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here is an interesting article. the article claime that the countries mentioned are not legitimate targets, but a large scope to cover all the bases.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/03/10/nuc...ons/index.html
china
russia
iraq
iran
north korea
not a nice list of people.... china alone would eat the us alive. good move by our "fearless leader"
>>not a nice list of people
you are right about that
why is this list open for all to see??
I was wondering that my self when they made the announcement on TV. I don't think that this information should have been released to the mainstream public, let alone viewable by every one of those countrys. Smooth move, eh? Making a list of possable future 'targets' and then releasing that information. Good move, we can all thank the L.A. Times and CNN for that one..
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Actually, you can thank your gouvernment for that... and by the way, I think the list is fake: Redmond isn't on it ;)
Well, i suppose they are at fault also. I think it may be a fake as well. Why else would the US release that sort of information? BTW, why would Redmond be listed?
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:fpissed: even so if it was real then these people are stupis as what do we think these coutnries are going to do. Sit back and se what happens, i don't think so they will try to attack first if anything happens :3pow: :borg:
hehe australia aint their well i could c it heheh]go australia were like coacroches *spelling we just never go away and eventually we will rile the world
RiOtEr
I think with what China is doing selling weapons of mass dis. to N.korea,Iran and other countries On Bush trip to China thay refused to stop,the U .S. is getting 90 % off our goods made in China. Our big corp. then they dowm sise here & we have 100.000 s out of work. Its big business& $$$ today ,I keep a close eye on whats going on. I think Bush is just getting ready & letting these rogue nations Know it. Im a lot more HAWK then DOVE. Be nice but, carry a big stick, Dont forget we support over half of the world, but its never enough. I belive charity begins at home, then if you have any thing left help your neibor!! I have very strong feelings about these things.
Rust Never Sleeps....
In other words, there is nothing saying that we are planning on attacking these countries with nuclear weapons. It is a list of countries that, if they attacked us, we would retaliate with nuclear power. Sending a bunch of patriot missles at China isn't going to do anything. They have been creating these lists for years. This is just the first time that the list went public. I am sure that any nation on the list that has any form of secret intelligence, already knew they were on the list.Quote:
nuclear weapons could be used against targets able to withstand non-nuclear attack, in retaliation for attacks by nuclear, biological or chemical weapons
the reason it was released is to "scare" the countries on the list... of course now that this could start ww3 i think that is dumb. i don't think it is fake. it makes a lot of sense that we would target those countries... most communist nations and such. i heard cuba was somewhere on the list as well, but am not so sure.
This list was released because of a Congresional mandate, that the US Updates its general targeting guidelines...
The real list is not public, and very specific about where and what conditions would apply to allow the US to use tke nukes.
God I hate WAR
i think the list is not fake and that the list mostly contains anti-democratic countries and if they were ever bombed with nuclear war heads they would get a pretty hated response from other countries, democratis and non-democratic.
Ya'll forget that nukes are a deterent, that's the way the U.S. gov't views them, as does most of the nuke capable countries. Obviously that list is somewhat bogus. It's probably more of the gov't intimidation tactics in the *booming voice* WAR ON TERRORISM *booming voice*. It makes sense to release non-specific information about the possiblity of nukes. Scare you into complying.
No wonder these countries are pissed with the U.S. How can you get along with another nation when they have you on there list of countries we would like to nuke but can't because killing women and children looks bad.
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Originally posted here by cwk9
No wonder these countries are pissed with the U.S. How can you get along with another nation when they have you on there list of countries we would like to nuke
Good point. I personally see this list as a form of terrorism in itself.....Terrorising countries into submission. Very hypocritical when you're supposedly fighting a war against that sort of thing...
Agreed, but this type of"terrorism" doesn't cause lives to be lost and it's used as a deterent. So in that respect it's a good thing....wouldn't you say. Keep in mind these aren't favorable countries to the U.S. It's definitely a case of mutual combatants.
Who's to say. Perhaps it's not going to cause any loss of life in the near future but throwing around nuclear threats could be responsible for huge loss of human life in later years. I'm sure countries such as China wont easily forget such threats.Quote:
Originally posted here by KorpDeath
Agreed, but this type of"terrorism" doesn't cause lives to be lost
Wasn't George Bush just visiting China (all smiles and handshakes) thanking them for their "anti terrorist" support? Once again......it reeks of hypocrisy..
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Exactly....IMHO the "war on terrorism" is more a war on countries that won't bow down to US pressure and prefer to think and act on their own behalf rather than have some self imposed "national ruler" control them. If this truly was a war on terrorism bombs would be falling on Northen Ireland.. Anyway, just my opinion....like an *******, everyone has one. ;)
God the ignorance of political warfare.
U.S. pressure for what? We've been helping these countries out right and left. It's nice to look at all the bad that the U.S. does and never look at all the help we give out. It just goes to show that perception is everything. This is not the first time this list has been done. It's nothing new, every year they do this. It just so happens that with the "war on terrorism" going on that makes this "hot" news. And ya'll get up in arms about it, but the truth of the matter is, it's nothing new.Quote:
Originally posted here by Conf1rm3d_K1ll
Who's to say. Perhaps it's not going to cause any loss of life in the near future but throwing around nuclear threats could be responsible for huge loss of human life in later years. I'm sure countries such as China wont easily forget such threats.
Wasn't George Bush just visiting China (all smiles and handshakes) thanking them for their "anti terrorist" support? Once again......it reeks of hypocrisy..
Exactly....IMHO the "war on terrorism" is more a war on countries that won't bow down to US pressure and prefer to think and act on their own behalf rather than have some self imposed "national ruler" control them. If this truly was a war on terrorism bombs would be falling on Northen Ireland.. Anyway, just my opinion....like an *******, everyone has one. ;)
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"Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was." -The Talking heads
You know, Back at UF while the whole "I'm President!" "No, I'm President!" thing was going on, we used to joke that if Bush did get it that we would go to war. And we even extended it as far as saying he was going to take over the world. Well, I think if this list is accurate, we were all right. I'm one for conspiracies. I think the bush family is hell bent on turning this world into one government. Notice that none of the countries on the list has a democracy? Interesting.
And I think all these countries already had a pretty good idea we were watching them. Anyone remember the presidential plane we (boeing) sold to , I think China, that had more bugs on it than M$. They all know.
I hate war too.
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It's nice to look at all the bad that the U.S. does and never look at all the help we give out.
What help!? How did the US help North Korea? By declaring war because of the "great communist threat"??? The same way THEY helped Vietnam? How have THEY helped China? By crashing their spyplanes and refusing to apologise for killing a Chinese pilot? Droping the odd relief package in a war zone does not constitute "helping out"...Have a look alot what the sanctions against IRAQ are really doing. Hurting the innocent people (women and children) whilst the Dictators still prosper. The US didn't go to war against IRAQ to help the people of IRAQ and liberate Kuwait. It was all about oil fields and chasing the buck.....
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This is not the first time this list has been done. It's nothing new, every year they do this.
So they knock up this list every year and then wonder why they are the target for every terrorist group in the middle east...
I in no way support terrorism.....that's why I can't support US policy....It's just terrorism in a suit and tie with a nice smile and friendly handshake..............
whenever i see a 'government release' of infomation, i have to ask myself what respone will this raise and what will this response lead too.
this list surprises none of our enemys but it does surprise the american people who are still shocked and angry over sept 11. those who are shocked over talk of the us using nukes, and speak against it, will be forced to deal with the idea of others using wepons of mass destruction against us, making the threat very real to them. How can this benifit anyone? bush wants to arm america to the max. why not, thats his fathers buissness, the carlyle corporation. not that i want to see the us disarmed but its good to look at the big picture.
too cut this short, this release, IMHO, is meant to make it easy for bushs defense budget to pass.
Frankly, I live in the biggest shipping port city in the U.S., so when the ICBMs head this way...I won't have time to think about it:)
Ouroboros
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Frankly, I live in the biggest shipping port city in the U.S., so when the ICBMs head this way...I won't have time to think about it
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so i guess you'll really support bushs anti-ballistic missile system and vote to brake the treaty we signed against it.
i completely agree like what do they think they are doing. if america try to become friedns with china ohw the hell do tehy intend on doing it as China is on their nuke list. are they stupid? :confused: