VNC in schools

I don't know if this has anything to do with anything, btw its a good story. :p Ok, a few weeks ago me and a friend found VNC in a school computer. We didn't know what it was, and when we checked it out it seemed useless. For those of us who don't know what it is, its a program where you can watch and interact with other users from your terminal. Well anyway, Me and my friend who will remain nameless :p , checked the options menu. It had the password like this "******". Sooo we are both compooter nerds, and we decided we'd use SnadBoys Revelation on it and get the password... We did. It was real cool, all we had to do was type in the networks name, W:, in this case, the room number, 111, (My computer class) and then the number on the computer. We screwed around and ended getting suspended till the end of the year. I hope someone enjoyed that... or I just waisted a long time on nothing. :p

hehe...please dont "flame" me...

ya never get punished for doing something....

Well, on one hand, this could be looked at as a good thing, because hopefully you've learned your lesson of not to screw with files you aren't supposed to have access to, and especially not on school or government computers.

On the other hand, however, I hope you're not looking at it as a good thing because it was cool or something. Granted, I've done some things that weren't all that legal to do in my life, but in the end you, in my opinion, shouldn't be proud about something like getting expelled from school. It seems like you are, and please pardon me if I've gotten the wrong impression by your post.

<sarc>Either way, you wanted something (the password) and you got it through doing something you shouldn't have. You are, in mine and many other's eyes, now a real hacker. </sarc>

that was fairly dumb you should have connected to it from a remote location, like the mall or like a cybercafe.

lol well the kidd was curious.. i guess we should give this kidd some slack.. tho in my case when i managed to crack the CMOS setup password to fix a computer our teacher got mad even my intention was noble..

the thing is.. some students cracked the cmos password and changed the mem to 0mb so the video was stuffed and when u boot the pc all u see is a colored screen.. tho the color on the screen changes when u press the keyboard..

so what i did was i memorized the cmos setup menue by heart (this varries on the computer but that network used thesame computers), blindly cracked the cmos setup password (i killed all the cmos settings), and i blindly set the memory back to 16Mb.. and rebooted the pc.. and viola.. the pc is back to normal.. now this was a bit tricky coz you cant see anything except for the colors on your screen.. but the change of colors gives me the hint that the computer accepts the activity am doing. and when i went to my instructor to set up the password he got mad... i mean.. he's lucky i told him to set up the password and not set up the password myself.. all i wanted was to make the unuseable computers in the back row to be useable again.. so we can have more computers on the network. and instead of gettin a thanks i got a threat..

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instead of gettin a thanks i got a threat..

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Such is life, s0nIc. Such is life.
A teacher in my school once threatened me because I was in the End Task menu (Ctrl. Alt. Delete) because Word had crashed on me and I was trying to save time (and potential hard disk corruption) by not having to press the reset button. Apparently, Ctrl. Alt. Delete is some kind of special administrative thing and only the technicians are trained in how to use it, and someone who isn't trained could damage the whole network from it. Yeah right!

I agree with jehnx, I hope this kid has taken this lesson to heart. It's the kids that bad intentions that give the kids with good intentions a bad name. Sounds like s0nIc and Rewandythal, JP, and I have all been the victims of the same situation. I can't even remember all the times I've sat in the vice-principles office proving to the technology teacher that I wasn't the one that did whatever they were accusing me of doing. Looking back, I think they were just trying to get me to rat out the person that did it. Hindsight 20/20...
The point of this ramble is: Learn from your mistakes and find productive ways to use your skills. Get your work done before anyone else and ask your teacher if they'll let you try to fix the computer in the back that hasn't worked in three weeks. In most cases, if you ask, you get the approval and green light. (And stay in school...)

P4l3h0rs3

lol.. yeah... u have a point there...

but it really bugged me.. coz we normally have a weekly network and systems report to hand in.. and i already reported about the 5 worksations that are not working, and i reported to the a lot of times.. coz we have more students in class than computers and some of us have to stand and watch till someone is finished so we can have our turn.. and they told me they cant get it fixed easily coz they have to send some sort of techician to change the chips or something.. so i said **** this.. ill do this myself.. all i need is 30 mins tops. and i dont have to open the box or damage anything to do it.. so i did it.. and i got introuble coz they thought im a walking security risk to their network and they actually changed the passwords and security settings of the whole network after that incident (even the one in the library).

somebody in my school had his username removed just for pointing out to the administrator that the internet filter was not working. sly one.

whats CMOS? Hmmm... I should just keep thinking "Curiosity killed the cat" :p

Man does this post bring back some memories...

In my Junior/Senior year of HS the school had 3 seperate LAN's in it. In my school there were 3 kids that were REAL hackers and didn't put our name to shame (me being 1) The teachers knew we helped and we all more than one got pulled out of study hall to go fix crap. I had the root passwords for all the LAN's in the school memorized (the admins gave them to me). when I came back for my Senior year from the summer. I found we had a new Mac Admin. I also found out they had a little disaster in the Lab that caused them to have to use the backup tape and restore everything, including the old password file. Now the new Admin is SCREWED because the old guy is long gone and he has the root pass, oh great. So I walk in and she tells me what happend, So I say "pull up my username" which had elevated privs given to me by the last guy. I then go in there and enter my password and she's got root back. We've been friends ever since :D.

Yeah, people are just so afraid of what the don't understand (sounds cliché but its true)... And we all know how teachers over 25 years of age don't have a clue about computers... Heh, I've read this story where a security guard asked a comp student if a certain staff member was doing something illegal because he had seen him a few times with a message box stating "Illegal instruction" on the screen while passing by!!!

Of course in the case of teachers vs students, it's even worst cuz they feel threatened cuz the student knows more than them....

Ammo

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somebody in my school had his username removed just for pointing out to the administrator that the internet filter was not working.

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A lot of school admins are just dumbass who hate the fact that some of the students know more than them. It hurts there ego and they get upset.

a few years ago I was working at the helpdesk of a company on second shift my work for the night was done and I had some time to play. I knew the email admin in the data center was accessing his home mp3 server because I was sniffing with I believe it was netboy and packet boy so I thought I would play with him a little. I created an issue on a computer in another office and asked him to help me fix it cause hes so uber with outlook 98 and all then when he was working at it I went into the data center and lo and be hold he didnt log out or lock his work station!!! I loaded a simple kelogger (cant quite remember the name)that also leaves an open port you can connect to using telnet but on a different port and see whats saved to a file( mind you this way is easy to trace and easy to find on your pc but it works) and disconected his connections to the internet ......when he finished his outlook fix on the pc he came back logged on to his mp3 server at his house and I had him. I planted a wave file that was a recording of me but mixed a little I just made saying he was hacked and should really consided tightening up his security. Funny thing about this is I used a training machine ( 1 of 80 pc's) and even if he looked at the access logs it would not have been easy to trace the actual culprit. then the next day I was talking to him and it was hard not to smile when he mentioned that someone hacked him through this network from the training room and wanted some help finding the pc with a specific mac.!!! nothing in the training room was labled properly I told him he had better things to do than this and that I would take care of it.
removed the nic from that pc and changed the pc name. That pc was never found..

so I did tell him some time later and explained how I did it and he said "that f***** up) a few times. then we talked about security some. This did eventually help me get to where I am today but It doesnt always pan out that way so use caution in your attemps to learn!

We should change the name of this from "VNC in schools" to somethin like "Ways an Administrator can be a total nit wit" :p

How do you get those little pictures next to your name there?

Nevermind that last post, I gotta get 10 posts!

It's pretty sad...my IT/Business teacher only got the job because he is a music teacher and he could touch type...every little problem and he has to call the system admin. everyone in the class is probably smarter than him but he's the teacher and we have to listen to him. The system admin doesn't care about anything in our school... i ran a telnet server so that our class could chat and the teacher found out a couple people were using it and he said "i'll found out who's been doing this and your gonna get in trouble" like seriously we havent been caught yet...really how hard is it to notice that there at 10 connections to one computer?

Why are all the in s red?

i know no one reads this anymore, but STOP CALLING ME KID!!!! I hope the kid listened...i hope the kid learned this and that STOP IT!! >:O

Hrmmm....I don't think the kid is getting it.

:D

I find it very worrying that in a least 5 different countries including mine (UK), that a lot I.T. teachers at schools and collages having basically no knowledge of computing and even new starters know more them , and in my opinion they shouldn't hold there jobs.


High Lights – of few problem areas


1st High School in 1991-1995 – Print Server was in class room any student could mess with it Students had access to the systems when no teachers were about

2nd High School in 1995 – 1996 – Stupid Cumbrian I.T. school teachers was so pleased with his crappy he quoted state of the art computer room. I told him with pleasure it was shite cos the machines weren’t networked and that to be state of the art he had to running Windows 95 not Windows 3.1 (you can guess I got banned for telling him the facts.)

College 1996 Teacher switched off power to whole of class we all lost our work, blamed us for not saving work, well that true but it not acceptable switching the power off. The so-called techy’s tried upgrading network and totally messed it up. People brought in hacking tools and never got caught. Internet access wasn’t restricted which was cool except someone got caught looking at Porn. but it was so easy to get the password due to tools on network

Sigh... I came here to read about VNC. What a disappointment.

Here's a link to VNC, avenger.....You probably already know this, just wanting to make certain.

http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

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Scotty is smoking the dilithium crystals again, Jim

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I don't know if I've said this before, but nice signature, TechieChick. :)

Thanks!
I love it. :D

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Originally posted here by Rewandythal
Such is life, s0nIc. Such is life.
A teacher in my school once threatened me because I was in the End Task menu (Ctrl. Alt. Delete) because Word had crashed on me and I was trying to save time (and potential hard disk corruption) by not having to press the reset button. Apparently, Ctrl. Alt. Delete is some kind of special administrative thing and only the technicians are trained in how to use it, and someone who isn't trained could damage the whole network from it. Yeah right!

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(Once again dating myself a bit.. *sigh*)

Well, when I went to school (and I'm sure that the situation's only gotten worse since then), the computer instructors were the brightest, most ambitious instructors in the school... often the math or science instructors that were branching out and trying something new. Granted, back then we're talking 1MHz and (*gasp*) 2MHz PCs were brand-spankin-new... or so it seemed (no one had them). So, as it ended up, the instructors often didn't know much more about the machines that the curriculum they were paid to teach... anything outside of that was, well, verbotten (or this dreadful scary place that you weren't allowed to go). <edit>They were reading ahead of the class or thought to be "good enough to stay ahead of the student" even though they, themselves, didn't actually know the subject at hand... I think there's a couple of movies that elude to similiar practices around then.</edit>

So, myself... having already, several years previous, built a computer from nearly scratch (anyone here remember Heathkit?) and having actually managed to get the terminal interface working (yes - up until that point it was just a hex pad and a series of LEDs), you could say that I knew a little bit more than the average person/high-school kid or even instructor. (When we got the BASIC interpreter running on the thing, we were in business, let me tell you).

Myself, being completely bored in my AP Computer Class (ie. introduction to Pascal, 6502 Assembly, and a few other things) - I nearly got seriously busted in school for writing a computer program that would emulate the interface that students would see when the machine booted up. It would let you play and interact with the machine as you were supposed to... minus a couple "important" features. For the BASIC Programming class (which followed the AP class), certain important features like "run" and "save" and "load" were missing... though later versions would give smart-alec reponsives to things like "list" or "run" and the like. All in all, my friends and I at the time thought it was pretty funny... the instructor, on the other hand, was not impressed.