do i need to learn c++ ?

been looking into the whole discussion of hacking and such.. started to program in VB and Java, wondered since unix is base on C , should i learn C++

any ideas

ta m,ucho

a very confused blokey

Any knowladge is good.

Well, if you want to really learn unix, then you should learn C. C and C++ are diffferent. C++ is easier, but like you said, unix is based on C.

I'd have to disagree with souleman here. He said that C++ is an easier language. It really depends what he means by "easier". I agree that to write complex programs it probably is (object orientated v's procedural) but to learn C is much much "easier" IMHO.

(But I might feel this way just because I learned C first and I am still much more familiar with it.)

Anyway, you should learn one of them cause they are still the most widely used languages.

P.s. if you are looking for tutorials or compilers or anything visit this site: A programers heaven. .

I have to agree with garathjax. C++ with it's whole object oriented approach is far more complex. Anyone that says they master object oriented programming totally is either a lier or haven't read enough on the subject.

If you have a good understanding of oo in Java you're one step closer to C++.

C++ is an amazing language.. i reccomend learning as much as you can about it

Well
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i think(don't comment on me) that it's totally true to learn as many programming languages as you desired~~~ but you need to (very or extremely) get use to one language(specific one that you can handle more then other)

one of my believes is that hacking requires team work~~unless someday every one turn against you~~so it's necessary to find a major language.



by the way~ C++ contains more of the "USER INTERFACE"(not sure the spelling) function then what C contains, which is fairy acceptable, i suggest you to learn alittle bit of C then go right into C++ if it's in Microsoft Windows stuff

but for Unix, there is only " C " language, so make sure your are learning "UNIX C"

i am trying to figure out the asm language right now, i don't even know why i am doing it~~ :D

Learn all that you can.... about every language you can. It will help out with the languages you use. Personaly attempted to learn C++ first but found it easier to handle when I decided it might be better to learn C first. IMHO learning C is a must and will make C++ easier.

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Originally posted here by souleman
Well, if you want to really learn unix, then you should learn C. C and C++ are diffferent. C++ is easier, but like you said, unix is based on C.

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i agree ... c for unix and unix for c ....

and if u r looking for programming .. i do recomend C .. very powerful...

Yeah, learn C++. No questions about it. and not only because Unix is in c/c++ but its an amazing language (somebody said that before...)

>>IMHO learning C is a must and will make C++ easier.
not IMHO its not neccessary to learn c first :)

yah, you should learn c++. it really helps. assembly lang can help too.

C++ is good to know, but not required. You can always learn Assembly and you're background in Java can help you get started on C/C++ in Unix. I actually learned Assembly before I did C, and it helped to teach me alot of how everything works together.

i'd go with c++. c is a great thing to know...very powerful...but outside of kernal hacking there really isn't anything you can do with it that you can't with c++.

If there’s one language to learn c++ is it. The best part about c++ unlike VB is that you can program for a whole range of OS's.

u have to learn it if u want to understand more about unix

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Originally posted here by freppley
been looking into the whole discussion of hacking and such.. started to program in VB and Java, wondered since unix is base on C , should i learn C++

any ideas

ta m,ucho

a very confused blokey

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If you're planning on being an auto mechanic, no, you probably
won't need to learn C or C++
:cool:

More knowledge equals more power! Go for it.

I'd suggest learning both C and C++...start with C though. C was the first language i learned and it wasnt difficult at all. so it shouldnt for you either, especially since you already know a few languages already.

If you learn C then C++ will be alot easier for you to learn,guaranteed.
After you learn those two you should learn assembly and perl.
With those 4 languages you will be able to land a very lucrative job offer
somewhere.
I just started learning perl ,it's a scripting language but it's one of the best
IMHO. Perl is really great for scripting,the things that you can do with perl
are really awesome.

Programming is great it builds character and most definatly teaches you to have patience
because if you dont have any patience you need to stay away from programming.

Crimina1