Exercise (Need Advice)

We all wanna look good...
We all wanna feel good...
But 90 % of us are to lazy to give a **** ;)


I am lazy when it comes to exercise other then ur average walking and stuff. The only thing i do Exercise out of the ordinary is when i play roller hockey for 4 hours a day 2 days a week. It leaves me tired and cramped and dehydrated and all...

I really feel i need to get into better shape and i am probly going to start going to the gym and crap or just doing more Exercise i was just curious if any of you have any suggestions

I just bought that thingy everyone sees on TV that moves ur muscles for u with electric cause i heard from a few people i know that it does really help and its worth try money...


Does anyone have any personal success storys and how they did what they did


I know this has nothing to do with security but it is a legit topic in general and better then the avrg "how to hack *Insert Word*" you usuaully see


Thanx all that help ;)

_NetSyN_

I dropped 25 pounds in a month and a half by just cutting my meal portions in half and running two miles a day during the week. I take the weekend off so I can drink. (drinking and running don't go together, unless you like to chum.)

Well, Netsyn, it depends on your goals. Apparently you are in pretty good shape, if you play roller hockey for four hours at a time. I would say for you, just trying to not be winded and miserable when you get done with that, you might try jogging, or even just roller blading on a daily basis. Just work on building your stamina, and increasing the distance of your daily jaunts. I walk about 3-5 miles a day, and it has made a major improvement in the way I feel. However if you want to build muscle, and start weight lifting, you would need to talk to someone else, cause I don't have any idea about that stuff.

Deb :D

P.S. For the rest of you couch potatoes out there...did you know that a person who is obese, yet exercises, is twice as healthy as people who are at their target weight and don't exercise? It's important folks, even if it sucks....lol!

If you want to bulk up in addition to losing weight, Try this:
Do cardio excercises on Tuesdays and Thursdays and on the weekends if you're truly motivated.
On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays lift weights. Create a program for yourself, and follow it religiously. DON'T DEVIATE! If you change your program, you'll get confused and lopsided(he he). Also, don't lift weights every day. if you do, your muscles wont have any time to grow. It is the repetitive, straining motion that causes muscles to grow. Each time you excercise them, they get hundreds of little tears. It is the action of the tears healing that builds muscle. However, If you lift all the time, they don't have time to heal, and your muscles actually atrophy.

Good Luck.

-201

Yeah do what I did...join the Army. NO WAIT I DIDN'T SAY THAT.......please don't beat me

Eh, I've decided that it isn't worth the effort...I'll just get a well paying job and buy a pill for it.

I would suggest the same that 11001001 said. Although you can work out everyday. Just do legs one day and chest and upper body the next. Also you must start jogging, i would suggest at least 1 or 2 miles a day. I fyou need an extra boost look into getting a metabolic increaser line xenadrine or stacker. It will give you an extra boost to get you pushing your limits.

I would just quit eating 2 much(but who am I to give u advice...I'm as fat as a pig...).I didn't eat so much and I lost 20 pounds and then I quit that and got 20 pounds again

There are some "secret" techniques to getting thin. one way is to get a big batch of grapefruits a squeeze the juice from it. now, this is gross but substitute your breakfast and lunch with the raw juice and eat a big dinner of anything you want because the enzymes in the juice will burn all of the fat away in your stomach. my friend did this and lost 10 lbs. in a week. another way is to drink two glasses of water before each meal to fill your stomach so you don't eat as much. or just eat untill you arent hungry anymore, not untill you are full. these may not be healthy but if your about to play a big show in Hollywood and want to be
able to take off your shirt, it is the fastest way to lose wieght.

I find it easier to exercise with a friend because you both keep eachother's motivation up.

I have a few dance videos that teach you popular music video dances like N'Stink and whatnot, and even though I don't care for the music, it's upbeat and fun, and something to show off when you've mastered it...heh

As 11001001 you gotta tear muscle to build it up - but to tone get a light weight (one that you can lift with a slight strain) and do lots of reps this will help tone any exsisting muscle....as for getting fit a friend of mine who does marathon running sets out once a day from his house and just picks a direction :) he keeps jogging that way till he throws up then turns round and runs home....not healthy (or pleasent) but will get you fit quick

v_Ln

Exercise sucks there is no doubt, but to lose weight and feel better you gotta do it. Any exercise is better than none, and I agree if you do it with a friend you will stick to it better. When you lose some weight, say 5 lbs or whatever, treat yourself to something....not food, as a reward. In the long run you will see success.

