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Im only interested in messing around with a friends server. But i want to know if this site is for people against hacking or for hacking. Or what? And in reading i got into some interesting security topics ill cover eventually but for now id like a simple way to bring down someones server...
am i in the right place
This is a site against hacking. Security pros working to maintain security. If you are looking for a way to bring down a server, this is definitely NOT the right place.
Regards, hope this helps.
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check out the FAQ, all the answers you are looking for will start there.
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Your definitely in the wrong place. If you had read the FAQ's, you could have saved yourself this post.
hmmmmm do u r eyes work? hackers know the weakness in your system shouldnt you ring a bell ? this is seriously a security site why would u want 2 take a server off line r u trying 2 look 31337 <rant>me`s thinks this will go suicidal</rant>
<sarcasim>i named the suicidal dood swinging jimmy been seeing him a lot lately why not name him</sarcasim>
ok, thanks. i just wanted to know. And i guess it matters to me what you think, being the founder of this site and all. I have a webserver hosting some sites which have been hacked before. Thats also why im interested in those security issues i mentioned earlier. I just wanted to let you know that its not my interest to go around hacking servers. Its just a prank on a friend who hosts a small little server for personal use. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up...ill be posting my security questions then...
thanks
mars
I repeat my recommendation to read the FAQ's page (and some of the other 'newbie' info.). Questions like the one you just asked will not be tolerated for long.
Cheers:
Erm - I certainly think of myself as one of the good guys. By and large it's the same information, just a question of what you do with it.
I this is a friend then why take his little server off-line? A friend would not play such a joke! Oh you host a few sites you attempting to understand what your sys admin is telling you? Want to proved someone wrong then at least learn to read the FAQ. In short is no site for the ABC's of hacking any site. Want to test your own site security fine go ask the person you hired to watch out for the boxes ot the hosted site :D
i dont mean to be rude, but you guys need to get out more...it was just an innocent question. i was surfing one day and i found the site and i thought there might be a fast way to play a trick on a friend. i looked into it for a few minutes i had free and decided to ask instead. i had no idea i would get this kind of response. i guess hacking is a huge deal to programmers, but the other 4 billion people in the world its not a top priority, let me assure you. therefore playing a trick on a friend is simply 'playing a trick'.
anyway, i dont want to start a fight or anything, i just want you guys to know it was an insignificant question. nothing to get worked up about and say things like im blind for not seeing the title, or im incapable of reading the faqs or i should feel bad for playing such a trick on someone...
anyway, i hope you guys can find it in your hearts to forgive my ludicrous inquiry,
thanks again,
mars
mars123456: On this website, hacking is a VERY BIG deal. It may not be to you, but you are at a website where most of the people here are sys admins, or aspire to be. People who "play jokes" like the one you are talking about are their worst nightmares. What you are talking about doing is something that can cause very serious problems for some people. On the other hand, if you have security knowledge, or would like to gain some, you post is fairly well thought out, worded well, spelled correctly, and you seem like a fairly intelligent person. Why don't you give up the ghost on hacking a server, and settle in for what can be an enjoyable learning experience?
Deb :D
Bringing down a server isn't viewed as a prank around here. It's a very serious offence and isn't tolerated as acceptable behavior. and this site is for the good guys.... although it tends to attrack both, but it's for the good guys.Quote:
Its just a prank on a friend who hosts a small little server for personal use.
thank you deb. i already did. thanks for the tip and i really do understand how the sysadmins must feel. im not a sysadmin, im a biochemist and a financial analyst and a computer programmer by hobbie. so i will relate to how you guys feel about me posting what i did on your site.
i apologize to everyone! i certainly never thought it would cause such commotion. anyway, hope everyone has hack-free day!
bye
mars
Well, in my opinion this is a security site against hacking, but it is also promoting hacking by allowing users to figure out thier system therefore giving them inside information that will eventually lead them to gather that infiltrating other peoples systems will benefit them to further their knowledge of OS's...
ok, taking debs advice, let me dive in then. im a newbie obviously. i have a win2kserver running a few sites. i have most services turned off because i realize they are an easy entrypoint. i like working on my server from remote locations. so i started looking into it and found out about iis html thing and the iis remote snapin. i understand the remote snapin(mmc) is only for intranets and that html is for internet remote admin. i tried it but i cant remember, i dont think i liked the interface. seemed kinda complicated. so i used the ftp site for some time but this was kinda insecure cause at the time i didnt understand much about IIS security and NTFS security. so i moved on to terminal services and thats what i use at the moment.
my question is more about which is best for administering a service remotely? the actual iis html site thingie? is that really secure? i remember it used a special port, 3951 or something. which i cant remember if it was under SSL, but in order to use SSL i think i ran into the problem of certificates which i had to buy? cant i just make a certificate?
mars
im sorry everyone, but playing a prank on your friend is usually just plain funny. i'm a net admin for a tiny biz, but i can still see the humor in your prank, mars. as long as it doesnt turn into a hobbie, a little messing with people heads can be just the thing for a boring afternoon.
i'm not sure about the certificate thing, but there is plenty of software that will allow you to remotely admin. most you have to configure on both computers. i dont know if this will help but here are a few links…
http://netwinsite.com/surgeftp/manual/ssl.htm
http://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~ftp/Crypto/
http://phaos.com/products/category/communications.html
http://www.verisign.com/
Mars123... you're a great guy and very clever also. The problem is we get alot of people over here who ask things like how to 'hack' hotmail to find out if his/her girlfriend is still loving him and you get a bit pissed if people ask that on a SECURITY site crammed full with sysadmins who desperatly trie to keep does guys OUT of their servers.
I dont understand why people gave you negative antipoints for just being honest, but i understand why they're pissed.
mars , cheers for staying calm i agree sometiems some ppl do overreact *cough * techie chick*cough* , just messin tc
mars alot of annoying little shits come on and say stupid things like " comeo n give me negs i want them this way i get banned and win" i, IMO thats really arrogant if someone doesnt like the site or its members why stay there? Why not leave and save us all some nerves. Dont get me wrong I'm not telling u to leave lol
O.K., first I wanna get things strait with the ****er that threatened me putting some **** saying i'm gonna be banned, personally if you don't like my opinion you can go suck a ****ing dick, I didn't do ****, you act lie this website is top ****, if you wanna threaten me saying your gonna ban me, do it, big ****in deal, not like it's a big loss, I don't benefit from posting my opinions on here, furtermore, if you don't like me, shove it, I could really care less.. Well seeming as though this might probably be my last post I have one thing to say to the idiot that game me negative points, your a homo, you didn't my my point of view, so now i got negative points, so go **** yourself, have fun jerking your dick watching gay porn while I **** your mother.. Thanks you ****in hippie
I don't understand...If this guy is trying to bring down his "friends" server, why is it rated positive? Maybe I just don't get it since I am new...
O.K., first I wanna get things strait with the ****er that threatened me putting some **** saying i'm gonna be banned, personally if you don't like my opinion you can go suck a ****ing dick, I didn't do ****, you act like this website is top ****, if you wanna threaten me saying your gonna ban me, do it, big ****in deal, not like it's a big loss, I don't benefit from posting my opinions on here, furtermore, if you don't like me, shove it, I could really care less.. Well seeming as though this might probably be my last post I have one thing to say to the idiot that game me negative points, your a homo, you didn't my my point of view, so now i got negative points, so go **** yourself, have fun jerking your dick watching gay porn while I **** your mother.. Thanks you ****in hippie
Canibudda.. Dude.. thats an automated message.. =\ When you get back in the green it will go away... but from the way you chose to present yourself, you not going to be wanted here anyway. Goodbye.
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"Hacker" = good guy who has a thirst for knowledge, but not a thirst for crime
"Cracker" = bad guy who has a thirst for knowledge that will make him/her a 'better' criminal
This is an anti-Cracker site, but due to the misunderstanding of the jargon, also anti-Hacker (but not really). Get it?
Ouroboros
Well, seems to me this site is promoting hacking by unfair treatment, if more servers go down thats the webmasters fault for letting immature people control his website, Today I got a very, very stupid message saying, "you been asking inappropriate questions like "How Can I Hack HotMail"? Stop!", Yet I never even asked ONE question reguarding anything, the only thing I do on here is state my opinions, seems to me someone likes harrassing me about my point of view, if you don't like me, you can go suck a dick, or you can simply ignore me, you don't have to ****ing threaten me with your lame and immature lies saying i'm asking **** you came up with right out of ****ing nowhere, so i'm continuing to protest until this harrassment stops, or I get banned, if I do it won't be a big loss, because all i do on here is chat and state my opinions, and if you don't like it, you can take YOUR opinion and shove it up your ass...
Man, this is just too too too much. I'm a teenager, and I don't even act like that. Please, this is not a place to vent your hissy-fits. Seriously, show some respect. Since you have the right to state your opinions, I guess we have a right to state ours. You can't walk into the AO territory, state your mind, ask questions that the FAQ simply states aren't supported by this website, and expect to walk away with a few positive Anti-Points and praise for your outspoken nature. This just doesn't happen, and until you realize that, your stay here at AO will probably turn out quite hectic.
The overall rating of the thread is positive. If you notice, he has been negged for the original post, but others have been given greenies for their positive feedback. Overall, the sound advice has earned more greenies than the original post, and canibudda's freakish fits, have earned negs. Overall, the sound advice prevails.Quote:
I don't understand...If this guy is trying to bring down his "friends" server, why is it rated positive? Maybe I just don't get it since I am new...
Hope this enlightens you a little bit.
Regards.
Ahh, thanks for the insight, I guess that makes sense :-D
Um, last I knew, knowledge wasnt considered inside information. tips and tricks, weaknesses and strengths, expliots and holes are all available for almost any OS or any computer system - in volumes - in this link:Quote:
Originally posted here by CaNiBuDDa
Well, in my opinion this is a security site against hacking, but it is also promoting hacking by allowing users to figure out thier system therefore giving them inside information that will eventually lead them to gather that infiltrating other peoples systems will benefit them to further their knowledge of OS's...
www.google.com
This site doesnt promote hacking. It promotes knowledge. It also discusses and discovers the latest kiddie tools and scripts so preventions can be found. If you consider that promoting hacking....well, so be it. Its all in what you make of it.