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Does this make anyone else want to regurgitate?
http://wired.com/news/business/0,1367,52345,00.html
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From Wired News
Sites loaded with images of naked preteen kids in provocative poses proliferate legally (emphasis added) while authorities go after the real hard-core stuff. "It's very frustrating for us," an activist says.
Man, this is NOT good, in fact this is OUTRAGEOUS BULLSHIT :mad:. This crap is one of the reasons there's so much damn cyberstalking today. What's even WORSE is that the MOTHER****ERS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT. There are seveal related articls at the end of the article that you posted. I suggest you check them out (warning: strong stomach required). How are we EVER going to get control of this Internet monster :( :mad:???
Sick.. Just sick.. :(
It's times like this when I wonder what did become of EHAP.
This problem has existed since man crawled out of the primordial soup, don't get me wrong I'm sickened by it like the rest of you.
This is a deep rooted problem in the psyche of Man.(that includes women, in case you were wondering.) It's too much to tolerate this early in the morning.
There shouldn't be mercy for the man-boy-love-crap. Hang 'em high.(pun intended)
Agreed, <bump>
ummmmm yeah sheesh I 4got that when the American Constitution was written they included that bit to protect the rights of sick peadophile perverts!!!! Some people will twist anything to suit them......so these sites are fine according to American law? Well there must be some country where they're not - deport the b4stards!!! Hopefully the other country won't have any laws governing 'cruel and unusual punishment' as well......Quote:
Little Boyz, in accordance with the Constitution, believes that the right to view and appreciate nude images of minors in an artistic and aesthetic manner is guaranteed
v_Ln
That is sick....btw...HOW did you come accross this?, seartching for something perhapps... ?...j/k lol :D
this is really sick.....Uhg...I'm leaving , it's too mutch for me... :P <Bump>
- Noia
This is disgusting. Stuff like this has never been art in my eyes, only a really bad attempt at art.
I feel scared and sick reading that it makes me :fpissed:
I have a 6 year old boy. The thought of anyone even thinking of my child in that way makes me realize how easy it would be to rip someones head off with my bare hands. :fpissed:
Just out of curiousity, WHY do you think child porn is bad?
Most of us consider rooting and destroying a server or web-page defacement bad, but how many of you would argue against it in this matter?
BEFORE YOU FLAME, read this:
I am heavily opposed to child pornography (coming from a family where everyone has had a job with the local Sheriff's Office or FBI). Also being scientifically inclined, and perpetually curious not only of facts but opinions too, I always ask questions, despite how obvious the answers may seem.
Cause it's just ****ing sick. Anyone who gets pleasure at looking at nude children deserves a slow and terrible death.Quote:
WHY do you think child porn is bad?
This is some sick ass ****.... 'The feds dont want to get bogged down with these kinds of sites' Well?! Its still ****ing child porn, It doesnt matter what it is IT IS STILL ****ING SICK!
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The reason it's bad is because the children involved don't have a choice. Adult pr0n actors make a conscious decison to be involved in the pr0n industry whilst children are tricked, bribed or drugged.....The individual is too young to make such descisions and usually unaware of what's taking place....
without refearing to the obviousQuote:
WHY do you think child porn is bad?
child porn is the explotation of young children - what more of a reason do u need?Quote:
Cause it's just ****ing sick. Anyone who gets pleasure at looking at nude children deserves a slow and terrible death.
v_Ln
All I know is that once I begin my work as a full time police officer, I will be bombarded with crap like that when I do kiddie porn busts.....
You think that's bad, you ought to have sat in my presentation by the Provincial police and kiddie porn.... That'll make you feel green.... :chuck:
Don't forget I posted a second question:
What do you think of defacement and/or server erasal for child porn sites of any kind?
IMHO, vigilante's are no better than the purpetrator......
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That excuse is a bunch of BULLSHIT and the ass that wrote it knows it (not you Kezil) :mad:Quote:
Originally posted here by Kezil
Just out of curiousity, WHY do you think child porn is bad?
Most of us consider rooting and destroying a server or web-page defacement bad, but how many of you would argue against it in this matter?
BEFORE YOU FLAME, read this:
I am heavily opposed to child pornography (coming from a family where everyone has had a job with the local Sheriff's Office or FBI). Also being scientifically inclined, and perpetually curious not only of facts but opinions too, I always ask questions, despite how obvious the answers may seem.
I came accross this article during my daily Wired viewing.Quote:
Originally posted here by Noia
That is sick....btw...HOW did you come accross this?, seartching for something perhapps... ?...j/k lol :D
It makes me sick that people would actually attempt to call the act of exploiting a defenseless child in such a manner "art."
Oh yeah, mokneys throwing feces at a canvas is art too.
Hey, gimme the bucket. I'm gonna lose it again...
