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When I'm logging in every morning, I wade through about 50 posts that are just plain worthless. The topic starter post is usually given plenty of negative antipoints for the stupidity of the post.
My humble suggestion is the possibility of having the post's antipoint meter somewhere in the forum list so you can see if a thread was started with many many negatives or not. That would keep us from opening idiot posts.
Just a thought
Good idea, I've also been thinking this. I think I've suggested this previously but got no replies.
Ahh, nice idea. I could really use that as well sometimes, although often I actually like to see what stupid questions some people ask. Remember, ya gotta start somewhere, and these newbs are only the bottom of the totem. Either way, I like you're idea.
After a while, you get to the point where you recognize the names of the person that started the thread, and know weather or not the thread is worth opening.
I agree that eventually you'll get to know who posts crap and who doesn't. And sometimes I would like to see what crap they're posting...but this gives a little help when you have a vague topic and a name you don't know...plus, if there's like a 12 hour span (I know it's a crime...) where you're not here, it helps when sifting though 300 new messages which ones are good to read and which ones you can skip till later.
I still think it's cool, dangit. :)
I didn't say it wasn't cool, I just like to play the instigator ;) But I am sure you have been here long enough to know that by now....
.begin sarcasm. You, an instigator? I'd have never guessed. .end sarcasm.
At least it gives you a good way to weed out the nitwits before you have to download the text of 50 flames. As much fun as they are, they're just slow as balls.
Or, for those who enjoy flaming (Where's Terr and Negative?)...this is basically a "bulls-eye" system for them...makes it easier to track down easy targets.
Hey, don't foget NetSyn, he is always pretty good at flaming also.
Although, I think that It should say Flame Master under Negative's name, instead of Cosmos Moderator and Tutorials Moderator.
Why stop there. Maybe after a certain number of negative antipoints a thread could stop showing up on the main page.
How would the "Masters of the Flame" find it? This is a bulls-eye system for them. Heck, if anything they (Terr, Neg, Netsyn) should have popups to quick-launch those threads for easy access!
As for me, it would be just an easy way to ignore the kiddies when I'm looking for something worth my time to read.
Maybe instead of hiding the thread after so many antipoints...maybe it could auto-lock? That way only a few good flames would be there and I wouldn't have to download every one. (I don't mind flames, just the cheesy one liners that just don't do no justice)
only downside to this idea is the abusers of the antipoints. cause some threads i have seen with negatives that just didn't deserve it. they were normal posts and not stupid questions. besides, the title of the post should give you some idea what it's about...
Yeah, If the title says l337 AOL hax0r needed you know that the post will be flamed.... Its a good idea though, I just dont know how JP will integrate it into the site... Maybe have one small dot near the thread title to show whether the user who posted the thread has been given negatives or posetives :)
I would like to se this come into effect. Hope JP decieds to because its a good idea.
Kindred69
A good idea, although I enjoy reading the crappy posts because it gives me the opportunity to practise flaming and also laugh at the newbie whom Terr, Negative et al have flamed. They'd have a field day on Usenet. :D
After reading about 30 posts asking for help with 'an assignment' to hack AOL this would get my vote.
I think I like AcidS's implimentation idea of a single dot representing the aggregate antipoints for all responses to the post. Posts with x+ positive antipoints could receive a /shiny/ greenie and be automatically elevated to the current thread list on the homepage. Threads with a negative antipoint aggregate, or those started by users with negative antipoints could then be safely moved to a seperate 'flamers' forum, where those with an inclination could go to poke fun at the script-kiddies.
I recently had a pm conversation with proactive (about a tutorial I wrote: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=226730 ) and I think his comments are relevant here...
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I must say I liked your scripting tutorial, actually it's one of the better I've read in AO in quite a while. Which leads to a reply on your comment:
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'Maybe If I had called it "how to hack search engines, bash Include files from an IIS install and circumvent MS OCX licencing restrictions" I would have got a better response, but as it is it has been posted since saturday and I still only have one anti point lit under my avatar :('
Sadly, the knowledge level of most AO users is't very high. I can tell you you would have gotten more replies and antipoints by submitting a joke or an easy-to-understand article from the Register. So I guess your tutorial is just too advanced for the regular AO user.
That said, there are a few experts on the board who really know what they're talking about. But you have to watch carefully, because the real gems often dissappear in the rather huge amount of uninteresting posts.
I think it's a very good idea. How about rather then have the antipoint bar on the front page, just have like a simple symbol to tell you how the thread is going in terms of antipoints. For example:
Antipoints in the forum title (+)
Antipoints in the forum title (-)
Antipoints in the forum title (0)
This is very simple to implement (I think) and you wouldn't have to shuffle the front page to fit the antipoint bar in. Also, I always use the AO ticker - http://www.antionline.com/ticker.php - and the antipoint bar wouldn't show up there, cos it's a graphic, but something as simple as a little plus, negative or 0 could easily show up in the ticker.
Anyways, good idea mate,
Greg
I liked hot_ice's idea. There isn't actually even need for displaying the zero. It would just look like this:
Antipoints in forum title (+) Today at 12:46 PM
Topic Started By: jezter6 | Last Reply By: hot_ice
Thread Is In: Site Suggestions | Total Replies: 15
Maybe even the + should be made as a link, would then tell the exact amount of AP's. Or not. ;)
i hope you guys realize I wasn't talking about this info on the "home" page, but more in the forum lists you get when you click on "general chit chat" and "newbie questions". I think this might clutter the home page window, but in some other form would be really cool.
hmmm....
It could stop posting on main page when it's moved to the doh!! forum...Quote:
Why stop there. Maybe after a certain number of negative antipoints a thread could stop showing up on the main page.
Then people could choose when to read the flame wars and dipstick musings. ;)Quote:
although I enjoy reading the crappy posts because it gives me the opportunity to practise flaming and also laugh at the newbie whom Terr, Negative et al have flamed.
now that does sound like a good use for it ;)Quote:
Or, for those who enjoy flaming (Where's Terr and Negative?)...this is basically a "bulls-eye" system for them...makes it easier to track down easy targets.
v_Ln
Greetings All:
The problem with this, is that AntiPoints are assigned on a post-by-post basis, not on a thread-by-thread basis.
So, while the first post may have been a stupid waste of time, often I've found that later down in the thread users will post helpful and meaningful things.
So, in other words, don't judge a thread by its starter.
I appreciate the suggestion though.