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Bible Code
I watched a program last night on Bible Code.
In the Catholic Bible, there are a few pages on code. A group of extremely talented Israeli scientists, using encryption and computers, discovered the code. The pattern seems to be:
2+d
2+2d
2+3d
It is said that if you skip every fifth, fifteenth, or fiftieth letter you can form a word. I found this interesting.
But that's not it. This code can supposedly predict the future. The following was found in the code:
Four Planes, two towers
Osama Bin Laden
Afghan, War
U.S.A.
April 19, 1995
Chariot of Fire
Slay women, infants and children
Itsaf Rabin
November
Assisin will assasinate
The last stanza (istaf rabin) was discovered before his assasination. A friend of a guy who was a good friend of Rabin gave him a letter to give to Rabin warning him. Rabin ignored it, and on the specified Bible date that he was to be assisinated, he was.
What do you think about this? I find this very interesting. Just thought I would share this with you all.
Silentstalker
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This has already been discussed, and anyone who has passed high school math should realize what comeplete crap this is. That system is so arbitrary that you could easily do it with a large phonebook, or any other sufficiently long piece of writing. Calling it anything other than random chance make you look very dumb and quite silly. Among those words would be hundreds that said "ask;fjb as'dfj sadfv.kjb errrlkihjn uuubbbwwett"
Enough monkeys at enough typewriters over a long enough time will eventually write the collected works of william shakespeare. Make up some little cryptographic system, and you won't even need that many monkeys.
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silentstalker: I suggest you go to your local library and check out the book named The Bible Code for more detailed information. I've read it myself, and it's worth it if you're interested in this type of thing. :)
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Don't read it, its just a trick to make you leave your house, and fall asleep, then you'll wake up without your clothes and money, and you will have a sore bum and a ball gag in your mouth. (that last part was from fallout, the game)
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I don't know were to even begin shooting holes in the whole bible code theory.
1. This would only work if you had an original un-translated copy
2. One miss spelled word and the whole thing doesn’t work
3. Fallout rulz
4. You saw it on T.V (need I say more)
5. No one can predict the future
6. Even if you could see the future why would you encode it in a book?
7. After this cam out a few guys decide to do the exact same thing with texts and captions from old playboy magazines. Guess what all you have to do is throw in enough text in and you can find anything you want.
8. I guess these Israeli scientists forgot to mention all the other cryptic stuff they found.
-"84 bob leaves his lights on"
-"Ia'm thelizardqueen"
-"flyingmonkeys 3attack atmidnight"
-"windo wsMEsuc ks"
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lol cwk9 u all so have some valid points respect 2 u :)
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it can be true or bullshit depending on your point of view...........people will always say it's random chance and other people will always say that the 'random' people are sacriligeous/going into denial. I think I won't state my opinion sinc there's no way to win.........
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cwk9, to answer your point 5. God knows all. He is the author of the Bible and knew then end before the beginning. It's hard to understand but it's true.
Onto point 6, read Proverbs in the Bible. A scripture from the last part of the book goes something like this, for it is God who concealeth and a king that searcheth out. So, God conceals this code that is specially designed for the end times when he know we will only have the technology now to decode it. It's purpose is to further prove the Bible's factuality and to show that God is all knowing. Why is it so hard to believe? Spies use codes that only the recieving party can read in clear, plain text.
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Originally posted here by cyb3rn3tik
it can be true or bullshit depending on your point of view...........people will always say it's random chance and other people will always say that the 'random' people are sacriligeous/going into denial. I think I won't state my opinion sinc there's no way to win.........
One of my favorite quotes right now: Debating online is like being in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
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I saw that on the tele one day... I hope this doesn't offend anyone but I was highly amazed on how much time these people have to actualy come up with something like that. The bible is a thousand some odd pages, and I think, well, it is just as simple as can be: a cooisidence.
Occams Razor: "The simplist explanation tends to be the correct one."
I'm not an Anti-Crist or a Satan Worshiper or any nonsense like that. I just don't believe in that "Bible Code" as being what it is publicised as being.
excuse my spelling. I can't speel.
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Freaky if it is true, but i dont believe in that sorta stuff
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Let me ask something, I am no christian or catholic, but I mean, why would they even put it in a code? What is the point? Why go to the trouble of putting all that into a code?
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hmmmm I started a thread called bible code here as well :P
heh oh well maybe we'll get some new perspectives...
/me walks away muttering **steal my idea would he!! we'll soon see about that!! He'll pay for this.....they'll ALL pay for this** ((insert evil laugh here))
;)
v_Ln
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This was posted before
Very interesting though...
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Sorry if it was posted before, I didnt see that. Anyway, don't you think it's a little odd that many of our every day events are in that.. shall we call it a 'document'? The 9/11 tragedy was in there, and the word 'Osama Bin Laden' was discovered before anyone knew who the hijackers were. I just find it a little facisinating, that's all...
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Originally posted here by Viper
Occams Razor: "The simplist explanation tends to be the correct one."
That's not really what occam's razor is supposed to mean...the theory is a lot more specific than that. What it basically means is that "When you have two competing theories which make exactly the same
predictions, the one that is simpler is the better." You can learn a bit more about it at http://www.weburbia.com/physics/occam.html
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I'll agree with thesecretfire. Any long bit of writing will contain many phrases people may contribute to "prophecy" or "foreshadowing". The longer the sample, the more possibilities for phrases such as this. If you want a more mind boggling example of the same principle, the number Pi contains every single volume of literature ever written or that ever will be written encoded in ascii. Any non-repeating, non-terminating decimal will.
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I read the book in 2 days and I could not beleave the information that It had in it.The book was a great read...and freakyyyyyyy!
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Is it a particular version of the bible? King James, Catholic Action, ???
I'm interested. Also is the translation they are using English or is it a previous language?
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Do that with any novel and you'll have the same result. By taking the 5th, 15th, or 50th letters of the Novel "The Truth" by Terry Pratchett (Happened to have it handy), I came up with the following characters (in their sets of three):
Udd eas eog eqe reh aod eei snn mou
From this, we can form several words going in the right order.
dam
dame
dare
dares
deer
deeds
do
dim
din
dino
god
green
his
had
has
ham
Odin
red
read
rod
rode
rods
same
seer
seen
sheen
udders
And those are just the words I can pick out in 5 minutes... There are probably loads more possibilities... Is that a coincidence? Do any of them have meaning? No.
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Hey guys -
The Code Book (by Singh) is a great book on cryptography, and also has a great appendix which basically debunks the whole bible code nonsense. The code works in non-religious books, which the author of the bible code specifically said it would not. Makes you think....
Other articles that debunk the so called bible code:
http://www.csicop.org/si/9711/bible-code.html
http://www.csicop.org/si/9803/bible-code.html
These are articles from a Skeptic Society and were published the monthly magazine.
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Actually the whole bible code theory was replicated, and confirmed by mathematicians at Harvard, Yale and Hebrew University. It was also independently confirmed by a cryptologist at the Department of Defense, so I think that would give it just a bit of credit.
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Originally posted here by Syini666
Actually the whole bible code theory was replicated, and confirmed by mathematicians at Harvard, Yale and Hebrew University. It was also independently confirmed by a cryptologist at the Department of Defense, so I think that would give it just a bit of credit.
First of all, just become someone works for the DOD or yale doesn't give them credit. Who are these people who have confirmed it. Do others agree with their proofs? Sure, you can make words with it, but as I said before, any meaning is simply coming from the interpretation of the decoder, not the original text itself. If you took a long enough string of random letters, you would eventually find the collected works of William Shakespeare somewhere in the string. Do a few simple operations on the string, and you could easily find it somewhere.