EDIT: Oh yeah, Kezil? I normally don't flame, but that post was uncalled for. "Scientific" or not. I'm all for debating, but if you're going to disagree with the entire population of AO on such a controversial topic, maybe you shouldn't post to the thread.
I again am heavily opposed, but aswell enjoy heated debates,
Now what I say is a good argument is, if there were not these perverted sites, how would these people fulfill their urges? If they did not get off to it on the internet would they goto your homes? Attacking your children perhaps?
On the inverse:
After they begin to recieve the liking to this, then they will have the urge to act upon it, and go after children, but without the stimulus, there would be no urge.
{These are not two opinions that I have formulated, these have been two of the key debates that have been pulled up in discussions that I have read that related to this.}
What are your thoughts? Please post.
11001001:
My post was not about debate, nor disagreeing. In fact, I stated in it that I did agree with "the entire population of AO" on the topic, and I was only curious as to why everyone (including myself) feels that way, because that is the way I often think--scientifically and with curiousity as to why everything is the way it is.
Btw, this is a forum, which means that anyone can post their view, whatever their view on any thread or subject unless the owner or moderator says otherwise, and so far I have not seen anything to that effect that would apply to my post.
Next time please read the entire post and make sure you understand it before you return such a reply.
This is the kind of **** that makes me want to find the site owners or webmasters of these kinds of sites, find out where they live, and ****ing beat the living **** outta them. Everyone's got sisters, brothers, etc etc and in a day and age where rapists and murderers in prison will band together and make a child molester have a very bad "accident", this is hardly acceptable at all.
This is where the constitution falls on it's ass. Why? Because back in the day when these guys were writing it, they sure as hell didn't have pedophiles in mind when they wrote 'Freedom of Speech'. People that say that the constitution is a living document and is open to interpretation need to be severely beaten because it's people thinking like this that make sites like that and are able to operate them "legally".
Kiddie porn is absolutely the lowest, sickest, most vile thing I've ever had the misfortune to ever ponder, much less see and if I ever met someone who ran a site or openly approved of that ****, I'm afraid I'd willingly go to jail for a number of reasons.
I can only quote part of the bible right at this point and that's "Suffer unto me all the little children." as I think that sums up what they must feel like. I can't imagine being a kid being forced into doing **** like that. If one grew up and killed their entire family because of it, I can't say I'd blame them at all.
And to TOP IT OFF: congress is ****ing worried over "violent" video games yet this **** slides around in the filth that it is?! WTF IS UP WITH THAT? There's violence and plenty of it in video games BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN A VIDEO GAME ON THE MARKET THAT INCLUDES KIDDIE PORN.
Christ, it's off to Global Ops I go before I really hurt someone...
About rights? These children aren't old enough to be asked if showing them in these photos is infringing on their rights. :fpissed:Quote:
Little Boyz, in accordance with the Constitution, believes that the right to view and appreciate nude images of minors in an artistic and aesthetic manner is guaranteed
it would seem that there would be more job openings if they can't shut these sites down. After all there are people here that would be able to do it.Quote:
One spam her organization detected at the end of April, for example, directed recipients to a page containing graphic images of sexual activity involving toddlers. The site, which authorities have tried to close for more than a year, keeps hopping from one IP address to another. Another site featuring hard-core photos of "tiny little girls" brags: "Our server was closed 21 times, but we have risen from the ashes again.
Are these the kind of sites that are just asking to be bombed, hacked and terrorised? Just give me an adress and i'm happy to do that. Damn I hate this!
No matter how many people spout that they have the freedom to do things such as this it does not take away from the fact that the child must be abused in many ways to make such so called ART. There should also be a stipulation that people have the right to be safe and lead unencumbered lives.
The emotional and physical scars will last a life time. There was a man in Victoria B.C who was busted for ALLEDGELY having a kiddie porn ring! He was let off AFTER they raided his house and found near 8000 pics of children (self done pics, not mags). The man walked even after they pointed out that he had to abuse the children (which were all boys I think) in order to get the childrens pictures. Aparently B.C unfortunatly is toping Canada for child porn. They are put on the streets to WORK. They are kidnapped and put on drugs, then photographed or made to have sexual relations with grown people or other children. After they are hooked on the drugs rthen they are trapped in a life style that has them live in fear and self loathing. Many may stay on drugs and live their lives in that world, some may escape only to be dragged back or killed. Some may harm others in desperation. This is a serious issue that demands everyones attention in the world. We need to keep the children safe to live their lives and just be children. Instead of putting Adult pressures on them that they dont understand.
The real question is not is this right , it's how do you take on a system that goes back farther then we can all imagine. This is not a new thing. In Roman times children were regularaly used in this fashion. Senators, Legions, and so on. Tackling this problem is as dificult as going to the Vatican and demading retrabution for all of the Preists misdeeds against all the boys of the world.
As you can see this is a very strong issue in my eyes. My only wish is that I could change the world. What is one lone person in this vast ocean of people??
