Question on the mentality of some users...

Ok, let's see...where to start. Ah yes, the points sytem. You know, I'm not at all expecting every member to agree with things I might write about or post but there are some tactful things one might remember (Sebastos12, you might want to pay real close attention to this as you seem to suffer from high-school-teenage-I've-gotta-yell-obscenities-at-everyone-because-it's-my-freedom-of-speech*):

1: If I don't outright yell at you, don't yell at me
2: If I don't cuss at you specifically, don't cuss at me
3: When posting negative points to my post because you don't agree with it, a comment that consists of "**** you by sebastos12" doesn't really come across as a well-thought-out response. Are we getting the picture that this post is in response to Sebastos12's "**** you by sebastos12" comment to my C# response post?

As it is now, I don't mind if someone disagrees with a post I write but that's just outright immature and makes a person look like a dumbass. Guess it really does take all kinds...

* - this does not reflect on every high-school teenager, just 90% of them that I've run into that seem to have something to prove to everyone because "nobody understands them"...

I figured something out on the antipoints but I'm not going to post anything here because it would be abused by idiots like Sebastos12 and others who seem to love to post negative points with vulgar comments...

We all got that same post. Seems like Sebastos have had a bad day or something. Or too much spare-time.....

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Originally posted by Vorlin
3: When posting negative points to my post because you don't agree with it, a comment that consists of "**** you by sebastos12" doesn't really come across as a well-thought-out response. Are we getting the picture that this post is in response to Sebastos12's "**** you by sebastos12" comment to my C# response post?

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Join the club. I recieved a similar balance antipoint from sebastos12. Not only this, but this is the fourth time he has sent me some. I really am beginning to think that certain members are deserving of the flames that they recieve. Then again if we hadnt flamed him in the first place, he might not have become so disgruntled. I think he has a vendetta against me. Oh well.

I guess I can join the "received attempted negative points with a nasty comment by sebastos12" club. I got the exact same attempted points with the same comments. When I confronted him about it, he admitted it. I'm not sure why he would sign negative points like that, especially when being nasty. Unless everybody else's were really recent, I wouldn't worry about it. If they were, maybe it's time to turn him over to JP. I'm not going to worry about that, though. If somebody else wants to go to the trouble to report it, go for it. I won't though. I don't think it's that big of a deal.



Vorlin: What kind of teenagers are you coming into contact with? The ones I have to deal with (my high school class) are that way because they're on an ego trip, not because they feel nobody understands them. They just act resentful when they feel that nobody understands them. As a "geeky" teenager, I can see both sides of that argument. The teenagers on an ego trip act like asses and then get pissed when they're not treated like adults. They have no right to complain. However, that stereotype is used to judge ALL teenagers, so the ones that can be civil have to suffer just as much. They have every right to complain. I know you were a teenager at one point, so you should understand what I'm trying to say, no matter which side you were on.

I would like to agree with this thread there should be some changes with AO put it's not our site to mess with. Most of the changes will happen if we request enough but it's all up to the man with the editing software.

Anyway in response to using bad language. I would have to argree. I've gone to war with people and have gotton stupid antipoints with nothing but foul language on them. All it tells me is that these people are not educated enough to express themselves. I really do frown on people when they say bad words on threads or anything else. To me it just gets me ryled up enough to comment and I usually do over due it but I win and they eventually stop posting. Anyway don't use bad language you look more like and idiot and some people like me will actually make you cry to your mommy if you do.

Oh now I get the commment and negative antipoints I recieved

It were antipoints by Sebastos12,

He said "I will give you negative antipoints for ever if you don't give me points for this. Happy Christmas" by Sebastos12.

Don't worry, most of Sebastos' point don't affect your own point total at all.

First of all, most of his points don't count anyways. Don't worry, almost all of us have gotten that message before so don't take it personally.

Right on...appreciate the comments by everyone on this. It would seem that something could be done on the points issue (already posted I know), and that maybe JP could figure out a better way (moderator or some email addy to send complaints about?) to handle them. Now, for some good comments, this is a great site. I love coming here everyday to help people out and from this post I received positive antipoints (names changed to protect the guilty hehe) from two people who 'left because of the same thing'. I like helping people out. I like trying to be of some assistance to my peers in the same field as me, that being computers overall, from programming, to sys admin work, to security...Anything I can pass on to someone who needs help is a good thing for me because ...

"You can't say you know anything until you teach it to someone else."

Don't know if someone said that sometime or if I just pulled it out of my @$$ but it's true...I'm so tired of these high-and-mighty people who act like they have all the answers when they don't.
One hard lesson learned a long time ago was me learning how to say "I don't know" to something and getting help. After all, the worst thing to have behind the keyboard is a unix admin who thinks they know everything (watched that happen once, 16 hours of recovery later).

stflook - I dunno...I'm nothing what you would consider "popular" in HS or now. Last night I went to Wal-Mart to get stuff and there were these three teenage kids (probably 16-18) with one riding in the shopping cart (dumbass). Listening to them talk (if I got a buck for every 'like', 'you know', and 'whatever') and watching them roll their eyes when I said 'Excuse me' while passing just tells me that it's another example of Mom-and-Dad-give-me-everything (driving a 2001 Camaro?) attitude. Not many I've seen or met had to work the sh*t jobs from the bottom or had to pay for their cars/insurance or anything like that. Great idea on the 'future of America'. Glad my kids run on 120 volts! Discipline in today's childcare is a whole issue by itself. My parents only had to count to three *once* for me and my sister yet today I see kids (like my gf's cousin's kid) throwing rocks and being told gently "Eyes only...eyes only". Man, my mom would have beat me down bigtime if I threw *one* rock at someone, much less handfuls. Anyways, before I get on that soapbox, I just think a lot of sh*t needs to change and very fast. A lot of these people need to grow up and realize that the world consists of a lot of other things and not just themselves. And to answer your question, not all are bad, like yourself, some are good. Just a very very few.

Vorlin I agree totally with you the kids now adays seem to think the world revolves around them. I have a teen age daughter who is a pretty smart kid but most of her freinds I`d like to take out behind the wood shed and teach them some manners. The language that comes out of their mouths would make a sailor blush and these are girls in grade ten. I may be from the old school when if we talked like that in front of parents even if they were not our own boy would we have a strange taste in our mouths. Now a days parents are scared to gross out their kids for fear that someone might think that they are bad people. Most do not realise that kids need rules and if they break the rules they need more than "oh Johnny dont do that, that wasnt nice" as their little johnny just took a gun to school and took out half of the teachers because they gave him a bad grade. And if some think I`m wrong read the news . When did the kids start running the world Its time to stand up and tell these kids that they want something then go get a job and work for the money to buy it thats what my daughter does and she does not use the language that her friends do because if her boss heard her she would loss her job, works great there isnt the rudeness or the I want give me now bull that others have to put up with ,with their kids. Now don`t get me wrong my kid is no angel but she is learning that its hard out in the real world and there are rules that you have to follow whether you like them or not. Also it helps shes in army cadets and they are teaching her how to respect others which is lacking in our school systems. This is my rant thanks for the opening to post one of my pet peeves. Keep posting Vorlin you have some interesting thoughts.

Hmmm... interesting to see that it never stays behind. Now I'm sorta new to this whole forum here (you can all probably tell) but I have been around with mailing lists (you know the old fashioned majordomo style...) and have seen these things come and go... a hundred million times.

Honestly, I gotta agree with the basic conversation here, however.... from a new onlookers view I tend to base my opinion on what's in the text rather than the point rating on the screen. Hopefully that should give you guys some sorta positive reinforcement... I've read interesting and usefull posts from most every name above me here and hope you all agree...

some people are best ignored.

eh... oh well... keep posting regardless!!! the reading is well timed, and usefull

JRC

in answer to the previos posts i would have to agree.when i was at high school(2 yrs ago) i wasn't the stereotyped definition of a "geek"(actually i was pretty well off). there was those groups that ruined everyones lives.i remember this girl in my class had just lost her dad last week and these "oh high and mighty" continued with the torment.

though i am against violence i am proud to say that last week,when i found out the same group was up to their old ways i marched up and bashed the **** out of one of the girls.......must admit it was great.........i seriously believe that they get their own **** back(one way or another):D

look, these loose screws are nothing to bother yourself about,especially at school-because soon enough you'll be in the real world and if they are anything like the kids at my school they will not be prepared like you will.

so the happy end to my story is that i got insight onto the girl i hit and it turns out that she's lost her dead end job and her high school sweetie left her.oh...boo...hoo
its a good night for me the moons great and im outside on my laptop blabbering away to you all............................till next time..............

lostit44: thanks, appreciate the compliment. I don't know why it seems some have to be bent on "doing the wrong things" just because they can. Having moved out of the house at 20 and having been on my own for 6 years now, I've seen quite a bit of what the "real real world" has to offer and I can assure you that these kids that live in a plastic bubble with everything given to them and no discipline ever being warranted, well, they're going to find out (as I've seen) what happens when you go into life with *that* mentality. As for your daughter, I hope she holds out strong because God alone knows it's fairly easy to corrupt and peer pressure (like idiots on here posting stupid sh*t) will never go away. What's even more interesting is the whole "let's be friends forever" all the way up to graduation. Then what? I haven't talked to a single person I graduated with in over 2 years and it's not due to my lack of trying. I've got three email addresses (all real, no freemail), a cell phone, a home phone, work phone, and freaking call collect if you have to...but no, communication, the most important thing I believe, is generally broken. Next time I see these people will be at the 10 year reunion (2004). I can't wait for the fake "Oh I haven't talked to you in *such* a long time". Stop wasting my time and don't even pretend you even care about what I do, think, say, or anything else...

&stop_ranting(now);

ordeliaoser: that's some funny sh*t! And you're right, it does come back around eventually. Everything does. Let someone out in traffic and watch them immediately let someone else in. It's infectious, whether it's good or bad. I try to do as much good as I can (last night at Best Buy, I offered a total stranger to take his 25" TV to his house with him riding with me and his mom following because there was NO way it was fitting in his Acura, hehe) because eventually, I might need some help somewhere and hopefully someone will think like I do and help me. But it's good that the girl got her 'just desserts'. People need an @$$ kicking every now and then. Keeps everyone on track.