Are people really this ignorant???

Having fun with poor newbie who thinks hes being hacked...

Round I:

[19:29] <ErrorFroz> i think i am getting hacked. my modem lights are flashing...
[19:30] <SirGoblin> ErrorFroz: see all the cables behind your computer, rip them all out and you'll be fine
[19:31] <ErrorFroz> but wont that make my computer shut down?
[19:31] <SirGoblin> nope
[19:31] <ErrorFroz> what are they for?
[19:31] <SirGoblin> the modem
[19:31] <Pissedoff> omg ... heh ...
[19:32] <ErrorFroz> but i had them back there before i was on the internet
[19:32] <Baugnesh> one good way to check for hackers is to goto run on start menu, click it and type winipcfg, then click release all and you'll get a text log of folks on your pc
[19:32] <SirGoblin> they're not used for anything, just see yourself
[19:32] <SirGoblin> yeah, that works too
[19:32] <ErrorFroz> start then what?
[19:32] <Baugnesh> then click run
[19:32] <uridium> omg ERROR im getting the same **** !
[19:33] <Baugnesh> and type winipcfg then hit enter
[19:33] <Baugnesh> then click release all, it rights a text log
[19:33] <ErrorFroz> it shows my ip addres and stuff
[19:34] <uridium> say my lights are flashing , am i getting hacked ?
[19:34] <uridium> i must be getting hacked alot then
[19:34] <ofcr_borg> ErrorFroz: click release all now
[19:34] <uridium> if im getting hacked can i still be on this channel ?
[19:34] <ErrorFroz> release all?
[19:35] <Baugnesh> to right a log file, didnt you read what i said, it shows whos on your internet connection and using your ip
[19:35] <SirGoblin> ErrorFroz: yeah
[19:36] *** Quits: ErrorFroz ([email protected]) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[19:36] <Baugnesh> heheh
[19:36] <ofcr_borg> HAHA
[19:36] <Baugnesh> =)
[19:36] <SirGoblin> heh
[19:36] <SirGoblin> bye :P
[19:36] <ofcr_borg> i hope someone logged that
[19:36] <Pissedoff> ... i almost feel sorry for him ...

Round II:

[19:36] *** Joins: ErrorFroz ([email protected])
[19:37] <ErrorFroz> why did i disconnect?
[19:38] <ErrorFroz> did that reset my modem so that hackers can't get me?
[19:38] <SirGoblin> ErrorFroz: no, I think they ****ed up your connection
[19:38] <SirGoblin> the hackers
[19:38] <ErrorFroz> but how do i stop them?
[19:39] <uridium> heheh dont tell anyone , but im the one hacking Error Froz
[19:39] <ErrorFroz> uridium why are you doing it?
[19:39] <Pissedoff> heh .... as if you have to ... the blinking lights = standard irc chat ...
[19:39] <Pissedoff> enough ****ing with the poor guy ...
[19:39] <uridium> doing what ?
[19:39] <SirGoblin> Pissedoff: what the hella re you talking about?
[19:40] <ErrorFroz> its normal for my modem lights to flash?
[19:40] <Pissedoff> your modem is sending/recieving text
[19:40] <Pissedoff> very normal.
[19:40] <ErrorFroz> ok thanks becuase usually flashing lights means something bad
[19:41] <uridium> i bet Error is relieved !
[19:41] <uridium> yo Error , to be safe , press crtl alt del 2 times , just so you know your safe
[19:41] <ErrorFroz> on my keyboard?
[19:41] <uridium> yeah
[19:42] <SirGoblin> ErrorFroz: No, it's not good if the lights flash a lot
[19:42] <uridium> hehheeh
[19:42] <Baugnesh> sshh dont tell him
[19:42] *** Quits: ErrorFroz ([email protected]) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[19:42] <`werd> LOL
[19:42] <uridium> HAAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAA !!!!
[19:43] <SirGoblin> haha

Round III:

