theories of mine

i know this should have been posted in the Private Forums/Cosmos section but i don't really know the workings of a private forum so here it is.

i thought i'd post some things that I CAME UP with that boggle my mind. I may sound crazy to some of you folks but i had to tell some ppl more intelligent than me so i can get your opinions. like i said, i might soung crazy but bear with me.

1. The rate that which sound waves diffuse
2. Cheating gravity


:::The rate that sound waves diffuse:::

Say that you are sitting in your bedroom listening out the window at the cars that pass by on the main road a 1/2 a mile from your house. You will probably hear a low rumbling noise. But, if you were right next to those cars i'm sure it sounds a lot different. My point being that somewhere along the way from the street to your house the sound waves changed and have been affected in a way that it changed the sound completelty. So, if you were to take all possibile factors (decibles, frequency, surface area, etc...) and devise a formula to know what the sound will be before it even reaches it's destination, you would probably be able to make a machine that can spit silence, and have it make a sound a mile away with no speakers or radios. Wierd huh?


:::Cheating Gravity:::

This one is kind of simple. Picture a really small magnet, north on one side and south on the other, as kind of like a pixel in a picture. Put all these pixels together to form a sphere of magnets but with all north poles on the outside. Now make a smaller sphere with all the south poles on the outside. What would happen if you put the smaller one in the middle? Most likely the force would be equal on all sides and it could float (if gravity isn't affecting it. but if it was, make all magnets electrical and balance the forces out) If this is true there could be a variety of great uses for it. Such as a hoverboard skatepark!.

Well...refering to whether ur weird or not...I think u R. Get ur fundamentals rite...dude!

With reference to the topic of diffusion of sound-waves:

Due to the Doppler effect phenomenon. On the possibility of the machine spitting out silence; it is an interesting thought, but theortically not possible.

Cheating gravity?:

Have you ever seen or heard about a magnet with a just a north pole? Magnets are dipoles. It has a north pole and a south pole. It cannot exist with just one pole. It is not possible to isolate a pole. So...ur idea of "cheating gravity" is illogical. For further reading...refer to ur school physics book.

having studying Physics and Quantum Physics for 2 years.. well for the cheating gravity.. yeah that is possible..

gravity is based on the MASS of a certain object... which explains why the earth orbits around the sun and the moon orbits around the earth.. im sure you know that the moon's gravity is the one responsible for our water's tides..

and yes you can do that with a magnet.. having both sides of eaqual force none of them have enough strength to pull u on either side makes u float in the middle.. (that is if you are made out of metal..)

for the sound.. well there is no formula but there is an equipment that would measure the sound wave and annalize it and compare it with other sound waves to identify what it is.. each sound made by an object has its own peaks and drops.. those peaks and drops make up the vibration that is then picked up by your eardrum and translated to sound by your brain... but the vibration has to be detected so if you want to detect a sound from a far away and know what it is b4 it reaches u.. increase the sensitivity of the machine..

and about making a sound in a far away place w/o using speakers or radio.. well dat is theoratically possible..

in quantum physics.. we all live in a multiverse.. pallarel universe.. if an object can travel at a rate of speed that can distort molecular structure it is said to distort time and space itself..

so the rough idea is this.. u make a sound here.. sound passes through a worm hole (molecular space distortion) and speed slows down in a certain point and makes the sound detectable.. get me? or is that too complex for you? i can go through further detail but im not sure u wont be able to comprehend the idea...

WoW! That's really intresting! Please write more on this! Sonic and 5150 i'm talking to you!
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Now bear with me guys, because this idea is completely conceptual. I think that it may be possible to cheat gravity on a mental level. Now before you all go jumping down my throat about what i am saying, let me explain and also realize that this is a hypothetical. I think that this hypothetical my be possible in theory, but to execute it would be improbable.

With this disclaimer out of the way, here is the theory. Science has shown that it may be possible for people to have an inate ability to control their circumstances through their mind. For example, people with terminal diseases living, only because they desired to be healed. Other circumstances have shown people curing themselves of less extreme instances as well. In other instances people have "willed" (i use the term loosely) themselves to pass tests without studying among other things. Some of these things are done through positive affirmations. the form for positive affirmations is as follows: i, <name>, will <action>. Now, there are two theories on how these things work. The first is that brain waves are magnetic and every time we think, a magnetic wave (unique to each thought) is sent out. Due to cause and effect, all effects all, and these waves alter the things that we percieve to be reality. The other idea is that faith would allow these things to happen. In other words, "if i believe it enough, it becomes true" So, if a said person had a strong enough mental capacity, he or she could believe gravity does not exist and therefor over come it. It's a strange theory, but may be feasible, even if it is impossible to prove.

*** a note to think about: All reality is based on perception. Your reality is unique to the way you percieve things. Therefor, could it be possible to percieve something and alter reality? For example, if i percieve that there is no gravity, would in no longer exist in reality. (i know that this is very similar to the last idea i presented, with affirmations, but it could support it or stand on it's own because it is a seperate concept based on a similar idea.)

lord_darkside_x, deep thinking always leads to a fun conversation.

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In other words, "if i believe it enough, it becomes true" So, if a said person had a strong enough mental capacity, he or she could believe gravity does not exist and therefor over come it.

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It would only become true to that person, but then they would have reached a point of insanity and not be in touch with reality. What you are describing seems to be very similar to the movie "The Matrix". Just because those people have thoughts implanted and they are in there own reality, it doesn't mean that true reality is like that. Though to them it is real, to everyone else it is not. If someone truely thought they were defying gravity and jumped off a building, though they thought they were successfully defying gravity, once they hit the groud, they are dead. The brain will stop working, and theoretically they wouldn't be in the state of mind that they were defying gravity. But then again, who knows what happens after death? And that leads to a whole new thread. :)

i understand you point jaredc, but i disagree. you are assuming that gravity exists immutabley. this assumption although it is excepted by the real world, does not have to exist in my theory. what if gravity only existed because we believed it? also, i have another theory to come soon... one i read somewhere.... but i have to find the text so i don't butcher it.

well it is thought to believe that human beings emmit an energy called "aura" now this energy is stimulated by the mind.. and there are some machines used to be able to see this invisible energy..

levitation is tought to be achieved by harnessing one's aura power to influence with the person's surrounding.. which means the person has to meditate more to learn how to harness his/her aura power..


and for the sound wave.. Sound cannot travel in vacum.. that is a fact given to me by a friend.. but if the sound intensity can be increase to such level that it will distort and break barriers of time and space.. (which means it also has to be faster than light...) it can travel to a worm hole and exit at one point.. during the travel in the worm hole.. the sound can be heard in the OTHER PLANE of the parallel universes.. and once it exits the worm hole.. it then slows down can can be heard in OUR plane.. get that theory?

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you are assuming that gravity exists immutabley. this assumption although it is excepted by the real world, does not have to exist in my theory. what if gravity only existed because we believed it?

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Ahh... I do get what you are saying. I guess what it comes down to is if our thoughts aren't real, then what is? The possibilities are endless.... And this maybe a little off topic, but I think "The Matrix" did cover this really well. What if the technology was invented to take advantage of our senses and thoughts. What if it already is? That could be very scary...

Keep the theories coming. I like these discussions. :)

My theory on the reality thing is that each of us have our own individual perceptions leading to our own little reality, therefore, I agree that if a person thinks positively about something, then they can convince themself that what they see is real. That could be why many people are so different. I've also heard that is how a lot of the hysteria might have been increased during the time of the Salem Witch Trials. The girls could have just convinced themselves they really did see things. Now, about the aura, I have read stuff on that. Its just basically a field of energy around the body. I have seen (in real life) people move things by using energy channels in the body. I've seen this within close proximity of the objects, but I don't fully understand this.

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Originally posted by D.J.
Now, about the aura, I have read stuff on that. Its just basically a field of energy around the body. I have seen (in real life) people move things by using energy channels in the body. I've seen this within close proximity of the objects, but I don't fully understand this.

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You might wanna tell those people to contact James Randi and become millionaires...

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The Randi psychic challenge
Recently, he has solicited pledges and the prize is now $1,000,000 offered through the James Randi Educational Foundation. The only caveat is that the psychic must agree to be tested according to Randi's guidelines. His rules are little more than what any reasonable scientist would require. If you are a mental spoon bender, you can't use your own spoons. If you are going to see auras, you will have to do so under controlled conditions. If you are going to do some remote viewing, you will not be given credit for coming close in some vague way. If you are going to demonstrate your dowsing powers, be prepared to be tested under controlled conditions. If you are going to do psychic surgery, expect to have cameras watching your every move.

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Here's some more reading on 'aura's'...

well, DJ you are right about the reality thing. Anyone can alter his or her reality to some degree. This is usually the basis for dilusions and some insanity. The people believe things differently then they are. What i was talking about with the positive affirmations, transcends individual reality. It effects the physical world. As for reality being percieved though, i wonder if by altering ones reality, could one potentially alter other peoples reality?

