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Ok, I'm new to linux and need somr basic help. 1st: anyone know where I can d/l some intro to using linux type books? i've found really tech books and security books but i need help in normal usage. 2nd: ok, i want to learn a programing lang. but what does evryone sugest? i'm thinking eather Java or C, mabye python(but i think it's too weak) let me know...
thanks
well considering you said you are new to linux.. i would take that you are used to Windows..
for one.. i would suggest for you to use RedHat.. its the easiest and less complex linux distro.. and you can find a book for that.. its not that technical..
for a programming language.. it depends on what you want to do.. Java is mostly web based.. while as C is mainly System Based.. I would Suggest C coz once you master C you can then move up to C++
But you really dont have to master C to move to C++... you can go straight to C++ but it would be much more easier for you to learn C++ if you have experience in C... ;)
well.. i would totally agree with her.. but then if you dont like RedHat you can always try Mandrake or Slackware...
and if you really are a GUI monkey i would recomend Visual Basic 6.0 for you..
I'm using RedHat 7.2 and yea i'm good with windows, but linux.... it'll take some getting use to, but mabye soon....
ok i think i'll learn C coz i keep hearing evryone say alot of dif langs are like C and i think if taht's so it'll be easyest to learn C 1st then mabye some more:) just got to go buy a few books this weekend:( oh well i guess i can spend some money on it......
i do consider that redhat is fairly easy to use. i presume that u r refering to its shell not the gui, cos the gui is pretty much like win.
rgds
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check out some of these sites
c/c++ programming
http://www.1001tutorials.com/
http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/C++/
http://www.programmersheaven.com/
http://code.box.sk/
linux
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/
http://linux.box.sk/index.php
http://linux.box.sk/index.php http://www.versalife.f2s.com/tutoria.../c++/index.htm
hope this helped:D
about to chek all thous links:) BTW: what's evrones fav desktop enviroment, and plz tell why? i like kde and Gnome both but can't pick one i like more then the other........
hum seeing how i'm tring to get into linux/out of windows I don't think visual basic/nor VC++ whould be a good choice coz they only work for windows:) (BTE i've got visual studios 6 for windows:)lol)Quote:
Originally posted by s0nIc
...if you really are a GUI monkey i would recomend Visual Basic 6.0 for you..
everyone else seems to disagree with me on this, but in my opinion you should start with c++ before c. i learned c first and later as i went back to learn c++ it was difficult for me to "unlearn" many of the c-style of programming that i was accustomed to.
but then again it all depends what you want to do. c is a subset of c++, but if you're looking for the more elegant language i would go for c++.
hows it going guerrillase7en? Anyway Im a KDE user for the similarity it has between it and the more familiar MS Windows environment. Anyway, many people will tell you that it is slower than Gnome or that it is too much like windows, but it is not slower on my computer. The thing I suggest is to try both for yourself, but also try some of the other environments too, I personally love the way windows maker looks over both KDE and Gnome, it is just harder to navigate. By the way welcome to the dark side :)Quote:
Originally posted by guerrillase7en
about to chek all thous links:) BTW: what's evrones fav desktop enviroment, and plz tell why? i like kde and Gnome both but can't pick one i like more then the other........
oh, yea that remends me is there anyway to make linux faster? i have a 900MHz over clocked to a gig and it's running mor like 300-500MHz is there anyway to speed it up? like mabye how can i move my linux partition to the front of my hard drive and put windows on the back?
i've seen problems on a laptop running xfree without framebuffer. When used under KDE, StarOffice 6.0 beta used to crash every now and then, but especially in the presentation module. The problem didnt appear in Gnome though. As for the speed, KDE seems to run pretty well on my computer, except for netscape that sometimes asks for huge amounts of memory (reminds me of the ancient windoze days ;) )
hope this helped a bit
All GUIs are hopelessly slow. You gotta learn to love that black screen.
Maybe it might be faster if you put the swap partition at the front.
Too bad there isn't some automated utility to help you tweak things,
but eventually, you may find ways to clear the bottlenecks.
:cool:
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Originally posted by s0nIc
and if you really are a GUI monkey i would recomend Visual Basic 6.0 for you..
If the poor guy is trying to learn to program, don't tell him to use VB... I mean, yay, it has a gui.... but it teaches horribubble programming..... the syntax... the syntax would make a programming santa vomit in disgust....
I'd recommend Delphi as a good learning language with a gui... its a marked improvement on its ancestor, Pascal....
I don't know if there is Delphi for *nix.. but I do know that there is pascal.. I've seen it with mah own 3 eyes....
Check out pascal if there isn't a Delphi for *nix... its quite simple, and teaches beautiful programming... most likely because it was developed as a language for teaching programming....
Too bad there arent tools to generate and read MS Office-type files (DOC, PPT) in console and there's no support for java applets under lynx ... i dont think i'd need anything else besides that