Bible code?

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May 7th, 2002, 07:46 AM
valhallen

Bible code?

This is kinda old news but as I ain't seen it in cosmos I thought I would bring it up.....
some of you may have heard of the code they have found in the bible which apparantly names people and events thousands of yrs after it was written

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The Bible (or Torah) Code is a code alleged to have been intentionally embedded in the Bible. The code is revealed by searching for equidistant letter sequences (ELS). For example, start with any letter ("N") and read every nth letter ("D") thereafter in the book, not counting spaces. If an entire book such as Genesis is searched, the result is a long string of letters. Using different values for "N" and "D", one can generate many strings of letters. Imagine wrapping the string of letters around a cylinder in such a way that all the letters can be displayed. Flatten the cylinder to reveal several rows with columns of equal length, except perhaps the last column which might be shorter than all the rest. Now search for meaningful names in proximity to dates. Search horizontally, vertically, diagonally, any which way

find the full article here

so what does everyone think? msgs left for us which could reveal our future | or simply a bunch of people with 2 muh time on their hands who have read too deep into the bible?

v_Ln
May 7th, 2002, 10:32 AM
pwaring

The Bible Code is certainly interesting, although a lot of it can be interpreted however you wish - i.e. you can often make the Bible say what you want it to say. I seriously doubt that there are messages left for us, if they could see the future then why not tell people more obviously and prevent disasters such as WWI & WWII? :D
May 7th, 2002, 10:34 AM
GreekGoddess

Right now....I'm doing a little online research of it. Honestly, I didn't know anything about the Bible Code, but it is fascinating, and I want to try it out for myself...While I'm thinking of a good answer to your question, I looked up http://members.aol.com/prophecy04/Ar...BibleCode.html
on Google....it goes into a little bit more of the who/when and some interesting theories...

MUAHAHAHA I think I found a new obsession... *LOL*

:eek:
May 7th, 2002, 10:40 AM
8*B@LL

well...seeing as it was authored in a different language, with a different charecter set(that cannot be mached letter-for-letter with the alphabet we use now), i'd say its sombody with too much time on their hands.
i see it kinda like this...i can type random letters and write a program to iterate through the possible letter-replacements and then i'm sure i will find messages in just about anything. hell, this post may fortell the comming of the anti-christ...
May 7th, 2002, 10:43 AM
8*B@LL

oh yea, also it would depend on which version of the bible you are reading and maybe even what edition. if you have the King James version it will be different than other versions.
May 7th, 2002, 02:54 PM
rcgreen

You could get a lot of messages
by playing all those 1960s and 70s
rock and roll songs backward.

"This is SATAN speaking, I want you
to go to your high school and kill
everyone!"
:cool:
May 7th, 2002, 04:03 PM
gold eagle

Give us the code.
May 7th, 2002, 08:20 PM
valhallen

Quote:

MUAHAHAHA I think I found a new obsession... *LOL*

heh as long as you don't forget about AO with your new obsesion GG ;)
but if you do find anything intresting about it keep posting us the links

v_Ln
May 7th, 2002, 08:47 PM
ii-monk

In a lesson on school, we have discussed about this and about the hiden messafes on the heavy metal's music's CDs. Our teacher said that if you hear backward your Heavy Metal's CD in the most CDs you hear a voice to call you kill and believe him (Imagine who!!! SATAN). Another time he said us that in that CDs the singers mix a message in low volume with the song, that message when we will hear it, it stays on our mind and after a long time it make reality everything the message says. These are two ways that Satan and his fans have made to spread the evil. Oh mum, i'm scared.
May 7th, 2002, 11:05 PM
8*B@LL

Quote:

Originally posted here by ii-monk
In a lesson on school, we have discussed about this and about the hiden messafes on the heavy metal's music's CDs. Our teacher said that if you hear backward your Heavy Metal's CD in the most CDs you hear a voice to call you kill and believe him (Imagine who!!! SATAN). Another time he said us that in that CDs the singers mix a message in low volume with the song, that message when we will hear it, it stays on our mind and after a long time it make reality everything the message says. These are two ways that Satan and his fans have made to spread the evil. Oh mum, i'm scared.

no worries...thats just the standard "meavy metal is the cause of all the worlds ills" BS. infact its 100% bull ****, pure, un-cut, and not from concentrate :-P. dont believe everything you hear, even if it is from teachers.
May 8th, 2002, 01:21 AM
thesecretfire

Given enough time, you could easily do something like this with the phone book, or in fact any long enough pice of writing. With the multiple translations and the "look around for important dates" thing, the results are completely meaningless and have been created by the "decoder's" mind.
May 8th, 2002, 02:39 AM
xmaddness

If you want to learn more about the bible code look for the movie pi as in the math symbol. Its about a guy who is dealving in chaos theory and discovers another number like pi that is supposedly the key to the bible code. Also I'm pretty sure that the bible code is only for the original torah written in hebrew. This is interesting because each letter in the hebrew alpha bet, (first to being Alpha and beta, hence alphabet) corisspond to numbers. many interesting combinations have been found with this.

Well check out the movie, I thought it was pretty interesting.
May 8th, 2002, 08:23 AM
GreekGoddess

YES!!! I'm an AO addict.... *jitters*

I've found some more interesting articles with some quite humorous examples, including the highly mentioned ELS method being used in Moby Dick....

My conclusion from most of what I've found so far, is that, although this may be just an interesting coincidence, for those that have religion, it brings hope...and even for myself, who is without one....It has brought increasing interest, one of which I'm sure I'll be talking about for quite some time to come....

http://www.csicop.org/si/9711/bible-code.html
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html http://members.aol.com/saa4him/kcode.htm
May 8th, 2002, 09:44 PM
Remote_Access

Wasn't there a movie about that?
I think there is but I can't remember the name of it..
!@#!@CURSES!@!#@#!
June 27th, 2002, 02:13 AM
jcmcb

I posted some CSICOP articles in the other thread, and I was going to knock em into this one, but Greek_Goddess beat me to it! Dangnabit!

Oh well, you cannot be the immortal I guess.....
June 27th, 2002, 02:27 PM
lord_darkside_x

my opinion on bible code is this... you can make anything say what you want it to say. all you have to do is look for it. the reason why people say that if you look for it you can find predictions about ww 1 & 2 is because they already happened. if they hadn't happened, we never would have seen it. just like the WTC on the back of the $20 bill. and the fact that if you take the <blank> letter ( i think 26th) of the original hebrew, it spells out a continuous strain of jesus. but the original hebrew texts do not exist. it is bizarre, but i believe it to be coincidence and based upon our perception of reality that we now experience. if our reality was different, people would have found something different for it to say.

8*ball> actually the low volume thing is true... i wish i had a source for that, but i don't off the top of my head. as for the backwards thing... i have heard a bunch of the said things that are said backwards. now honestly, some of them are complete bs. but on the other hand there are quite a few (including the eagles hotel california) that are blantantly audible and clear. now, i am not sure that these voices are satan or what... (it could just be a scam anyhow... someone doing it for kicks) but given the rest of the history on hotel california (the song, the place, and the album) it is interesting no matter who says it. don't get me wrong, i will clarify, i do not know or think that it is satan. but i am not really sure what it is... just some crazy stuff.
June 27th, 2002, 05:27 PM
garrion

I think 8*B@LL is right on the money with this one!
In order for there to be anything really there in this one, then it would have have come from the original version of the book in it's original language. ...unless we are contemplating having additional divine intervention during every translation of the book that we are going to look at. hmm... Hey Greek goddess, there's an angle for ya to consider.