Greenies for you :)Quote:
Originally posted here by nutta
No matter how many people spout that they have the freedom to do things such as this it does not take away from the fact that the child must be abused in many ways to make such so called ART. There should also be a stipulation that people have the right to be safe and lead unencumbered lives.
The emotional and physical scars will last a life time. There was a man in Victoria B.C who was busted for ALLEDGELY having a kiddie porn ring! He was let off AFTER they raided his house and found near 8000 pics of children (self done pics, not mags). The man walked even after they pointed out that he had to abuse the children (which were all boys I think) in order to get the childrens pictures. Aparently B.C unfortunatly is toping Canada for child porn. They are put on the streets to WORK. They are kidnapped and put on drugs, then photographed or made to have sexual relations with grown people or other children. After they are hooked on the drugs rthen they are trapped in a life style that has them live in fear and self loathing. Many may stay on drugs and live their lives in that world, some may escape only to be dragged back or killed. Some may harm others in desperation. This is a serious issue that demands everyones attention in the world. We need to keep the children safe to live their lives and just be children. Instead of putting Adult pressures on them that they dont understand.
The real question is not is this right , it's how do you take on a system that goes back farther then we can all imagine. This is not a new thing. In Roman times children were regularaly used in this fashion. Senators, Legions, and so on. Tackling this problem is as dificult as going to the Vatican and demading retrabution for all of the Preists misdeeds against all the boys of the world.
As you can see this is a very strong issue in my eyes. My only wish is that I could change the world. What is one lone person in this vast ocean of people??
The problem, my friends is this:
As much as we as a race hate to admit this, lust for children is a BASIC BIOLOGICAL DRIVE. I'm not saying that it's right. I'm not saying that we can't overcome it, and we should be able to, as sentient creatures that have developed civilization. But what would you say if I told you to give up sex forever because no matter what you say, or what the woman says (sorry for writing from a male viewpoint) that the woman's rights are being violated, because she's just a woman, and doesn't know what's good for her? This is the attitude that many governments present. I could use the same thing from a racist point of view. My point, perhaps is this: I agree with all of you, but you should think about your reasons before you attack. Saying "Because it's sick" is simply avoiding the question. Or, if you will, think of it another way. I know this has been mentioned before, but allow me to bring it up again? These pedophiles (who, I may remind you, are only this way because of biology and basic human nature) are taking out their lust for children in the privacy of their homes, and not taking it onto the street. Removing this outlet might force them into violent acts against children. Once again, I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying that if we disagree, we need to do it scientifically, and come up with some real points that would stand up under arguements like these. I know that everyone at AntiOnline is intelligent, and I expect that we can come up with some better reasoning than "it's sick." I know people will probably disagree with this post, and that my point rating is going to go down the drain, but if we can't defend ourselves against these sort of arguements, then what right do we have to say that something is wrong?
So let's start using our heads to think instead of our testicles, hmm?
SSJVegeta-Sei
Guys -
Those of you who know me, know I don't like people nosing around into other peoples websites/email etc. That having been said, I would look the other way if someone were to attack a site like this. Sometimes the gov't is powerless to stop sicko (not a technical term, but its the right term) creeps like this. Bad enough that you want to look at this, but even worse to make money off it!!!
Gosh darn this makes me mad.....grrrrrrrrr
I hear what you are saying SSJVegeta-Sei (I love vegeta by the way ...my all time fave DB-Z) but in order for these outlets to be there for the personal use, Children have to be abused. I understand you are not saying that "Its right to have around" BUT the people who use children in their porn site are abusing them in order for the smut to be made!!!!!! How can we as humans condone any right that violates our most important part of the species itself??Quote:
These pedophiles (who, I may remind you, are only this way because of biology and basic human nature) are taking out their lust for children in the privacy of their homes, and not taking it onto the street. Removing this outlet might force them into violent acts against children
The children deserve to live a life that does not expose them to the seedy aspects of life!
Also don't you think that by haveing these sites it feeds the minds of the pedophiles? Maybe they only ever thought about it....then after watching it alot and constantly thinking about children in this light turn to doing the acts themselves. Watching will only curb the impulses for so long then it can feed it and make it gow into something monsterous.
I don't know about you but my personal human nature is when I see a child I want to shelter them and keep them safe ...not violate them and ruin their peace of mind that can last a life time.
Question for y'all:
Virtual Child Porn:
One the one hand it doesn't hurt an actual child (or at least that is my understanding...)
On the other it is still sick and disgusting....
How do y'all feel about this?
Personally I feel that any child porn hurts all children, whether virtual, real, lego, stego, cartoon, or anyother format....
@ jcmb
Lego?
SSJVegeta-Sei
I live in a land where:
1) "Kiddie Erotica" & virtual kiddie porn are fine;
2) Posting the 10 Commandments on a courthouse wall is forbidden.
Some of the rulings of federal courts sicken me.
:chuck: