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For all those Australian's that lurk here, 60 minutes is showing a segment on Australian Online Security (or lack thereof) tonight. I think it's on around 7pm on channel 9...check your guides! I would assume it's all the usual stuff such as our friend Sub7, keyloggers etc....
Also, there's a small article on tonights program HERE....
Good post Conf1rm3d_K1ll... Im personally not from Australia but I am interested in anything having to do with computer security... Whats your opinion on Australia's Online Security?
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Originally posted by ac1dsp3ctrum
Whats your opinion on Australia's Online Security?
We still have a long way to go, that's for sure. It's more a case of people just being unaware of how vulnerable they are rather than lacking the ability to protect networks.
For an example- A neighbour asked me to come down and have a look at her PC. She said it was "acting funny"...She was running Win 98, totally unpatched, no firewall and with no virus protection at all. This was a box that was used to run a business! LOL....Her kids were on it constantly downloading mailbombers, nukers and all that kind of fun stuff. After a quick look around I discovered the old school trojan, NETBUS....
So there you go. It's more peoples unintentional ignorance than anything else.
Thanks for the info Conf1rm3d_K1ll, I'll be tuning into that - would be very interesting to see what they say. I also think that we have a long way to go in security here in Aus - most PC users (especially home users) don't even think about it.
Greg
well as my profile says.. i am in sydney.. and yeah.. i heard about that news.. as a matter of fact i heard about it on monday.. and i was a bit pissed off coz i was planning to e-mail 60 minutes and talk about computer security to them and how we can improve the computer security here in australia and probably the world.. but too bad some bugger beat me to it.. so yeah.. now im just waiting to see what the guy is gonna say or talk about and hope it is correct and not very missleaing.. coz the main reason why i wanted to send that e-mail and do a special with 60 mins coz there are alot and i mean A LOT of missleading information presented by the media about computer security.. and what i wanted to do is to clear things out.. but yeah.. i hope this "person" who beat me to it would explain and make things clearer now.. and i pray that this special wont make matters worse.. as it is already.
Well, just as we suspected, it was the usual piece of crap normally put forward by the media..and surprise surprise, they used a trojan! LOL It was the ever faithful NetBus....
The show started of promising but then when they started to play scences from Swordfish I lost interest...Poor job 60 minutes.....
I forgot to add that they displayed the poor victims IP number in the scan field of NetBus and they also showed AstaLavista's homepage. I don't think they actually displayed the name but anyone who visits the site would recognise it instantly....
lmao.. i can never agree with you less... bloody media.. they even barely scratched the surface.. i was very disappointed after watching it.. oh well i guess am back to ma mission.. to show the world the TRUTH.. stupid media..
I was also disappointed. I was expecting them to actually show an example of something more technical, rather then just the old NETBUS program. They then went on saying that a firewall and visus scanner isn't enough, but in their example - a firewall and virus scanner would be enough. Every virus scanner will prevent the NETBUS trojan from being installed and warn the user.
Very dissapointed,
Greg
I was in the 60 minutes chat room and well im sad to say that there wasnt much i can do.. our only hope now is this e-mail i am going to send to them, hopefully they would listen to us now.. :(
I was gonna go to the chatroom, but ninemsn was down for me when I tried accessing. What was discussed in the chatroom??
Greg
It seems it was a good thing that I was too lazy to walk over to the TV to watch it then.....
There is nothing worse then when TV shows such as 60 Minutes cover something such as this, and they do a piss poor effort...
All those 40 year old technophobes, who check their email, and were blissfully unaware of things going on around them... will now have woken up.. but the information they will have gotten will be very poor, and out of date... NetBus? Does anyone even still host that crap?
Beware, all you youngsters..... now when the technophobes find out that you know a lot about computes... there will not be the awed (yet slightly angry respect) that there normally was... there will be ph34r!!!!!
What a dissapointing story. For a minute i thought ACA would show something updated and real like they usually do, but they didn't. Now were gonna start hearing about all these l337 h4x0rs around oz, just becuase they know how to use the programs ACA showed us. Geeez...and if only the media would stop using the term hacker in a bad way. I'm still waiting for a show that tells the truth about the hacker culture.
I reckon! I mean the first think they said was something along the lines of, '...cyber-terrorists and hackers...'. I mean if that's what people are gonna be hearing, ofcourse they are gonna associate the word 'hacker' with someone who is breaking the law and using computers to wreak havoc!Quote:
Geeez...and if only the media would stop using the term hacker in a bad way.
If you ask the majority of new computer users (and even some experienced ones) who a hacker is, I'm sure they will start telling you how bad these people and that they should be put in jail.
Greg
Exactly what i meant! And now that ACA has shown this story, many script kiddies are gonna be going to their friends showing off that they too use netbus... just like on ACA!
geez..stop glorifying the SC and crackers. Learn the real meaning of hacker.
btw news flash boys.. i will be e-mailing this thread to 60 minutes to show them what "feed back" they got from our community...
Yes thats a good idea! And tell them that we are all very disgusted Australians that are dissapointed in their projection of a hacker. Or maybe you won't have to tell them, i hope they read this themselves.
I like the story on afghanistan!
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i dont know.. but i have a feeling after i press the "send" button.. there is no turning back..
but yeah.. i just have that feeling..
nothing serious really.. just one of those "what will i do if my computer gets hacked?" and ermm.. "Does our ISP knows about these hackers and what are they doing about it?"Quote:
I was gonna go to the chatroom, but ninemsn was down for me when I tried accessing. What was discussed in the chatroom??
u know.. the usual "regular user" questions.. but yeah.. the person aswering their questions did answer them correctly which is a good thing..
So what exactly are you planning on sending them s0nIc? And, have you sent it already?
Greg
yeah i have.. i sent them MY feed back.. and the link to this thread and told them how they even barely scracthed the surface.. there are LOTS to talk about.. and all they did was scare the public by doing that NetBus stunt on national television.. they didnt even discuss on how users can protect themselves...
heh being in the uk I didn't see it but it sounds like a Mtv speacil they did on hacking ages ago - they had like some 12yr old kid using Sub7 and another who had suppousdly stolen some secret gov files but when it panned back a bit you could see that all he was doing was typing dir at the command prompt so that lots of nice text kept rapidly filling his screen - I nearly laughed till I cried at that :)
its the media i tell u... lolz one of our adversaries is ignorance.. and the media is full of it! lolz
valhallen, nah i think thats a different show. This was the aussie version of a current affair, with an australian narator and all i think.
damn..someone's got pms today. Why'd i get antipoints for that? i was just 'saying'.
geeez
There was an interesting post in this morning's Australian along this sort of line.
http://australianit.news.com.au/arti...nbv%5E,00.html
Check it out =)
Which do you think is the most secure country on the internet....?
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posted: Today 03:54 PM
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Which do you think is the most secure country on the internet....?
Hmmm....I guess the most "secure" country on the I-net would be the country not on the I-net.
Ducks as rotten vegetables and other asundry items get flung.:jack: