Operating Systems, wow.

Lately I have been spending more time filling in my knowledge gaps, well today I decided I wanted to learn more about Operating Systems so I went to visit my trusty friend google and here is what I found, http://www.howstuffworks.com/operating-system1.htm

I knew about unix based operating systems, windows operating systems and macintosh but I thought it ended there. Now I am learning that it there are specialized operating systems made for robotics, industrial controll, mainframes and more. I have a diploma in Electronics Engineering so this is very interesting for me. I knew that you can program these chips called PLDs (Programable Logic Devices) and you could program processors and microcontrollers to be used in robotics, but I never thought operating systems were needed. I am a mix between a electronics hobyist and a computer geek, if you may call me that. I have a wide spectrim of interest when it comes to computers. Anyways to bring this thread to a point, has anyone here had any experience with operating systems other then Unix, Windows and mac OSs,. Also if you have used difernt versions of Unix what ones have you tryed.

Well, I played around with the short lived BeOS for a while.

I've messed around with the following OSes at one point or another:

MacOS 6-X
Novell 4x-5x
Windows DOS-Win2K
*Nix(Solaris 7-8, Redhat Linux5.2-7.2, Yellow Dog Linux, Suse, bit of VMS/VAX)

I think that's all of them. Never got to BEos or NeXT but wanted to try them.

What chips have you programmed? Im in the process of building my first hexapod using the Parallax Basic 1 (Im thinking of upgrading it to a Basic2e/p or Javelin chip eventually)

Novell, Solaris and Linux for me :)

I have worked with Windows(all), Novell, MacOS, OpenBSD, Solaris, SuSE Linux and OpenStep(I have a NeXT station pizza box)
Allmost all of the above (except windows) are Unix based.

I have worked with a few OS from time to time, some of them.

MacOS 6-X,Novell 3x-6x, Windows, Dos, OS/2, OS/400, BeOS, *nix, amos.
and many, many other have I played with, and disliked more or less. Today am I permanently hooked with FreeBSD :).

DOS, all the Win flavors, BeOS, Mac OS, Novell, OS2 Warp, several Linux distro's. I've tinkered with some others. This are just the main ones I've either goofed with or goofed up.....

One little toy I forgot. It's a psuedo OS. It's actualy a stand alone file manager, ala norton commander style. That actualy boots from its own floppy and has it's own UI. It's great for checking out any FAT formatted HDD's. It's great for a crashed Windows job. You can go in pull up and edit just about any file on the disk. It's called Adrenal Manager. It runs as DOS so it's a program actualy. But still it's cool.

versions of dos since ibm pc-dos, windows since win2.0, just recently playing around with rh7.2


then there's some others which i haven't messed with but are interesting

the Lego OS
http://www.noga.de/legOS/


The ASM based os
v2_0s
http://v2os.v2.nl/

Lego OS kicks butt.
Humm, do you mean experience as in I have used it, or as in I know it. There is a big difference. I have used Dos, Win (since 3.0), OS/2Warp, MacOS (since 6.1) (no OSX yet though), Redhat, Debian, Slackware, Caldera, Yigdrisal Linux (no longer exists), Suse, Minix, SCO, FreeBSD, NeXT Step, HpUX, Irix, AIX, PalmOS, WinCE, QTLinux (I think thats what its called), legOS, and also tested a couple different "floppy os'" like LOAF or some that someone wrote for fun.

Win since 3.1 , dos, MacOS, Linux (RedHat, Suse, Caldera).

A question: what kind of OS is Novell? I don't know anything about it

Novell is a network OS. M$ got there "inspiration" for Active Directory from Novell's Directory Service.

Gaaa... the years...

Let's see now.... Apple II (s/ 283) ROM Bootstrap (Hey it got my to my casset tape storage for my programs!) Then Apple DOS and everything up to Mac OS X (now a *nix) .. PC Dos from the begining (then IBM/MS/DR-DOS all the way up to 5.0/6.2/7.0) .. Linux from 1.0 RedHat to all the latest version (plus Slack, Yaggdrasil, SuSE, etc..) Solaris/SunOS (from SunOS 3 to Solaris 8) Windows (All) ... NetWare (Novell) from the S-Net to v.1 to 2.x 5.x (not got my hands on 6.x yet) .. and let's see now.. other random systems I'v had my hands in their guts from time to time... AIX 3.x/4.x .. VMS, MVS, QNX, IRIX, RTOS.. and I'm sure there have been some others..

Sooo.... there have been a lot that have crossed my desk at times.. Where is my Geritol now??

Soo... there are a few catagories: Single Tasking OS's (think DOS), True MultiTasking OS's (think *NIX, MVS, VM), and the "RealTime OS's" - (think RTOX, QNX, etc..)

Can anyone think of any other Main Catagories?

don't forget pocketLinux (it comes with the new Sharp pda's that have pullout keyboards). My apologies if someone already mentioned it and i didn't notice.

the website is http://www.pocketlinux.com

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Novell is a network OS. M$ got there "inspiration" for Active Directory from Novell's Directory Service.

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I have always wondered about the Novell OS. I heard a lot about Novell connectivity with Win2k server (GSNW and the like), but when I asked my professors about the OS and what it was like, they didn't know either! So I "Googled" and am downloading a trail version of Netware 6 just for kicks and giggles. If anybody else wants to grab a copy, go here. If the OS allows, I will see if I can grab a screenshot...

Oh yeah, speaking of professors, he told me about an OS called Banyon Vines in the Marine Corps days. I have never played with this OS before either, but from what I hear, it had a precurosor to Active Directory.

Maybe some of you good folks can shed some light on this. :)

Wow, all so many Operating systems, well for myself I have not realy experimented that much, I have tryed Windows 95, 98, 98SE And Caldera Open Linux, i have a few shell acounts, I believe one of them has Red hat. I plan on trying other operating systems when I get some money.

To answer MsMittens question, Unfortunately I have not programed any chips yet, but I am familiar with the 8051 microcontrollwer and the acompaning instruction set. I have a book called The 8051 Microcontroller and one called Digital Fundementals. the 8051 is certianly a fasinateing chip, when I go back to cvollege for technologist, now that I have technician under my belt, I will get the chance to program the 8031 microcontroller, simular to the 8051. I will also get experience with programing PLDs. I have however writen a few programs for the 8051 and simulated them on computer, I forget what the software was called. I see you are also in Canada, maybe we can get together some time, or talk on phone.

Thank you everybody for shareing your experience, I did not know there were so many difernt operating systems. It shows there is a lot of talented programers out there.

Myself I have worked with mostly with Mac OS (6-10), Dos-2000, and the old Apple and Comadore system. I also work with PalmOS.

Hmm, I have worked with the Tandy's basic computers (cassete tapes anyone?) trc-80, the Aplle II's and IIe's, MS-DOS from 3.0 up, win3.x and up, MacOs's (can't remember the versions.) Ibm's DOS, Win (all but XP, but thats coming soon), Redhat 7.2, And I have openBSD (thanks Hoggie) on cd but havn't tried it yet. WinCE, and some other palm os's (casiopeia one, can't remember which OS it was). Hmm what else? I think thats about it.

BTW: How is openBSD?

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Thank you everybody for shareing your experience, I did not know there were so many difernt operating systems. It shows there is a lot of talented programers out there.

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LOL, Like some other members have said, knowing and using are two different things. However, I find your field to very fascinating. I have never seen a chip engineer before. Is there a lot of people in the profession?

Ok how about this I program PLCs
I program in 4 different languages (plc languages) they are Siemens s6,and s7
Fix or dmax,rockwell rs links,
What i do is take an electrical drawing of a factory s process and turn it into commands that
the plc unit understands

To answer alittlebitnumb's question, it is a bit confuseing, I dont actualy woirk as a chip engineer, I do however have the knowledge but not experience or qualifications to do so. Therefore I dont know if there is a lot in the profecion, I asume it is big number. An electronics Technician is not actualy qualified to design circuits, but their qualifications alow them to apply for repair and maintence jobs. However with their knowledge they have the capabilitys of designing circuits, may are just interested in repair, I myself like both, though I only have the qualifications and don't actualy work as a Engineer. Electronic Technolgist however may do both design and everything a Technician can do. Therefor a Technologist may apply for a job in manufacturing, design, repair and mainence. Therfore if a go for the Technologist cource I may then apply for a job as a chip engineer if I so desired. I only have electronics technician therefore would only qualify to repair and maintian, I may also asemble electronics. I do have enough knoledge to design a electronic circuit and enjoy doing so as a hobby. I hope that answered your question.
I have seriously considered chip design and I certianly have the knowledge but not the experience or qualifications.

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Originally posted here by senbee
A question: what kind of OS is Novell? I don't know anything about it

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Novell as the OS usually are called by the public or more correct Netware (Novell is the name of the company and Netware one of the product's, the operating system).

Novell is from the beginning build for storage and transaktions of files, with other words a fileserver. During the years have Netware started to loose popularity and in the fight to get back their customers they have started to enhance and develop new product's for Netware.

Today do Novell talk about the name as a brand with many different product's to offer and Netware are only one of the products. Novell do also want to develop more platform independent products like ZEN for desktops etc. They have not really succeded yet and only the future can tell if they will win or loose.

Whats normally associated with Novell are:

- Border Manager (Proxy Firewall)
- ZENworks (Zero Effort Network, management tool)
- Netware (Their OS)
- NDS (Novell Directory Services)
- Novell Client (Client to access a Netware server, usually a *ain in the....)

And maybe something more I can't think of for the moment...

Feel free to correct if Im not correct, Im no CNE, just deals with a crazy admin every day :).

More to find on their website(s):

www.novell.com
support.novell.com