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Are all the lost jobs coming back? Will the industry recover and continue to add more. It makes you think, since the startups have mostly failed and the big boys are suffering some. Maybe there will be some new wonder product that will stimulate the world economy and get everyone back on their feet again.
your comments?
I dont know...I just want a job where i'm able to bring my nerf gun into work someday soon.
What lost jobs, OK the millenium bug was not all we hoped from it but I heard that since sept. last year the IT jobs are increasing rather then decreasing.
If U ask me, there will be a growing need...
But a need for real ITers, not Microsoft Patchers.....
I think the Industry as a whole is slowly starting to bounce back. What I am hoping for is more focus on security by the Industry and by Management (whoever they are). I find that there is still a lack of attention to this and it will get worse before it gets better.
But that's just me.
I think we should return to an all paper society. down with computers. Down with electricty in general. Long live the candle. Whos with me?
I am my amish friend. My candle fell in my neckbeard and then into the butter i was churning. Down with candles too.
mgmt is slowlying starting to wake up to the issues on security but sadly, most of their budgets have dried up in the last year.
I'll be done collage next year so hopefully I can start looking for a job while the IT industry is on the up swing.
soulman i am with you all the way
Where I live there is plenty of IT work that needs doing but no one is prepared to pay for it. I think that this is the case in a lot of other places as well. There are a number of reasons for this. In my opinion, one of them is the fact that a lot of companies (even some of the large ones) are not taking enough responsibility for their actions.Quote:
Are all the lost jobs coming back? Will the industry recover and continue to add more. It makes you think, since the startups have mostly failed and the big boys are suffering some. Maybe there will be some new wonder product that will stimulate the world economy and get everyone back on their feet again.
your comments?
It is not ethical to release software that doesn't perform to the satisfaction of the customer. It does not matter if the software is a simple mail client or an entire operating system. IT professionals must start taking responsibility for their actions if IT is to be recognised as a profession on par with, say, law or medicine. If a doctor makes a mistake, issues the wrong medication and makes a person ill for example, he/she is accountable for their actions. There are procedures in place so that person can be counselled and future mistakes of this kind can be minimised. Why should IT professionals be treated any differently?
I am not suggesting that the ethical conduct of people in the IT industry is the sole reason for the lack of employment oportunities in IT. But this is a contributing factor. If clients could be reasonably sure that the products they cough up the money for are going to be of a high quality, perhaps there would be less hesitancy to employ more IT workers?
Well I’m just about to start a course in September. The course is 4 years in total 3 years in education, 1 year in industry, the year in industry is between the second and third year of the course. The idea of the first 2 years is a very intense learning curve where you learn both theories and application. You should end up coming out of the first to years of education with skills in Programming, Hardware, Law related to computer, Mathematics, specify uses of technology (i.e. internet and networks), business, network and system administration as well as development (both software and hardware), also they encourage the use of Mac and pc as well as a multitude of OS platforms. The idea is that after the very intense 2 years (week averages out at 40 hours of tuition) the student i.e. myself has a very broad base and in so can go into any area of the industry, the industry year is a placement year they encourage you to go into as many areas as you can without making you time in each too short to understand the job, it a balance thing. Once you have don this year you third year of education is totally open in that you can specialise in any area of computing you wish to, or multiply areas form your experience in the third year of education.
This course is new in fact only 2 year old the idea is to produce computer students that have a range of basic skills in most areas and specific higher level skill in other. This is to try and produce IT professional that can work in many areas or the areas where the definition of the 2 jobs blur. Looking at the IT processional world there is a call for this type of professional with it moving so fast this basic knowledge in all areas allow in theory at least the IT professional to move fluidly with the evolution of technology. This is where I think IT is going. In time you will not have the rigid definition of you IT job but a few areas you work in and a team, each member of the team having basic skill in all areas required for the company/organisation, each member of the team will specialise in different areas, so the workload will be fluid and dynamic within the team. That is what this course is aiming to create, within the third year of education you have a team project as well as your personal one, each of you in the team work tighter but each have different specialisations and the team is set a problem that may arise with the industry to solve tighter. More and more education institutes appear to be going this way in.
Kindred69
Not an expert of course, but it seems to me that technology keeps on growing and expanding. Don't know about the short term, but it seems to me that long term IT will keep on expanding. More and more people are becoming computer literate and growing accustomed to advanced technologies. The companies that create and maintain these technologies will need people to build and run them. :)
I agree with what preacherman481 said...that there are more people who are becoming computer literate. The problem becomes one of having a lot of IT/IS people entering the market (for big bucks mostly) who have experience in a certain facet of the industry (Oracle, UNIX, Win2K, etc) - but have little to no knowledge in how to secure their entire enterprise. People may be experts in Oracle or Unix, but how many people know how to secure the entire organization (from router and firewall to desktop)? Or at least have an understanding of what the component does?
Hmmmm...I wonder what that could be. Hopefully someone will invent something. I mean imagine if we didn't have the internet, how would life be then? I'm guessing it would be a lot different.Quote:
Maybe there will be some new wonder product that will stimulate the world economy and get everyone back on their feet again.
But what else can there be? Have we ran out of things to invent? I'm sure in the future (hopefully the near future) we will have some great new invention (or wonder product, as gold eagle says) that will create more IT jobs and raise the whole industry up above all expectations. :)
Greg
smirc - Most of us agree with IT shops taking responsibility for their work. Except that group in Redmon. Wonder product? How about a computer type of unit that does your daily planning and talks to you.
the_Jinx - not sure which part of the world you live in but some areas have lost hundreds of thousands of workers - often a large percentage IT types in the last year.
Hmm...what about a PDA or Pocket PC? They can plan your day no worries, that's what they wre designed to do. They can play MP3's now, so I'm sure you could make them talk to you.Quote:
Wonder product? How about a computer type of unit that does your daily planning and talks to you.
I dunno, how about wireless Internet? I know, it's kinda already out in someplaces, like airports, but I was thinking EVERYWHERE. So wherever you go, you could be connected with your Palm or PocketPC. Just like a mobile phone, but with the net as well. I know you can have WAP now, I got WAP, but it ain't nothing special.
What I'm thinking is have your Palm/PocketPC with everything a PC has now. You got your browser, IM clients, etc. All the things you normally use. I mean if they get the technology right, which I think they kinda have, except it would need to take a lot more bandwidth and be cheaper, it would really take off. I think that's where it's going...slowly...
I really don't know what else could be a new invention. Hmm...maybe I'll try hard and think of something. Would be good to invent something...oh yeah, money...nice house...nice car. :d
Greg
Well, as for here in Houston, our economy is sucking the big one. (See Net_Syn's condom tutorial) Of course we have the whole Enron ordeal. Not to mention all the cuts with Continental and lets not forget about the Compaq/Hp Merge. So basically Houston got the shaft.
However, I was watching the news this morning and it had mention something about some huge Technology Comany coming to downtown, in the Enron building.(Currently Occupied by the FBI.) So I see the Information Technology profession booming in the next 5 years on a wide scale, not only here in Houston.
DR toker - Maybe they can hire some of the people who lost their jobs at enron and work in the same building. I hope that happens. I knew some enron staff.
There are still a lot of IT jobs out there that go unfilled. The biggest problem is management budgets. IT isn't getting paid like it did 1.5 years ago, so people are not taking the jobs. I know about 10 different people I graduated with that are not working in IT, because they don't want a computer bassed job that pays less the 35k per year. Recently, I saw 20+ IT jobs in my area available, but all paid 20k to 25k per year, and computer geeks don't want to work that cheap.