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originally posted by duz733
Have you ever seen or heard about a magnet with a just a north pole? Magnets are dipoles

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originally posted by me
Picture a really small magnet, north on one side and south on the other, as kind of like a pixel in a picture. Put all these pixels together to form a sphere of magnets but with all north poles on the outside

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yes i know this and i do believe it could be possible. the sound wave thing is pushing it but if a sound wave can start with sound and end in silence, maybe you can reverse the effect.

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Originally posted by 5150
1. The rate that which sound waves diffuse
2. Cheating gravity

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1. The Dopper Effect takes precedence here...there can be no sound if there is no medium(Air, Water, etc) to trasmit through. (Which is why space(a vacuum) does not carry sound waves, Sonic:)) It's impossible to 'jump' sound waves from one place to another, thus creating silence at the source and sound elsewhere from said source.

2. Superconductors DO float in said environment, as long as it's cold enough;).

Ouroboros

The skatepark idea:
How about this: just keep the outer sphere, and make a board something like this:

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ssssNNNNNsssssssNNNNNsssssssNNNNNssss
  ssssNNNssssssssNNNssssssssNNNssss
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N=north pole
s=south pole

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(sorry for that mutilation)

the board should be exactly the same on both sides, with the north poled areas expanded or contracted as needed. Reasons:
(1)With the inside of the sphere being all south, and like poles opposing, the large amount of south on the boards will keep them hovering.
(2)With opposite poles attracting, the amount (and position) of north on the board will keep it close enough to the "floor" of the sphere that you won't go flying out into the middle, and it will keep the board close to the same distance (about the height of a normal skateboard) at the top as at the bottom (even with gravity), though that is also dependent on weight of the user.

If the board is made correctly, combined with some tech innovations, the boards and sphere could be the equivalent of skateboards on the inside of a planet/space-object sphere (kind of like the planet on halo, but in all directions, if you catch my drift).

Of course, straps would be required.

As for Reversing the Sound Waves:
I believe that would mean making objects that have the inverse properties of the ones used to create the original sounds, and a lot of of junk like that, often involving adding energy to the waves in precise fluctuations to do the opposite of the original, often random reduction of energy of the original sound dampening. In other words:
It's alot of hard work involving a lot of precise measurements, computations, energy, and trillions of other things in order to reverse the original action. Almost like a one-way function, but a hell of a lot more complicated. The point, definately plausible, but who would want to? nevermind, I just know there's someone who would.

Thanks for paying attention if you did. PM me or post if you would like more explanation or to correct something, please.

Just kind of wondering,
All of you are talking and acting as if you were colege professors with all of your theories, so just a question, how many of you actually know what you are talking about?

Not many.

I do however love science and math, and like to think about this type of stuff. I have at least a basic idea of the basics behind this all, and am capable of quickly figuring out or finding more on it.

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Originally posted by s0nIc
Sound cannot travel in vacum.. that is a fact given to me by a friend.. but if the sound intensity can be increase to such level that it will distort and break barriers of time and space..

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ROFLMAO. Uhm... no offense... but let me paraphrase something else that way. "But if the smell of my hamburger could be increased to such a level that it moves into Dimension X..." Sound is only a VIBRATION, which is passed along by moving mass, such as atoms and molecules. In a vacuum, it is empty. That's like trying to make waves in an empty swimming pool. No matter how much you jump, you aren't going to get the person on the deck wet.

As for the magnet thing...

First of all, all know magnetic sources have a "north" and "south" end, that is, we have yet to discover or find proof of magnetic monopoles. The magnetic fields interact! If you were to make a sphere of magnets, all of them with "north" (or "south") pointing towards the outside, you would need FORCE to hold them together. Think about it, the similar ends are closer to each other than the opposite ends, so overall the sphere will tend to fly apart, and as it flies apart, minute differences due to imperfections in the system will cause pieces to move slightly differently, which would make the whole thing rapidly collapse into a less-organized but more-stable clump of magnets clinging together.

As for the sphere-inside-a-sphere idea, even if you could keep all those magnets together in perfect alightment, you MIGHT be able to keep the inner sphere floating... But it's not breaking gravity. It's analogous to if I was sitting on a swing. I'm not touching the ground, but the swingset is supporting my weight. It's not antigravity.

Akanicknick: I don't think this is professor-level.

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Originally posted by Kezil
The skatepark idea:
How about this: just keep the outer sphere, and make a board something like this:

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ssssNNNNNsssssssNNNNNsssssssNNNNNssss
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N=north pole
s=south pole

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(sorry for that mutilation)

the board should be exactly the same on both sides, with the north poled areas expanded or contracted as needed. Reasons:
(1)With the inside of the sphere being all south, and like poles opposing, the large amount of south on the boards will keep them hovering.
(2)With opposite poles attracting, the amount (and position) of north on the board will keep it close enough to the "floor" of the sphere that you won't go flying out into the middle, and it will keep the board close to the same distance (about the height of a normal skateboard) at the top as at the bottom (even with gravity), though that is also dependent on weight of the user.

If the board is made correctly, combined with some tech innovations, the boards and sphere could be the equivalent of skateboards on the inside of a planet/space-object sphere (kind of like the planet on halo, but in all directions, if you catch my drift).

Of course, straps would be required.

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I think that board would have a tendency to flip vertically and plant it's nose to the ground... Also, even if you could somehow bind the magnets together in the right configuration easily, they probably would have to be so powerful just to support their own weight against a 'carpet' of other magnets, that the side effects would probably be certainly unhealthy. That is, your body's electrical nervous system, ionic cell transfer, ferrous materials, etc... would be probably be really screwed up. Don't go near those things with metal fillings, eh?

As for the sound-by-remote thing, it's psuedo-possible. Sound is just a wave, (not an electromagnetic wave) which has to move through a medium. There *is* such a thing as "antinoise" but all that means is a method to dynamically counteract rhythmic noise by making counter-vibrations to dampen out the net vibratory effect. It's sort of like using a spring attached to a person on a swingset, if you pull at the right times, you'll start to slow them down and dampen their oscillation. Antinoise is just normal noise which is timed just right to dampen sound waves. It is not the same thing as 'white' noise, which is just a sort of semirandom noise which drowns out more rhythmic signals.

The only way I can see that you would cause sound to be heard one place, without being there, and without it being heard in the intervening space, is to have TWO sound sources, and set up the sound emission so that certain areas are 'dead zones', where the two sources interact with destructive interference. There would always be certain zones where it COULD be heard, however... but it isn't a straight-line kind of thing. It's an area effect of hear/can't-hear zones. (I would imagine it looks quite like an optical diffusion pattern.)

I never claimed that to be safe, just possible (I've seen an interesting thing like this though: a man with access to a superpowerful magnet levitates everything from coins to frogs in it and there have been no ill effects so far). As for the board flipping on end, it would be designed specifically not to.

Waves:
The sound waves are dampened by what they pass through/come in contact with (ie trees, interfering waves, dopplar effect, etc.). If you were to set up an area with the exact opposite/inverse conditions, it should reverse the effect, though it would probably be a lot harder to do than the original effect.

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Originally posted by Kezil
The sound waves are dampened by what they pass through/come in contact with (ie trees, interfering waves, dopplar effect, etc.). If you were to set up an area with the exact opposite/inverse conditions, it should reverse the effect, though it would probably be a lot harder to do than the original effect.

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So... you mean ADDING energy to the signal? The energy is lost as heat through vibration and friction... So you'd either need a revolutionary anti-entropic material (which doesn't really exist and breaks some thermodynamic laws) or... a nice amplifier :D

Why not just put a radio somewhere, then? It would be far simpler, and would use existing technology, without having to make a sound-detector-and-amplifyer that looks like a tree.

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1. The Dopper Effect takes precedence here...there can be no sound if there is no medium(Air, Water, etc) to trasmit through. (Which is why space(a vacuum) does not carry sound waves, Sonic) It's impossible to 'jump' sound waves from one place to another, thus creating silence at the source and sound elsewhere from said source.

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Sound is only a VIBRATION, which is passed along by moving mass, such as atoms and molecules. In a vacuum, it is empty.

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non taken Terr lol..

well i dont think u got my theory right... ill explain further..

Yes.. sound is only a vibration which is passed along my moving mass..
In my theory.. sound waves do NOT go through a vacum or a tunnel of emptyness.. but it will however OPEN a certain time/space "hole" by distorting molecular space... in which the hole opens the sound can then go through the hole.. from Plane 1 to Plane 2.. the travel in Plane 2 for a while.. and go back to Plane 1.. Plane 2 is not a tunnel but a parallel universe..

take it like this... to pick up or get a piece of coin burried under a pile of grain.. you need to shuv your hand to get it right? in the process the grain makes way for your hand to get to the coin..

Same logic as my theory.. Soundwaves pushes molecular space appart to open a 'hole' :)

and yeah.. im sure this is debatable as any Quantum Physics theories.. so yeah.. hehe

That's almost precisely what I was trying to say, though just with a slightly different method.

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Originally posted by s0nIc
take it like this... to pick up or get a piece of coin burried under a pile of grain.. you need to shuv your hand to get it right? in the process the grain makes way for your hand to get to the coin..

Same logic as my theory.. Soundwaves pushes molecular space appart to open a 'hole' :)

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Uhm... You COULD shape sound waves to open a hole, but only by vibrating mass away from an area... in other words, a vacuum. The hole you'd get would not be transdimensional or anything.

At the Hong Kong Science Museum they had a sound exhibit with big clear long tube half-full of little round styrofoam spheres (about the size of a BB). On one end, there was a mesh opening, at the other, a speaker. When you turned the speaker on the 'constant hum' setting, the styrofoam balls would actually start to move and create little hills and valleys. Turning it up higher could even cause you to get peaks with the top consisting of a wall (perpendicular to the direction of the pipe) five balls high and one thick.

In that case, sound DID push the matter out of the way (Air was still present, however), I mean, it shows sound can influence the macroscopic arrangement of matter, but it doesn't "break" any laws (or any dimensional fabrics... or dimensional quilts, scarves, or buttons, for that matter.)

I think what you're talking about is actually taking a pile of grain, sticking your hand in, and having your hand come out a mile away from another pile of grain.

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I think what you're talking about is actually taking a pile of grain, sticking your hand in, and having your hand come out a mile away from another pile of grain.

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exactly.. but see.. all we have to do is to use sound waves to influence space itself to open not a tunnel.. but a window..

same logic as ermm.. pumpin up your radio and opening the window.. and the ppl outside the house can hear your music.. same as my theory.. use soundwaves open a window and can be heard in Plane 2... then from plane 2 you open another window to Plane 1 and you can hear the sound again in Plain 1 but from a different location... :)

but like i said.. its just a theory.. hehehe very debatable...

okay...

on the rate at which sound waves diffuse...

take a gander at the Sound Reinforcement Handbook written for yamaha by Gary Davis and Ralph Jones

isbn-0-88188-900-8

trust me on this one, I'm a guitarist good insight in dat book!!

~THEJRC~

as promised, here is the alternate theory to gravity.

first a little note, scientists can not prove that gravity exist. They can only measure it's effect on things. Einstien's best explanation on gravity was a bowling ball on a bed, a heavy object bending space. Some scientists even discuss it in multiple dimensions. but could gravity be an optical illusion?

Let me explain this in a simple form. For this simplistic view we will set up a hypothetical universe. Imagine that in this universe, there are only two objects. You and a planet size sphere, which you are standing on. In this hypothetical universe, there in no gravity. At least not in the convention way, meaning all objects are attracted to each other. The only rule here is that all objects are constantly doubling in size. You wouldn't notice the doubling, because you and the ball would both remain in the same proportions. You wouldn't feel you matter doubling any more than you feel your atoms activity now. (you don't feel your cells dying, nor do you feel the earth spinning around the sun at a high velocity. Thus the doubling is possibly without notice.) The only effect you would see is the supposed gravity. The balls growth would be constantly pushing against you and you against it. If you tried to jump away from the ball, there would be a momentary space created, but the doubling will fill the gap instantly. No gravity, it would just look and feel like it. Visually it would seem that the ball has more "gravitational pull" than you do, because you seem to be attracted to it and not it to you. This corresponds with our current view of gravity. Imagine a bowling ball and a marble. Double them both in size. The marble would look like a marble, but the bowling ball would seem huge. Larger objects when doubled, seem to have a larger impact in relation to smaller objects. Thus, the illusion that bigger objects have more gravity. Now move this hypothetical universe to our own. The only new rule you would need to add to this for the Expanding Matter Theory to work, and that is a universe where all the planets are moving awy from one and other. It appears our universe is expanding. There really isn't anything that stops this from working.

This theory was persued by one physicist a few years back. But he had no luck, since this could not be proven experimentally and because he was a "heretic" for challenging the conventional views of the universe. Wasn't there some guy named Copernicus who got killed for making the "radical" claim that the sun was the center of our galaxy? But wasn't he right?