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Originally posted here by 5150
There are some "secret" techniques to getting thin. one way is to get a big batch of grapefruits a squeeze the juice from it. now, this is gross but substitute your breakfast and lunch with the raw juice and eat a big dinner of anything you want because the enzymes in the juice will burn all of the fat away in your stomach. my friend did this and lost 10 lbs. in a week. another way is to drink two glasses of water before each meal to fill your stomach so you don't eat as much. or just eat untill you arent hungry anymore, not untill you are full. these may not be healthy but if your about to play a big show in Hollywood and want to be
able to take off your shirt, it is the fastest way to lose wieght.

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Okay, about the grapefruits, it's the skipping of breakfest and lunch, as opposed to enzymes, that are doing the work. Also, under normal conditions of physical activity, it is impossible to lose more than 10.5 pounds of fat per week, and that's if you at nothing. It works like this: Under normal conditions, the human body requires about 2000 calories per day. Each pound of fat is 3500 calories. So in order to loose a pound of fat, you have to have a "deficit" of 3500 calories. No grapefruit or miracle drug is going to increase that 2000 per day: You'll have to exercise (In an extreme example, a group of army guys hiking in -30 weather used about 10K calories per day)

In many of these "hollywood miracle diets" and the like, most of the weight lost is water, and not actually fat.

And don't get me started on that "low carb, high protein" POS (No one in their right mind could call that a balanced diet...the weight doesn't stay off once you stop dieting)

if your on blades 8 hours a week, id say you don't have worry about loosing weight. your legs must be incredibly strong. if your going to lift weights, try high weight, low reps. you get more than enough movement to cut it up, so work for strength. carb up before, high protein after. an excellent example of high reps, poor nutrition is a galley slave.

LOL well ever since I quit smokin cigs and at the time I realized that I had to start taking better care of myself.The only excercise I wanted to do was keyboard excercise and of course the other excercise you get from rasing a beer mug up but that was it. I decided to go granola and eat only food that was pretty much natural, I only drink water, most of the food I eat is pretty healthy for you. Oh yeah stop doing drugs they weren't meant for your body and they just **** it up more.

Just eat right and don't let so many artficial chemicals get in your body and you will notice results quickly.

HeyNetSyn:
Here is a plan that worked for me:
Week#1- Run a timed mile each and every day
Week#2-Increase the total distance run and have a faster time than last week.
Week#3-Same as week #2
Week#4-Same as week #2
Etc., etc., etc.
::jumpto::

I dont have time right now to type up a full and helpful reply, can you pm me with what goals your looking for, ie tonation, mass, general, strengh, I will get back and post here asap.

Kindred69

No probs mate, I got a perfect solution.

- Get a laptop if you do not have one.
- Get a backpack
- Get a stirdy wooden board
- Get some strong string
- Get an electric drill

1. Drill holes in the board somewhere
2. Chuck the backpack on
3. Tie the board to the backpack so it's parallel with the ground when the ground in front of you, waist height
4. Put the laptop on the board

That's it, now you are not bound to your desk, sitting all day in front of your computer eating fatty junk food. You can run around the house, run in the backyard, run around the block, you can do whatever you want with the computer right in front of you all the time. Cos your not sitting on your ass all day, you'll lose plenty of weight!!

NOTE: Theory has not been proven. Testing on animals is currently under way. May cause back problems. Not recommended.

:)

Greg

hot_ice, that's awesome!

The Problem Habits of My Daily routine

1) Get up 5am, no breakfast. Black Coffee, 2 ciggarettes.Very tired

2) Arive at work 6:30am, drink RedBull,More Coffee. Not so tired anymore
Sit at desk surfing the Internet, until 3pm

3) Still havent eaten. Ride Home, Smoke a joint. Sleep on the way home if not my day to drive the car pool. YES i car pool. Saves gas and pollution.

