how to tell if your kid is a malicious hacker?????

Hey guys.. i was just reading some things on this website and i came across a section that tells you how to tell if your kid is a malicious hacker.. I was reading through and saw a sentence that asked.. "5. Every good parent should be aware of the type of reading material their children are choosing. Does your child have a subscription to "2600" .. as if reading 2600 somehow makes you a malicious hacker???? Thats holding a huge prejustice against people.. isnt that what were trying to defend against? .. 2600 does not condone malicious acts.. they serve to inform people of the deepests workings of technology... if a kid reads this he is a malicious hacker?.. people who read that mag are in a search on knowledge.. that should be supported.. in antionlines deffinition of a hacker they state; "hacker n. - A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities" .. wouldnt reading 2600 help them explore all the details.. anyway.. what do you guys think?

As i get older i see that adults are just as ignorant as children . 2600 does not encourage malicious hacking although it is discussed as a means of civil disobedience , with no tutorials on how to hack how can 2600 be blamed for insighting hactivism.
I.T. and the net came from the department of defense and hackers were behind the innovative ip protocols ma bell laughed at the idea of a computer network , now because a child might have enough skill to render a network useless we as adults want to stop his growth. the navy seals have a saying "We arent that good its just everybody else sucks".

EvIl Elf

SilentTone has a point here...
I like the structure of his post.

(Ex)= general operator
^ and operator
- negation (not operator)
-> (if) then
Mx member AO
Cx cracker
2600x 2600 reader
K knowledge


(Ex)[Mx - Cx]
(Ex)[2600 -> Cx]
__________________________
(Ex)[Mx - 2600x]

(Ex)[Mx ^ K]
(Ex)[2600x ^ K)
__________________________
(Ex)[Mx ^ 2600x]

Prob: [Mx ^ 2600x] and [Mx - 2600x] = contradiction Mx

LOL
good post SilentTone

nobody's perfect, you shouldn't have to look for signs that your kid is a hacker. They're children make it a point to violate their privacy every chance you get. Check the Hard Drive, pester him about hacking confront him every chance you get. Checking for "signs" doesn't accomplish anything other than cause you to throw suspicion where it shouldn't be thrown. Make sure you go thru his cds and his drives, make him dencrypt any suspicious items, if he doesn't do it, shatter the cd. When he does check out what it is, if it's porn then show some class and walk away, if it's hacking utilities it should be painfully obvious what your kid is doing and what his lv is, IE if you find 3 copys of BO and 2 copys of Subseven and the latest SATAN util whip his ass and take his hard drive. He's a kid, you own his ass till he's 18 don't let him forget it.

We might as well assume that if a person is a member of the NRA, they go around shooting people for the fun of it; if someone does research on the physics behind an atomic explosion, they're gonna nuke us; if someone notices that an ad has popped up randomly on their co-worker's computer showing gay porn, then that co-worker is gay...

Anyone get what I'm trying to say?

Probably not, but it was worth a try ;)

God bless
--PhirePhreak

Speaking of 2600 and NRA and crap, does anyone know the Bernie S story?

He was arrested for making/selling red boxes. When he got arrested, he had like 1/2 dozen of them (that were not completed). The police searched his house, and out of over 100 books, 2 of them included instructions on how to make a bomb. Because of those 2 books, the judge determined that he was a "menace to society" and withheld bail.

Damn parents cant see past the word 'hacker', when they see hacker they see some evil lil cracker taking down the damn FBI and Im not going overboard, parents are blind to the fact the hackers may actually have ethics.

Tsk.

Ethics? White Hat?
As a parent of some up and coming "hackers" (for lack of a better term for someone really interested in the inner workings of computers, networks, etc.) and a 'puter geek myself I'd have to say that people need to stop with the witch hunt. If you really want to know what your kids are up to the why don't you just talk to them?
Is it so horrible to have to interact with your progeny or is it just easier to blame some outside website,magazine,music for your shortcomings.
End of rant.

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Originally posted by KorpDeath
Ethics? White Hat?
As a parent of some up and coming "hackers" (for lack of a better term for someone really interested in the inner workings of computers, networks, etc.) and a 'puter geek myself I'd have to say that people need to stop with the witch hunt. If you really want to know what your kids are up to the why don't you just talk to them?
Is it so horrible to have to interact with your progeny or is it just easier to blame some outside website,magazine,music for your shortcomings.
End of rant.

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VictorKaum.. lol.. :-D.. thx dude.. souleman.. yes i have heard of the bernie s case.. tis sad.. even worse is mitnick's case.. phirephreak.. im catchin your drift as well.. that is why i think its bad that antionline put that part about 2600 in there.. assuming things causes trouble.. much like the media jumping on a story

:cool: There is no technological solution
for something that is a moral
problem.
I do not lock my door at night.
Leaving my door unlocked does not
give you an invitation to come
in, open my fridge, and drink
my beer.
Technology gives us the tools
to pick almost any lock.
Possession of the tool does not
give me the right to trespass.
Being bigger than some other
kid does not give you the right
to beat him up and take his
lunch money.
Gee it sounds so simple.
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This is coming from a parent. Most of the time if you just talk to your kids in a reasonable fashion and really listen to what they are saying then you will know what they are doing. If you don`t trust them then install a keylogger on their computer.There are many ways of keeping an eye on what your kids are doing the biggest problem is some parents don`t want to take control and deal with their kids. How may of them just let TV or the computer raise the kids without letting the kids know what is right from wrong. I know many a parent who says that they don`t have time with work and going out to trouble with their kids problems so they let the kids friends tell them whats what in the world. Its a sad commentary on what the world it coming to when a box basiclly raises the children and if there are problems with that child its always someone elses fault never the parents. I say lets put the blame where it belongs not on a mag but on people who never spend time with their kids.

agreed.. parents would be to blame not a magazine.. i say that antionline takes that off the page.. because if a child turns maliciouos, its because the parents have lost controll, not because the magazine somehow warped their minds.. 2600 dosent condone malicious acts anyway... take it off the page antionline :p

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Originally posted by zepherin
nobody's perfect, you shouldn't have to look for signs that your kid is a hacker. They're children make it a point to violate their privacy every chance you get. Check the Hard Drive, pester him about hacking confront him every chance you get. Checking for "signs" doesn't accomplish anything other than cause you to throw suspicion where it shouldn't be thrown. Make sure you go thru his cds and his drives, make him dencrypt any suspicious items, if he doesn't do it, shatter the cd. When he does check out what it is, if it's porn then show some class and walk away, if it's hacking utilities it should be painfully obvious what your kid is doing and what his lv is, IE if you find 3 copys of BO and 2 copys of Subseven and the latest SATAN util whip his ass and take his hard drive. He's a kid, you own his ass till he's 18 don't let him forget it.

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Mmm yes...treat your kid as if he/she is property, and subject them to draconian rules, make them feel as if Hitler is running their lives..in return you will get fear, distrust and rebellion. I hope this post was sarcasm because if not, I pity any kids you might have. But you'll find that out the hard way when they rebel and you find yourself wondering what you did wrong...

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Originally posted by AlcioneKnight



Mmm yes...treat your kid as if he/she is property, and subject them to draconian rules, make them feel as if Hitler is running their lives..in return you will get fear, distrust and rebellion. I hope this post was sarcasm because if not, I pity any kids you might have. But you'll find that out the hard way when they rebel and you find yourself wondering what you did wrong...

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It's better to have a kid who hates you than a kid who's in prison getting shanked in the ass by two ball busting skin heads because you were too worryed about his privacy. Then your a bad parent. Kids don't know ****, they've been alive for less than 18 years.

Lostit44

I totaly agree!!! I see far too many parents letting there children go to A rated movies, and then wonder where they get the ide of setting the local cat on fire. There exuse always seems like "there with there friends" or "I can't keep an eye on him/her 24 seven" Its sad to see. But more parents need to be more responsible!!!!


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