Do you need a specific program or system to make a program, if so where can i get it?
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Do you need a specific program or system to make a program, if so where can i get it?
a program to do what ? what is your goal ?
you need to learn programming languages first learn delphi or C++.. and you need A LOT of time... good luck
My goal is to make a system better than Windows and waaay more secure
lmao, are you real? Well I hope you have lots of money and spare time...
I gladly offer you NO help at all :D
Grrrrrrr......Actually I can't tell you the REAL reason i need it but, come on. tell me
well least its not the normal story about "my girlfriend" or "my school" or "the Klan"......
thank you for making me laugh...it's been a rough day...and well...this...is so damn funny i can't even speak....
oh and to answer your question....i'd use frontpage with a multiphlanged code base
In order to make your own programs you need to learn a programming language or 2. There are many available. Pick one.
ok, zigar, frontpage? how dose he make a program? frontpage? i fail to make the connection there.
ok you wanna learn to program, open up sound recorder in windows. record your your voice saying what exactly you want the program to do (you need to be spacific) and then change where it the file is named. you need to change the last 3 letters that should be .wav you need to change it .exe then all you do is double cllick on it and come back and tell us how it works
gawd some people....
if you use a multiphlanged codebase with frontpage you can make superduper progs...it's the phlangedness that makes it work
EDIT: i guess i should answer the first question...as it was a valid question...it was the replies that got me...waaay more secure...lmao
anyways...check out this thread....it's a good start....
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=229334
sorry, you know us linux geeks try and avoid anything microsoft, i just thought that frontpage was a WYSIWYG HTML editor.......... hell im still trying to pronounce "multiphlanged" i have no clue what it means
many-fingered, if I recall correctly!
lol
LMAO, if that did anything other than crash, I'd be very surprised.Quote:
Originally posted here by LoggOff
ok, zigar, frontpage? how dose he make a program? frontpage? i fail to make the connection there.
ok you wanna learn to program, open up sound recorder in windows. record your your voice saying what exactly you want the program to do (you need to be spacific) and then change where it the file is named. you need to change the last 3 letters that should be .wav you need to change it .exe then all you do is double cllick on it and come back and tell us how it works
argh....someone finally asks a legitimate question, yes funny, but still.
newhack: Like some of the members mentioned, you write programs using a programming language and a compiler (in a nutshell).
Programming languages depending on which one you choose to learn are very, very complicated and take time to get really proficient at.
Some good ones are: C, C++, Visual Basic - for windows applications.
they are the most mainstream and are highly documented. Next writing an Operating system is beyond the scope of possibility at this time. It is a HUGE task that take many people and years to complete. Thats why there are so few to choose from.
gook luck.
this thread really shows how ignorant the average computer user is... even the ones that know enough to find a board like AO...
sad sad sad sad...
found a neato one in written entirely in asm...but yes it's open source and several years in the making and many many very smart people worked on it....Quote:
Next writing an Operating system is beyond the scope of possibility at this time. It is a HUGE task that take many people and years to complete.
http://v2os.v2.nl
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The goal of V2_OS first started as making a stunningly fast operating system for video processing. This goal held for all versions until 0.70, where a major redesign was forced.
The 0.70 versions are completely different, still aimed for maximal performance, though. These are the major features of V2_OS 0.70:
Single addressing space (SAS), this was to avoid far jumps in the code. Far jumps means loading 8 bytes for a single jump to another position in code. Using SAS we more or less force the coders to use shorter jumps (4 bytes to load for one jump), which makes modules smaller.
It is oriented towards the Object Oriented Programming (OOP), which makes even your assembly code able to use OOP.
It is not using any kind of memory protection from start, which enhances the perfomance compared to other systems. This is because the CPU will not have to check for permissions.
V2_OS 0.70 uses a static call table, a table with pointer to commands. This means that you can easily replace system functions with your own system functions. You can, for example, replace the malloc command, which reserves memory for your application, with a new memory allocator which you have coded yourself - maybe with some extra features? This change then instantly takes effect for all running applications.
Start by learning a programming language like C or one of its cousins (C++, Java, or javascript) or consider VB or VBscript depending on what you need to do. PERL is a good language to know. Really it all depends on what you want to do with your program.
So lets say you kind of know a language and want to code a simple program.
Define your problem -- What do you want it to do.
Determine what you inputs, outputs, and your processing will be -- What variables will have to be declared, what user input you need, what you want it to do with that input, and what you want the results to look like.
Select a solution -- Find what steps you will have to take to get from point A to the end.
Break the solution into manageable sections -- accomplish tasks one at a time and put them all togather when you are done.
Test your code...
Modify your code..
Test your code...
If you are a Linux user then rumor has it that most flavors come with C compilers among others. A PERL environment is available at http://www.perl.org If you are wanting specific techniques then you have to be specific with your request. Buy a book on the language you want to learn, but I would recommend you buy a book on basic programming first as it will save you tons of time debugging if you use good technique when developing your code.
shhhhhhh...... dont tell him that, i was hoping hed come back saying that its not working;)Quote:
LMAO LoggOff, your way doesn't work :( I think I will burn it to a CD and try it on another computer! Or maybe I should transfer the wave to mp3 before changing it to exe??? :D
Well, where do i get a compiler and wut r the best ones?
newhacker14: Are you really a hacker? Hackers should know that. Don't call yourself a hacker of any form until you learn to hack, and wanna learn.
I think you are overlooking a few important steps... I suggest reading further on programming first and maybe buy a book on C++ or Visual Basic.
I suggest search for a C++ or VB tutorial on google.com...
Then with all you will have learned you will know what you need to look for for the next step :)
Have fun learning new stuff!
Actually, I think he's a 14yo Whacker from the North Eastern US... I mean, why else would he call himself "NE Whacker 14"? :DQuote:
Originally posted here by huntx7
newhacker14: Are you really a hacker? Hackers should know that. Don't call yourself a hacker of any form until you learn to hack, and wanna learn.
Check out Http://www.perl.org They should have a compiler for PERL there that will meet your needs. They also should have a few basic tutorials that will help you get started. But understand that learning to program is not something that you will do overnight. I really like the fact that you are looking for answers, but I think you need to refine your search.
Start simple, Javascript is a fairly easy language and you can use notepad.exe found on just about every windows OS to code it. It is an interpreted language so you don't need a compiler, your browser will do the work in that department. You will need to know some HTML but there are plenty HTML and javascript tutorials out there. Take is slow and enjoy little successes as they come.
PHP and vbscript are also interpreted languages that you can use notepad to write, but you will need a PHP enabled server to use PHP, but vbscript is supported in HTML docs just like javascript so it will work on most servers.
If you just get confused by the above post go buy c++ for dumies. Might be a good start for someone with no clue what so ever.
or you can try google. Don't worry i've done all the work for you http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&lr...amming&spell=1
does anyone know pearl? If so, id like to talk to you. :confused:
Make your bootsectors in Assembly
Make the backbone in C++
Make your OPerating System Crap in C++, if you supper lazy you could do VB for some crap.
It's all good as long as you don't use a stupid Linux startup, because everyone
knows that it won't be yours. And it won't be secure. Good luck hope to see your operating
system when my Great, Great, Great, Grandson Graduates from College with a Phd in Law
Perl sucks!!
This Thread Sucks!!!
Me posting 4 times Sucks!!
Hi im an auto mechanics wiz. i need to make the gas explode in my engine. what do i need to get to make this happen and where do i go to get it.
You need to learn programming languages and get compliers. And a brain along the way...
Food for thought....
Why do we drive in parkways and park in driveways?
Why do we take an honest good thread and **** it up with stupid bullshit (you know who you are), and take a stupid thread and give it an honest answer?
to all whom set out to ruin this thread **** you, **** you in your little bean hole, then **** you again just for principal.
best regards,
Captain Quad
Since when did AO become the 'elite' and flame people for asking legitmate questions? I think there where only a few real replies in a 2 1/2 pages!?
Whacker14; so you want to learn how to program. Well I hope you have a bookstore near you, unless you like reading programming documentation with your monitor. Go to a bookstore, preferrably one with a large technical section. And start browsing through the programming books.
Someone else here at AO, has suggested to take a few books from a language that grabs your interest, read or skim through 'em, and if it makes sense to ya, go for that language. If not, do the same thing with a different language.
I fully agree with that. Many books and programming languages are NOT created equal. Now that is just to start programming. If you have a specific program that you know you want to build; well then pick the language that gets the job done, preferrably in the most efficient way :)
Oh, and why don't you do a search with this question with this little known search engine called Google.
I know her. She's realy a great woman. I won't tell you anything about her. She is mine, all mine, I tell ya................ :DQuote:
Seriously though. Forget Perl, look into some C, C++ or VB.
Perl is a great language. If you can figure it out. Pick up a book. It is easy to learn.
I know some PERL and would be happy to help in any way I can. I'm not all that skilled, so my help will be limited, but I'll give you all I can.
Yikes, I lost Internet for two weeks and I see this... lol
That's a tall order, newhacker14 to build an OS that is stable, secure and fast. As the other replies stated, it takes a lot of time, know-how, patience, coffee, money, guru friends and plenty of reference material to even start scratching the surface.
However, why start to make an OS when there are other excellent operating systems in active development that is starting to take presidence in a proprietary world? I am sure you can really benefit from obtaining some open-source operating system (such as FreeBSD, Debian,Red Hat, etc) getting the source code, using and learning the languages included in most distros (There are many, many languages and you can learn for five lifetimes and never get it all) and maybe even help out the community while you are at it. :D Look at the distro documentation and HOW-TO's to see what is available.
As for the validity and worth of this thread, it is not so bad... we were all newbies at one time too...
Before an OS I'd suggest "Hello World". When you figure out what Hello World is then you'll already be on your way. Start with Google.