4) Arrive at home, finnally eat dinner with girlfreind.

5) Lay down on couch, watch TV. Smoke another Joint. Nearly fall asleep on couch.

6) Around 8:30pm become very awake! Get online/Sex depending on availablity of either.
Sometime I cant get on my dial up...sometimes I cant get on my girlfreind.LOL

7) Go to sleep....
===== Repeat

Nice routine Dr Toker. Wish I could do that... damn....

From what you have said I don’t think cardio vascular fitness will be much of a problem for yourself playing being on your blades for that amount of time that regularly should be enough for a general level of health in the cardio sense. However playing the same sport for a long time you body adapts, meaning that you will burn less calories and also not stress you heart so much to gain as much cardio benefit, perhaps try a cardio exercise that is different, many have suggested jogging, this IMO is an exercise that has many benefits but also many downsides, the main downside is the stress on your joints, specify your knees and ankles but that is my opinion. If you join a gym perhaps consider rowing, this is a great exercise in many ways, not only does it have great cardio benefits but because you use almost all your major muscle groups you will find it harder, because your leg muscles will be very use to the prolonged stress where you upper body less so. This is also a great exercise to use when starting weight training, for when you start out at least (see below for further explanation of why), the main benefits is that all you muscles will be craving blood meaning all you muscles will get warmed up. Speaking of that, the most likely reason for you discomfort after play is the build up of lactic acid, if you play for your session finish then go home all this acid is left in you muscles casing discomfort, a simply cool down time after, i.e. 10 stretching post the game/session will help move this lactic acid slightly, will not solve the discomfort but should help cut it down.


(note I speak of voluntary muscle groups i.e. biceps, not involuntary muscles i.e. cardiac tissue)
Moving on. There are three main energy systems that you muscles use, alactic anaerobic, lactic anaerobic, and aerobic. Now a lactic anaerobic (ATP/pc system) is fast very powerful strong contractions, explosive power, last a few seconds, lactic anaerobic less explosive, lasts longer no need for oxygen used within the first 20 second of exercise before you heart rate has increased enough to feed oxygen to the, muscles, once it has aerobic takes over lasting for the rest of the time. A note here whilst using aerobic energy system both alactic and lactic energy systems are still used, the a lactic is used for the sudden bust of speed/strength as long as the muscles have recycled there creatin stores, lactic anaerobic is used also to give you that more prolonged surge when you need it but at not time are you only using one energy system it just what energy system is taking most of the burden on energy production.

Your muscles are made up of muscle fibres, however all muscle fibres are not the same, depending on the energy system the muscle fibre is biases to using, depend on what type of muscle fibre the muscle is constituted of. There are about 5 classes of muscle fibres (am writing this off the top of my head so they might be less I cant remember for sure), though it mainly easer when considering fitness to think of there being 2 types, fast twitch, these use mainly lactic anaerobic and a lactic anaerobic, and slow twitch which use mainly aerobic. Every person has both fast and slow twitch fibres in every voluntary muscle group, the amount of these are set at birth, if you proportions are 40%-60% fast and slow twitch respectively then you will always have this approximate proportions, however remember I said that there are 5 types of muscle fibres, well this is where they can adapt, a slow twitch fibre can take on more fast twitch characteristics and vice versa, this is how you muscles adapt to regular stress placed upon them. Now fast twitch fibres are bigger thicker have more mass than slow twitch, hence if you look at a marathon runner they are not the size of a body builder, marathon runners muscles are adapted as best as they can to slow twitch because in a marathon that the energy system you use.

Ok theory lesson over, mostly. Depending on what you wish to gain form you exercise routine, depends on how you start and the general structure of your program. I’m going to mainly talk about weight training but will include some cardio at the end. Assuming that you new to weight training a good start for about 12-15 weeks would be something like this, day 1 cardio, day 2 weights, day 3 rest, day 4 cardio, day 5 weights, day six rest, day 7 weights. This allows 3 weight session in the week, with 2 days rest mostly(expect from day 7to day 2 though you can try to make as much time as possible between them to allow form muscle recuperation). Now during this 12-15 weeks I suggest you don’t use machines, but free weights, this is my opinion only some gyms agree with this some don’t. The things to remember is that free weights are more dangerous to start off with however they do have a great benefit. Machine are designed to force correct movement and tend to be very specific on the muscle , where free weights are still specific but they stress more muscle group because you have to support the weight as well and complete the movement, Ill take the bicep curl for example, with a matching you arms is based you take the bar which is on a system of pulleys , cams etc, you curl the bar up you arm can only move in one plane as the machine pull and cam system is only designed to move in that way, this is great for specific bicep development, do the same thing with a barbell, as you curl you have to hold your arms in place, you arms are free to move in any direction they wish, so you need muscle tension to hold your arm in position to get correct form. WEIGHT LIFTED IS NOT AS INPORTANT AS FORM. If you use a barbell you stress more muscles and strengthen muscles that you don’t on the machine. Free weights strengthen both the muscle you wish to as well as deeper muscles that you use to hold yourself in the correct position, such as rotor cuff muscle, is a deep muscle under the deltoid, many people find a weakness in there arm strength because this muscle which hold the joint in place is weak even though there superficial muscles, i.e. deltoids are very strong, this come form working on machines that are so specific to a muscle group they are good finishers, or pre fatigue exercises (this is where you fatigue a specific muscle so that when you use a multi-jointed movement that muscle fatigues first see below for further explanation). Having said all that sometime machine to start off with can be of benefit to get use to working your muscles, what it feels like to get a good strong contraction of the deltoid for example. This is up to you and your gym, some gyms will not let new members use free weight to start with due to the increase in risk. Now for the first 12-15 weeks I would also concentrate and laying down the foundations of a strong/fit body, you could try to get a beach body, work on your abs and arms during this time but in the long run it isn’t worth it. I suggest free weight movements that have a large range of motion and use more than 1 joint, i.e. barbell curls you bend you arm at only the elbow in so one joint used, 1 muscles group used, a squat you bend at the hips and the knees, therefore 2 joints more muscles used, more muscle groups, more supporting deep muscles used so more general muscle fatigue, strengthening you whole body instead of just this muscle group on that muscle group. I suggest that you include in all your training the squat, deadlift (ALWAYS use a weight belt),Full clean and jerk lift. These are some of the big multi-joint movements and wills strengthen your body, You don’t have to stick with just multi-joint just incorporate them into you routine. When lifting try and train antagonist pairs, don’t do one and not the other, i.e. if you train your bicep, train you triceps also. One of the most common mistakes I know off is when people train there abs, most people train there abs hard trying to get that six pack, washboard stomach but totally neglect there lower back, after a while they complain about lower back pain and cant figure out why. The reason they suffer is there abs have become a lot stronger than there lower back, all you lower torso support come form these 2 large muscle groups, because there back is not as strong as there abs the back muscle strain and fatigue trying to pull against the stronger abs, leading to the back fatiguing and the support loss and ensuing in lower back pain. Remember to keep balance. There are the basics of training with weights, after the 12-15 week period you can look at being more specific, perhaps splitting your routine as suggested into upper body one day, lower body another, when you wish to do that PM me and Ill pass on how I do my split if you want. Also if you get into it or hit a plateau PM me and I can pass on more advanced techniques such as super sets, giant sets and other tips to get over it, however you should not need these for a while.

Ok so now I have told you the general training tips , time to be more specific. If you can remember back to the beginning of the post(yeah I know I go on a bit) I spoke of energy systems and muscle fibres well bare that in mind for this section. If you looking to increase your strength though weight training then you want low reps, like 4-6 for 2 to 3 sets, the time between sets should be a few minutes. This is because strength you want explosive power, you want you muscles to contract as past as the can(power=speed*distance), the fastest contraction are when using alactic anaerobic, this system works on chemicals already in the muscle, the long time between sets allows the muscles you have there stores replenished. The low rep number is to ensure that this is the energy system you using mainly during your set. The weight you should use should allow you to be able to do 6 reps on the first set, 5/6 on the second and 4/5 on the last set. If you looking to tone up without putting on much muscle mass but increase definition , then 3 to four sets of 15 reps is what you looking at, with a weight you can lift the 15 reps on each set, also the time between sets should be shorter to use the alactic anaerobic energy system in the main. Finally if it mass you looking for you need to go in the middle about 10-12 reps for 3 sets, the time between not as long as the strength but longer that the toneing routine. On a side note when you progress to a more advantaged training routine be careful on the cardio you do before(ie the same day) either the strength or building routine it will effect your results.

Now cardio here is a arm chair calculation, 220-your age in year = theoretic max heart rate. The most efficient fat burning range is between 60-80 % of your maximum just a little guide to the heart rates you wish to be within when training cardio.

Finally(yes I do shut up eventually) a few tips and notes on nutrition. Balanced diet is essential, however note that I said diet not meals, work on balancing you diet daily not by the meal, also if you get into training in a big way 6 smaller meals compared to 3 larger ones will aid you goals, this is because you not overloading your body with food but in fact keeping a constant flow of energy and other biochemical’s within your system. Also hydration is very important, when your thirty you have already began to dehydrate, and once dehydration begins it take longer to get your body back into a running balance than if keep hydrated (most chemical reaction and process within the body have a dependence somewhere on osmotic pressure), take in fluids though working out and thought the day. Also post workout you have a golden hour, each a banana or 2 or something else that is high in both simple and complex cards you body will absorb them a lot faster during this time and help prevent soreness. Quick tips, up the stairs not the lift, park further from work, or even better ride into work if you have a place to change. There are many ways to increase your daily activity.



Well that’s it for now.

Kindred69

Just a quick tip on getting the 5 fruit and veg portions a day. A really easy way to boost your intake, without having to eat a ton of veg is real fruit milkshakes. If you use about 2/3 different fruits in the mix you take in 2/3 portions of you 5 portions a day. I use them as either part of my breakfast, or as my breakfast if im running late.

Kindred69

Some quick facts to hopefully help you out.

To build muscle, lift heavy weights with few repitions.

To tone muscle, lift light weights with many repitions.

Note that heavy, light, few, and many are subjective terms. Generally whatever is heavy or light to you is what you need to do.

To burn fat, increase your heartrate and maintain for a minimum of 30 minutes.

Your body will burn everything in your system before it burns fat (this is worse for women, their body maintains fat for procreation.) You have to have an accelerated heartrate for roughly 30 minutes before any existing fat will be removed from your body. Exercise programs that claim to do this in less than 30 minutes are complete bullshit. Note that fat cells are NOT removed from your body, they are simply drained of content, but the cell remains. This is why people who have lost weight can gain it back so quickly. The ONLY way to remove a fat cell from your body is surgery.

The key to a successful exercise program (among just about everything else) is motivation.

Some good ideas to help you stay motivated:

Choose an activity you enjoy, sounds obvious but many people try to do things that worked for other people. Whatever you choose, make sure you do it for at least a half hour at a time.

Use the buddy system. You and a friend can keep each other motivated. The key here is to find somebody who is at least as motivated as you are, or they will only slow you down.

Start with something you can handle, don't push yourself to do something that is too much too soon. This will only discourage you from continuing. If you feel you need to stop then stop.

A simple test to tell if your heart rate is at an appropriate level:

If you can not talk you need to slow down.
If you can talk, but not sing, you are doing well.
If you can sing you need to speed up.

Best of luck.

So what happens if you are like me, and can't gain any weight?

Yeah, we abused our bodies ... BUT - here's what you can do to drop some weight with no effort at all: stop drinking liquid sugar (e.g. soft drinks, sports drinks, etc.) and liquid fat (alcohol), and you'll see results.

Also, do NOT go on a really hard-core Atkins diet - I did this 2 summers ago and ran for 1/2 hour each night and hit the weights hard for 2 more hours nightly ... cut weight, felt tremendous ... and got gout from the purines.

On the bright side, at least I can't join the Army now... :/

~N~

PS: I hate you souleman. At present, that'd be a great 'problem' for me to have! :)

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