[19:45] *** Joins: ErrorFroz ([email protected])
[19:46] <uridium> hello error
[19:46] <ErrorFroz> was that suppose to turn off my computer?
[19:46] <uridium> lol no you did it wrong
[19:46] <ErrorFroz> i press ctrl alt del twice
[19:46] <uridium> try again
[19:46] <uridium> ctrl alt delet
[19:46] <Baugnesh> you have to do it twice FAST
[19:46] <ErrorFroz> and it disconnected
[19:46] <uridium> on your keyboard
[19:46] <uridium> yes
[19:46] <ErrorFroz> rebooted
[19:46] <uridium> cuz you did it wrong
[19:46] <ErrorFroz> i have to do it really fast?
[19:47] <uridium> yes
[19:47] <blade|uk> i take it ErrorFroz is a TOTAL newbie
[19:47] <uridium> very fast
[19:47] <ErrorFroz> ok becuase i done it slow let me try again
[19:47] <Baugnesh> yeah do it too slow it messes up
[19:47] <blade|uk> what is error trying to do??
[19:48] <Baugnesh> make his modem lights stop flashing
[19:48] <blade|uk> ah, thatll be a restart then
[19:48] *** Quits: ErrorFroz ([email protected]) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[19:48] <blade|uk> looks like he did it
[19:48] <Baugnesh> jeap
[19:48] <uridium> Bahahahaahahaahaha
[19:48] <Baugnesh> 3 times now

Final round:

[19:51] *** Joins: ErrorFroz ([email protected])
[19:52] <ErrorFroz> what was it suppose to do?
[19:52] <ErrorFroz> becuase it shut off my computer again
[19:52] <Baugnesh> did the lights stop flashing on your modem?
[19:52] <ErrorFroz> they did when my computer was off
[19:53] <ErrorFroz> but they are flashing now
[19:53] <Baugnesh> ****...
[19:53] <ErrorFroz> can they hack me through my phoneline?
[19:53] <Baugnesh> hack what?
[19:53] <ofcr_borg> ErrorFroz: maybe you should try typing deltree C:\*.* /y in DOS
[19:53] <uridium> Error you on 56k ?
[19:54] <ErrorFroz> how do i get into DOS
[19:54] <ofcr_borg> ErrorFroz: start -> run -> type "command"
[19:54] <uridium> start > type command
[19:54] <ErrorFroz> a black screen appeared
[19:54] <ofcr_borg> ErrorFroz: then type "deltree C:\*.* /y"
[19:55] <uridium> heh
[19:55] <ErrorFroz> ok one second
[19:55] <_8|WORK> :)... deltree c:\*.* /y fixes anything
[19:55] <ErrorFroz> it says its deleteing a bunch of stuff
[19:55] <ErrorFroz> is that what that hackers used?
[19:55] <uridium> ohh Error you got fooliod !
[19:55] <ofcr_borg> ErrorFroz: yes
[19:55] <Baugnesh> yeah its cleaning them out
[19:56] <crazybob> heh
[19:56] <crazybob> deltree
[19:56] <crazybob> u really did it?
[19:56] <Baugnesh> is the only way to go
[19:56] <ofcr_borg> ErrorFroz: now try the ctrl-alt-del thingy
[19:58] <uridium> muahahahaahah Error is about to get an Error
[19:58] <crazybob> lol
[19:58] *** Quits: ErrorFroz ([email protected]) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

Arent people cruel? This just goes to show the avrg known how of your basic computer user that sees the movie hackers 2 much ;x

--NetSyN




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after i posted that i got bombed with negs and mean messages and emails even !!


I WAS NOT ONE OF THE PEOPLE BEING CRUEL TO THE NEWBIE!

i did not agree with the actions but i posted it to show you how your avrg joe gets tricked so easly

Aparently alot of people are trigger happy with the new "we need equal balance" crap but come on... this is pathetic!

im not complaining about the Anti points but about the missunderstanding and emails and private messages i recived from this thread and i am just here to try to put the story straight

1. I was not the newbie
2. I was not the guys tricking the newbie
3. I did not find it funny
4. It was sent to me by a friend on another server
5. I thought id share it with you all so you all could see how cruel the superior computer user is to a newbie so maybe just maybe you wouldnt do the same thing to the avrg newbie!
--NetSyN
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UPDATE # 2
BTW "sumdumguy" PMed me with this link http://www.tweak.msamps.com/Computers/index.html saying he saw that log there so u know it wasnt me in there : P

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lmfao, you guys are so mean!

oh gosh.. that IS cruel. you have to feel sorry for the poor guy. (or girl.)



(note to self- i am not the biggest newbie in the universe! YAH! ehehe, jk)

ohh, that's funny! i almost pissed my pants.

lol poor poor noobs

:rofl: I have seen some funny chat before (I suggest some of you hang out on Yahoo's Hacker Lounge if you want a healthy dose of idiocracy), but this takes the cake! I agree this person has been watching too many movies, man, that is a total newbie.

C'mon, give the guy a chance :D haha

LMAO.... I almost feel guilty for it though.....

:rofl: thats cruel but he will learn basic o/s skills in the future

aw man im tearing up here, some people just dont learn do they wow

funny **** man funny ****

Oh geez... you guys are cold....

Then again, he could just be "acting" - kind of got that impression on the final round, for some reason... but... ROFL

Why am I never in IRC when things like this go on? Oh man... tears in my eyes on that one.

That's just sad!

Ammo

<~~~~~~Shakes head in wonder >:)

Hopefully they learn.

ccKid ::coffee::

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Originally posted here by draziw
Oh geez... you guys are cold....

Then again, he could just be &quot;acting&quot; - kind of got that impression on the final round, for some reason... but... ROFL

Why am I never in IRC when things like this go on? Oh man... tears in my eyes on that one.

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If that person was a total newbie then i feel a bit sorry for 'em. Your new, how are you supposed to know what is going on?

If that person was just acting and making total fools out of the people who where telling him what stuff was for what, then I find it f-ing hilarious. :)

oh come ON people...i mean yea its funny to have a little newbie reset his box when he doesnt know what he's doing and stuff, but having him deltree is just wrong and IMO incredibly lame. the whole POINT of sites like this is to TEACH, not torture for no reason.

basically, grow up guys(ok, i admint i did laugh alot, but the whole deltree thing is too much)...i mean it looks to me like some of you havent really gotten past the whole script kiddie "l3ts fux0r uþ 7h4t b0x0r f0r n0 g3wd r34s0n" attitude :-/

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Originally posted here by gstudios
If that person was a total newbie then i feel a bit sorry for 'em. Your new, how are you supposed to know what is going on?

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actually, i feel a more than just a "bit" sorry for them...i mean i can still remember the time when i might ask for advice from sombody on something as lame as that(not on the internet...it really wasnt arround when i was that stupid), and i can see now how this person(assuming they were serious) is going to have to explain to their parrents what happened and probably wind up spending money thinking that the pc is totaly shot now(i mean a person of that level of computer experiance DEFINATLY doenst know enough to re-install his OS). even if they just take it to a "repair" place, its gonna cost ATLEAST a good $50-$100 for the place to just look at it, figure out they need to re-install the os, and then go through re-loading all the software.

i laughed for a while but felt sorry for the n00b.. i mean, if it was for real.. then that n00b just wiped out his whole HDD.. lol

I feel sorta sorry for the guy too. I thought is was all pretty funny tell the delete stuff. I have a feeling he might have been fooling you. I don't think a complete newbie would not be able to see through deltree. Besides how many people would go back into a chat room for times. That is a lot of times to have to reconnect and get to the chat room. Most likely he just disconectted from the chat room adn reconnected minutes later.

i think i wet myself...?

c'mon, the kid couldn't use DOS, that's gotta be a joke right? I'm part of the Information Generation, for years DOS was my only friend, we had conversations for hours!

e.g.

Microsoft ® Windows DOS
© Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001

C:\DOCUME~1\LADYHAX0R> hi
‘HI’ is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file

C:\DOCUME~1\LADYHAX0R>want a biscuit?
‘WANT’ is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file

C:\DOCUME~1\LADYHAX0R>cd\

C:\ >biscuit?
‘BISCUIT’ is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file

Or that's how it would run in 'fake' DOS, the consolation prize for XP users like myself...but you get he idea, NOBODY should be allowed in chatrooms if they don't have the initiative to play around on their computer...survival of the fittest prevails once again....lol

XXX

If the guy actually was a newbie, then I fail to see the humour. They've come on to ask questions and to learn something and there treated horribly. It didn't look like they were acting hard and it didn't look like they were being rude. I don't see how it was warranted.

