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I've recently read at http://www.oracle.com/guarantee/performancekit/
and http://www.sql-tutorial.net/faq2.htm that if you can beat the Oracle 9i Application Server you will win $1,000,000..
My hat's off to who ever dose so.. After loseing that lump sum of money they'll change their slogan.
Remote_Access_
He'll be bankrupt by 5:00. I can't believe how arrogant that guy is....
Maybe when he realizes what a dumb mistake he made, he'll come here and start a flame war. After all, that's what all the other dumb people do. :p
Didn't we see this with Oracle 8i already? <cough> BUFFER OVERFLOW ATTACK <cough> Oh, well ... guess it takes some $1M to learn. ;)
~N~
Hehe, some could call this "Outsourced develop and troubleshooting" and could write it off on taxes. Oracle's got the money to drop on this, and everyone knows that "the programmer is the last person who should be testing their own software".
My GOD ... a tax-write-off! Man, Vorlin, you seem to have hit it on the head with this!
~N~
Yes, we all know 0racle has the money for that sort of advertisement but "Why would they want to do that?", you ask.
Interesting question...
<THEORY> I suppose if you encourage hackers/crackers to break their server then the holes will be fixed in the next version. Makeing it a better application with more security than the last version. Ingenious idea isn't it?</THEORY>
Remote_Access_
RA:
Exactly. Another thing...if it's broken into or otherwise busted, they can then say it was planned because of the contest and they don't lose face (like MS does ALL the time, surprised they have any left) when announcing it.
Stipulation is that they have to provide the way they broke it of course (the person who breaks it). Not a bad way to do it and they'd have to offer quite a bit of money because nobody usually tries to bust into a system through the database (although some smart mother****ers got apache that way, white hats though).
Why in the heck would somebody offer money tempting someone to break their system?! I mean, let's face it, there's always a way inside, nothing is foolproof. That's just being arrogant and asking for trouble when you lay money on the line like that. Wish I had that kind of money to just throw around.
I thought I answered that in my previous post.. Look at the <THEORY> stated above.. Now do you get it? I know there's always a way inside and so dose 0racle.. That's why they encourage people to find the holes so they can be fixed and a better product will be the result of this.Quote:
Why in the heck would somebody offer money tempting someone to break their system?!
Remote_Access_
You know what? The above theory is right on ... however, I have a more underhanded explanation. Ellison is a media slut. Think about it - it's a win-win: if "ORACLE UNHACKABLE" comes out of this - it's a win. if "ORACLE HACKED; ELLISON PROMISES FIX" comes out of this - he's a hero for being proactive - again, a win.
Maybe I'm just being cynical here ... but methinks not.
Comments?
~N~
You have a good point there nietzsche.
Either way it goes it's in favor for 0racle. First the claim that it's "unhackable" is going to draw alot of attention from the media, businesses, and of course hackers. Second, if 9i is compromised, hacked, has a hole, etc. then 0racle will probably get even more attention.
"ORACLE 9i HACKED BY [insert alias here]!"
Then that's even more time in the spot light. They get to do interviews, reports, etc. on how it was hax0red and then they fix it.. what happens after that? Third, most companies and orginizatins that use 0racle will most likely buy the latest version or some sort of upgrade/add on so that they won't be vulnerable to that security flaw any more, thus makeing even more money and getting more advertisement from the media and other sources. Just my opinion. :D
Remote_Access_
/me agrees whole heartedly with Remote_Access_.
Although I think that the idea of anything being completely "Unhackable" is absolutely absurd. There is always some sort of flaw in EVERYTHING. It is just a matter of time before someone breaks in *cough* me *cough* ;)
/me thinks my evil scheme to take over the world is set in motion now
errr....ummm....did I think that out loud?
- I agree with you. I think that 0racle knows that also.Quote:
Although I think that the idea of anything being completely "Unhackable" is absolutely absurd. There is always some sort of flaw in EVERYTHING.
<THEORY> I suppose 0racle programmers and database designers can't find most of the security flaws in their software.. So, they make an arrogant advertisement that encourages people to try and hack/crack/break 9i and if/when they do, they can make an update/new version so more people buy their product..</THEORY>
rofl sure, if you did break 9i my hat's off to ya but I seriously doubt it. Positive APs for the effort though. :DQuote:
It is just a matter of time before someone breaks in *cough* me *cough*
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/me takes oracle CD and breaks it.
wheres my $$ ya bastards??
Oh if only it were that easy... I wish I could just break the cd or use the /me command..
/me breaks 0racle 9i
Whoot whoo! $1M for me!
rofl Heh, I wish. ;)
Remote_Access_