Kevin mitnick publicity stunt????

ok i read up on blackcode that mitnick is to realese a book for sysadmins and ppl to do do with computer security, and i know that his probation ends in january

##Terms of Mitnick’s three years of probation — which ends in January — require that he keep his hands off all computers, software, modems, cell phones and any devices that would give him access to the Internet. His travel and employment are also restricted##

And he has said he has grew out of hacking

##Since his release from prison, Mitnick has made a living by using his ill-gotten skills as the basis for magazine articles, speaking engagements and a recent AM radio talk show in Los Angeles.
Mitnick swears that he’ll never hack again — but not because prison taught him anything.
“Prison had nothing to do with my rehabilitation,” Mitnick said. “I grew out of my hacking. Now I’m 38. There are no 38-year-old hackers out there.”##

What i was wondering is if mitnick could be encouraged to become an honoury AO member would this encourage some skiddiots(to learn not to do it) and general Pc users to come to AO? to encourage good computer security, as sites like hackers.com encourage blackhat behavor)

I know many of the AO users dont like mitnick, and others because of his so called lack of coding ability, what would u think? would this publicity stunt work to bring the masses to AO to learn, and improve the internet as a whole.

Preep
BC link: http://www.blackcode.com/news/view.php?id=269
mitnick info: http://www.kevinmitnick.com/ and http://www.takedown.com/

Yeah, why the hell not..

If he'd like to become a member, I think he could write good tutorials.
I hope he still recognises the ever so spammed and commercially exploited net..

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And he has said he has grew out of hacking

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I think that'd depend on the kinda of hacking mentioned..
Nowaday's Hacking is such a negativly loaded word..

I think I am not a hacker, I spend way to little time doing usefull stuff behind a keyboard nowaday's..

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"Now I’m 38. There are no 38-year-old hackers out there."

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sounds more like an excuse the media would actually buy, than a viable or even truthful reason.

Sure as long as he doesn’t bring hordes of script kidz with him.

Here’s my question who would you want to be a AO member more. Kevin Mitnick or Tsutomu Shimomura (the guy who caught him)?

lmao, good sugg, but mitnick has turned into a media whore, and tsutomu to answer that

Preep

Surely the guys who caught him have profiled his 'style' and knowledge, and if a load of info about him and tutorials with his style start popping up, they'll investigate his avoiding of the 'no computers' ban. It'll be hard for anyone to avoid surveilence for the first few months/years (or am I just paranoid? I don't live in the US anyway...but since when has that stopped the FBI? :D).

N.B. I know of Mitnick, I don't know exactly what he's done when and to whom. :)

check the kevinmitnick and takedown links at the first post :D and read away, in short he social engineered passwds out of admins to hack nokia, motarola etc to get chipset designs and the fbi had a 3yr manhunt, but some ppl dont like him

Preep

http://www.kevinmitnick.com/

Never before have I seen a more pathetic plea for uneducated endorsement of illegal activity. HAM radio license revocation?...please. Case of liberal misdirection propaganda. The man is a criminal, and deserves no respect....just as the kids that follow in his muddy footprints deserve none.

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/mitnick.htm

He's a criminal, and deserves no sympathy. And before you piss and moan about the propaganda directed against him, make sure you read the 'PLEAD GUILTY' line. No innocent man pleads guilty.

Ouroboros

In P.S. Antionline has plenty of technical experts, and doesn't need convicted felons to contribute to it. There are no limits to knowledge, but there are limits to law...respect them.

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No ones disputing that he’s a criminal but he did serve his time.

he is kinda a skiddiots idle but i think he would be able to contribute a lot to the AO community

Yeah, I believe that he dosen't encourage s'kiddioism. So, why the hell not bring him here? I mean, it's a great forum, site, and IRC chat. He has served his time. He could write lots of tutorials. Tell us some stories to keep us occupied(I'm sure he has plenty of things he could tell us about his life). I don't want script kiddies being brought here, I'm sure he dosen't either. He even works with security now, isn't that what we are here for, security? So, I would prefer he kept it secret that he joined AO. Augh, I hope that we don't get little script kiddies posing as him(just poped into my head). But, I guess it won't happen, if this dosen't get out to the media. But, I think it would be great to bring him, and the guy who caught him in here, it would be great knowledge to have from him and the guy who caught him. They could contribute to this community lots, and have lots of knowledge to share and teach us.

Thanks for your time~

yeah he was dumb and served his time,
Some ppl say he had to get frends to code his expliots for his, and he hacked the sites all the same way, social engineering, sendmail and finger.

Some of those covicted hackers later reform to become, pretty good security consultants, and AO needs more aspects of computer security it could do with two arguements ex-hackers + admins, balance is the key!

dont turn this thread into flame wars, i know how kevin mitnick is frowned apon, ty v much,

And in the system he has served his time, for the crime he comitted.

Preep

its good to see some of you has an open view to computer security, after all Jp himself interviewed many hackers #March 3, 1998, Wired News does a report on JP's interview of "The Pentagon Hacker".

remeber Ao is all about learning, if you refuse certain areas, your not gonna learn about it, and i never once said invite hackers to AO, mitnick is releasing books on computer security for ppl like us, can u imagine the threads mitnick could write? and the attention he could bring to the site

Preep

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In P.S. Antionline has plenty of technical experts, and doesn't need convicted felons to contribute to it. There are no limits to knowledge, but there are limits to law...respect them.

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On this, we can agree. I don't think that Mitnick is anyone special. He just socially engineered people to gain access to various systems. Big whoop. The technical techniques he used would be way outdated nowadays, as would most of his knowledge (as he's not supposed to have anything to do with computers during his parole).

Personally, I think some of the way his case was handled was shoddy as hell, but he did break the law, and he's paid his dues. I doubt he could contribute a whole hell of a lot to AO though. He'd probably have to spend a year or so catching up on how things are before his technical knowledge is up to snuff. Then again, this is all hearsay, so it doesn't really matter.

Mitnick would give AO a bad name. I just posted a reply to another Mitnick thread located here.

personally i think he could become an asset to us at AO...oh and chsh...he could not touch computers or anyhting with access ot the net but he does have access to books :) so he will be up to date or atleast i would in his position :)

Kevin Mitnick wasn't a brilliant computer hacker, nor did he have any extra special talent when it came to technology. He was a social engineer, that was his talent. So to sum it up he was a talented liar. Period.

His only fame was that he avoided being caught for sometime. And got less than a fair trial. I dont understand why everyone is on his nuts....he's 38 yr old history.

hey quad arent u getting around that same age? :P ...jk...well i guess that maybe true but it would be nice ot hear wot he has to say....maybe it iwll str8en some kiddy scripts

i knew this would be a risky thread to post, as different people have different views on mitnick

Most of you hate him for the lack of coding ability he possesed, i dont love the guy, but this was a fictional question, to see aceptance of so called "reformed hackers", as many of these ppl become admins, and generally to see what certain people look for on antionline.

But mostly to see if there are any changes in opinion to these new statments he has made, and since he`s writing a book on computer security, if u would accept a person like that.
{any of u think the book will be any good, or is this an attention grabbing scam, im order for him to make money, and not love in prison :P]

Preep

I think the first thing that mitnick will do when he get's off probation is spend the next 47 hours watching digital porn, mabey a little crying too

I think anyone is welcome here as long as they know how to behave. I agree with huntx7 that he would probably like to keep it secret that he joined here. He might also feel like some advert for the site and require a big money for joining.
I noticed JP answered "Hell No" to the poll, I'd like to hear his thoughts about this?

(Btw, it's funny how this is a security site but you can not even vote as anonymous although many of us try to surf so... :p)