaining. And if someone truly is an idiot they need to know it. Can you imagine people asking "how do you hack hotmail" and NOT getting flamed? That would just be wrong.

So I guess what I'm trying to say. Flames where people are just called gay or other names are stupid. Ones where the flamer truly has superior technical knowledge is good.

I remember one thread with Negative and Paul Zest. Both are smart, and I remember Darwin and other technical books being quoted a lot and the flames were readable, spelled right, and grammatically correct. They didn't insult each other, just each other's knowledge.

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Originally posted by Alcatraz
I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon too...but only to a certain extent. Flaming can be a good thing. It's entertaining. And if someone truly is an idiot they need to know it. Can you imagine people asking "how do you hack hotmail" and NOT getting flamed? That would just be wrong.

So I guess what I'm trying to say. Flames where people are just called gay or other names are stupid. Ones where the flamer truly has superior technical knowledge is good.

I remember one thread with Negative and Paul Zest. Both are smart, and I remember Darwin and other technical books being quoted a lot and the flames were readable, spelled right, and grammatically correct. They didn't insult each other, just each other's knowledge.

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hmmmmm how about posting a link to this legendary discourse?

Great post Vorlin. I'll back you up 110% on that. Honestly folks...we've got to shapen up and do something about this place...maybe not how it origionally was supposed to be:

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Click here to go back in time! Hope you want to keep the new design, though

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But stop with the senseless flaming. On a knowledgable basis it's fine, I think, ...but this endless rambling of just bullshit is getting to everyone...and making this place a lot less likely to succeed in it's number one goal: Computer Knowledge

[WebCarnage] is absolutely correct-i salut u-if thats anything to be happy about......anyway what i want to say is we have to make the leap to make AO what it should be...otherwise who else is going to?.....the faries.....

"the only reason faries are 'mythical' is because we need something to aspire to-because who wants to be crucified like jesus?no one-they want to fly..."

(just something someone told me
once-i find it amusing):D

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Originally posted by Alcatraz
I remember one thread with Negative and Paul Zest. Both are smart, and I remember Darwin and other technical books being quoted a lot and the flames were readable, spelled right, and grammatically correct. They didn't insult each other, just each other's knowledge.

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Perhaps one of the greatest threads at AO ever, I got flamed by Zest, tried to flame him then Negative came in and I seen somereat minds go at it in a respectful manner which made for good reading, it wasnt pointless flaming like f... you, no ignorance just a good debate.

I actually just read the Negative vs. Zest a few days ago for the first time while researching something or other.

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=124337

That's the link to it, larry, and for whoever else wants to read it.

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Originally posted by Alcatraz
I actually just read the Negative vs. Zest a few days ago for the first time while researching something or other.

http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=124337

That's the link to it, larry, and for whoever else wants to read it.

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Thanks

The thread behind the link is another good representation of Negative style. (I think this time Belgium rules)

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Originally posted by petemcevoy
) but i'd have to say i'm almost as sick of the whining as i am of the flaming - its a public forum, post what you like and if you don't like what somebody said, post a reply or say nothing -

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I coudn't agree more. In the words of NoNeckJoe "Quit yer bitchin"