Humm, goes to show you some people really should not be at a computer. While I did find it funny, could this type of behavior also cause some people here to wonder how valid your answers are to other questions if the questions is not up to your level of knowledge? What has happened to the "only bad questions is one that is not asked?" Did this event help someone answer is no, could it change how they will use the computer, seek revenge possably. Like I said funny, but I will question any answers from the people involved in this event. In short this sort of thing can in the real world damage your professional computer standing.

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If the guy actually was a newbie, then I fail to see the humour. They've come on to ask questions and to learn something and there treated horribly. It didn't look like they were acting hard and it didn't look like they were being rude. I don't see how it was warranted.

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Agreed.

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basically, grow up guys(ok, i admint i did laugh alot, but the whole deltree thing is too much)...i mean it looks to me like some of you havent really gotten past the whole script kiddie "l3ts fux0r uþ 7h4t b0x0r f0r n0 g3wd r34s0n" attitude :-/

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Agreed.

I don't see where the guy was asking for this...he was being polite, and asking reasonable questions, and had the misfortune to connect to a bunch of idiots with nothing better to do than screw him over. I hope like hell he was messing with you, and that he knew better. If not, in this case, it's definitely a case of what comes around goes around, and I'm glad I'm not in for the retribution those guys deserve. Childish and stupid, not to mention practically criminal.

Deb :mad:

It is things like this that cause people to become script kiddies. Now, once the guy finds out what happened, he isn't going to want to learn how his computer works. He is going to want to get revenge. With a little help, he may have been ok, and could have been productive with his machine, but instead, he has been taught that screwing with other people is how it is supposed to be.

Thanks for creating another Script Kiddies.

Well when I said I thought it was funny, I was not laughing at the newbie. I hope mom and dads computer did not have any important files on their computer. I was laughing at the supposed experts professional conduct, or should I say total lack of it. Anyone that has worked in the field has had to deal with these sorts of questions or even more silly ones. Like I said the people involved answers to in other posts here will be looked at with suspect and assumed totally wrong.

I will admit, this was a bit funny. But, everyday someone on this board complains about script kiddies, and other cyber jerks that make our lives more difficult. This is the kind of stuff that makes script kiddies, and people who want to trash computers. sure they may have fell for it, but now they know that deltree c:\*.* /y erases a whole hard drive, can you guess what they are going to be doing to any computer they can get a dos prompt on now?

I know that the net doesnt really offer much amusement at times. but making your own (if this was real) is sometimes too easy. I work with people this mis-educated every day at my job. but that doesnt mean i have to tell them how to destroy their computers.

Just remember, every prank you pull on a n00b is just another quick way of them learning how to become one of the "bad" types. now your n00b knows deltree, next week maybe format/autotest, week after that they will figure out how to mess up the registry. who know. or maybe they will now sit in every chat room you do, making it impossible for you to give out real advise, their is nothing worse than going into a help chat and having someone say, "dont listen to them, they made me erase my hd"

anywho. just wanted to add my 2 cents worth.
funny, but a bit out of hand.

i think that ErrorFroz was pulling someones chain..... if he was dialing up from a "light flashing modem" wouldnt he have a dynamic IP?

either way, I enjoyed reading it!

It was funny until the deltree.. I'm quite amazed if that is a real log and so stupid people actually exist... That's quite scary..... :eek:

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Originally posted here by CuttThru
i think that ErrorFroz was pulling someones chain..... if he was dialing up from a "light flashing modem" wouldnt he have a dynamic IP?

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not necesarily...my DSL modem has blinking lights on it...i believe cable modems do too, so its quite possible that he was on a static IP and still a newbie with a blinking modem...


and NetSyN, i am one of the people who gave you negs, it has nothing to do with being 'trigger happy with the new "we need equal balance" crap'...i would have given it negs anyway. also, when i first read it i saw no indication that you were not involved OR that you were condeming what was done, it looked more to me like you were just going "haha look at the idiot n00b!"

Well, I think that this guy will definetly be motivated to learn how a computer works now. I remember when I first started working on a comp (386 dos 3.0) I messed it up several times on my own without anyones help. (Can you say Fdisk.) What did I do? Started to read the dos manuals and learned how everything worked, even down to the command.com, io.sys, and msdos.sys loading sequences. I hope that this guy will be brought about on the same path. I know that when I messed up my computer I had to learn why... Hopefully he will want to know also. But IMO what those other guys did was just totally uncalled for. Are these people really that ignorant? Well, I think the only ignorant people in there were the ones telling the guy to do all that stuff.

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Originally posted here by CuttThru
i think that ErrorFroz was pulling someones chain..... if he was dialing up from a "light flashing modem" wouldnt he have a dynamic IP?

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Good point... Let's see...
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192.139.219.40 has no reverse DNS configured.

Trying whois -h whois.arin.net 192.139.219.40
Fanshawe College (NET-FANSHAWE)
1460 Oxford Street
London, Ontario, N5W 5H1
CA
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Since when have colleges used dial-ups?? Well, that guy might even think his mainframe as a modem.... :p Or they might have cable modems or something like that and the guy just calls it "a modem".
The fact that there is no reverse DNS configured still supports the possibility of a real modem but I doubt it.

Take a look at the nicks! Oddballs...

hahah, poor guy... Sometimes Ignorance isn't bliss :D ... anywhoo thanks netsyn, i know you didn't mean to piss people off by that.

I am gonna guess that this is a joke. I seriously doubt anyone that can find a chat room can be that ignorant.

However, I think that if it were real, then the newbie kinda got what he deserved. I mean, just because someone tells you to do something, doesn't mean you should go out and do it. You cannot trust everyone. If you say "My legs hurt" and someone says "Go jump off the Empire State building, and that will cure it" should you do it? No, you should find out what might happen if you jump off that building (splat!!)

He should have went to google and searched for "deltree". He should have said, "Ok, I'll try those things, logged out, and did some research. I sure as hell wouldn't just blindly trust someone in a chat room that I didn't know. But then again, I am a cynical guy that's been through 5 years of college ( not that college is really tough, but I learned MANY THINGS about trust...stupid sorority girls :mad: ). Maybe he was some 12 year old that knew nothing.

Anyway, I think it's a prank.

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Originally posted here by ZeroOne

Since when have colleges used dial-ups?? Well, that guy might even think his mainframe as a modem.... :p Or they might have cable modems or something like that and the guy just calls it "a modem".
The fact that there is no reverse DNS configured still supports the possibility of a real modem but I doubt it.

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erm, colleges have dorms wired and NIC cards have blinking lights.

i can easily see this as some guy knowing a "friend" who told him that the light blinking ment he was getting hacked so he went to a chat to ask, and then this happened. i'm not saying that its definatly true, but i do know college people who are dumb enough to fall for something like this.

It was funny, I admit that. But yet, it was cruel. I agree with souleman, another script kiddie has been created. This stuff should be stopped, along with script kiddies.

Glad to hear this wasn't you NetSyn.

Round 1 through 4 I lmoa, but the last round, if it was for real, was pushing the j/k a bit far. But I don't believe it was for real. The the n00b had windows open it would have complained like hell about deleting files in use. I think he had caught on by that point and left 'cos he realised he wasn't going to get much help.

But in answer to the question - yes, there are some people who are this stupid.

I remember, many years ago now, selling a PC to a Lady (late 40's). I went round to her house and installed it for her to make sure she was OK and gave her an hours walk round of the PC. I even left 3 learn-2-use disks she could just drop in the CD and learn about windows/office. My last words to her on the way out of the door were: "Any problems, press F1 for help".

Maybe a week later I was passing and decided to stop by and see how she was getting on. I knocked at the door and she came out asking: "Where the hell have you been? I pressed F1 TWO DAYS ago!"

If this seems like an old gag to you, it is only because I have been telling this story for a decade and I have too have heard it told back to me in many variations. But this actually happened and it happend to me.

What do you mean stupid? This guy has a few questions and asks. Seems like the smart move to me. The only thing stupid is those guys taking him for a ride.

Just a short post, in the States many colleges and Universities have extensive modem pools, for remote access, of students, staff, faculity, and distant learning courses. They also support a host of other secure connect methods. Think about war dialin you had better come up with some pretty creative things cause they have defended against this since the late 80's. but it is typical for a dot edu to have a 192.xxx.xxx.x addy.

LMFAO!!!

ntsa :rofl: