need help stopping a pedophile!!!

Im hoping that some of you out there can help me with this problem. My cousins' two daughters, 12 and 13 have been contacted by a guy through aol chat. This guy says he is 13 yrs old but he is getting too personal and is scaring the girls. He is asking things like if the girls are virgins, where they are living, what school they go to, etc. I have a feeling that this is not legit. I have his aol screen name. I was wondering if there was anything that I could do to put this guy out of business or if i can verify that this guy is legit. If he is not, i want to put him away for a good, long time. I want to gather evidence of this and am doing so by saving all of the chat sessions. I plan to go to the authorities, but I would like to track him down to his isp. Any help would be appreciated. I know that some would frown on this as "cracking" but I am worried about my cousins' daughters and any other girls that he might be trying to "get" Thanks for your concern.

Well, if he's on AOL Chat then his ISP is AOL. :) Just don't let them talk to him anymore, pedaeophilia is a disease and it's not gonna be cured by him going to jail. Just get them away from him if you truly believe he's not really 13 or whatever.

contact the IFCC immediately. Bring this information up with your state police, and AOL. If you can find out what state the guy is from. Contact the state police in that state.

Step 1. contact the FBI; Step 2. contact your local police department Step 3. contact AOL. Step 4. Let the FBI & Local PD set up a sting on the guy. You just stay out of it.

If you have the screen name of the person doing this then you need to contact the ISP and the Police. There are private groups out there that police this type of stuff online and I am sure that AOL has a community that does this to al-beit it might be underground. Some of these group are made up of law enfourcement types..

http://www.ilj.org/stalking/cyberspace.htm
http://www.onlineharassment.com/

Go here, and follow through to your state. You'll find an online complaint form for reporting abuse, etc.

I like Fakeboy's suggestion. That's what you should do and contact law enforcement personally. Police dept. should have a section with an internet crime division. Once they take it up they would probably contact the feds and set up a sting. Provide all the information you gathered, but don't do the detective work yourself.

First step is to contact your local Police and file a report, many PD's now have cyber crime units that may be able to log in as using the right names and track the person, do not attempt to do it yourself unless you know everything you are doing. If it is an AOL chat room then give the police the information about the user name and the room involved. If you get no action from the local police buut have filed a report and have a case number go to the FBI then see if they will help, and as another option log the chat and send it to [email protected] as to the room involved and record of that was said. If it is AOL and they are using their IM then it could be anyone anywhere, as all IM you can save the log of the chats or highlight the text and paste into a notepad text file. If you want to stop it then change the IM or user name and or block contact from this user but they may change their name and re-contact. Lastly move the computer into an open space in the house so all activity can been seen at any given moment. While younger members here may not like this idea there is nothing that can replace a parent that is involved with what their child is doing while on-line. Parents are not the enemy, and there are far worse people out here check out the links of paldie.

After you report this incident to the proper authorities, you could do somethings to help resolve the problem yourself. First, and you probably already know this, a responsible adult should be supervising all activity that your cousin's kids conduct on the internet. Secondly, you or someone else could take on the girls' AOL identity. People often forget that the computer hides identities of BOTH sides. You don't know who he is, and he wouldn't know that he is talking to you or a minor. Do some social engineering, and you might make better progress learning where he lives, maybe what he does for a living, and maybe even if he is a 13 year old or not. I guess it all depends on how much time you have, and if you feel it is worth your effort. Be careful not to give the suspect's AOL handle out, who knows, that sicko could be lurking about here....Good luck...keep your family safe

I appreciate all of the support and the help....I will try to get this taken care of quickly and efficiently. I will be taking this to the authorities as soon as i get the info I need. Thanks again for everything ;-)

Get him to message you when the message pannel is open go into a command prompt, go to start run type command enter. then in the prompt type netstat enter it'll tell you all IP's that are connected to your computer. you can make some educated guesses to eliminate which active connections are theirs. Now run a tracert to his IP. it'll hop around till it get's to his local aol router which should hit pretty close to home before aol masks it. That way your threats can hit a bit closer to home something like I wonder how the Police in Denver would feal about your actions. It should get him to stop messageing you. Messageing his ISP may get him kicked off his isp but major isp's like aol, at&t, earthlink etc. just boot them and take logs but they don't persue legal recourse against them unless they are supenad for the info. http://www.cyberangels.com/ will help out but they are pretty back logged. Just make sure you log all conversations you have with this guy and email the logs to the various sources.

I will keep you all updated on what is happening with this problem. Hopefully, we will see this guy taken care of :-)

Zeph. I thought all the IM converstions were all hosted on servers, not actually connecting to others machines. I thought to connect to their machine you have to try something like an IM file transfer or something. Pretty easy to trick someone into this. Just say you're sending a pic of yourself. Get a file, any file, just make sure it's no more than like 200k at the most otherwise they may get suspicious and break the transfer. Rename the file with a .jpg format and send it away. When it connects get to the DOS prompt like Zeph said and do a netstat -a. Then do a tracert or use neotrace or some other program to find generally where their ISP is located. However, I've found that trying to do this with someone connecting with AOL then logging on a different IM user name always ends up with a tracert in VA. I think AOL puts a lot of their US clients through proxies there, but I have no proof and it's really just a theory on my part. But I've tried it with people in Ohio and here in Colorado and it always takes me to VA.

anyway, good luck th3>kLuTz.

Zeph(or anyone else for that matter), if I'm wrong feel free to correct me.

GEL

Zepherin thanks for the CyberAngels link I wwas trying to remember them but could not a have long trashed the link

This might seem a little obvious, however, someone should tell the two girls that they are proud of them for telling a responsible adult about what was going on.

I would suggest going to AOL first, since they control the account information, including real name, location, age, etc, since almost all AOL accounts are paid by credit card. Hence they can look in the logbooks for said username and determine if it is legit or bogus, etc. They can't release the info to you, of course, but if you could get a copy of a chat conversation involving this person and send that along, it may incite AOL to investigate. They are bound by law to report any activity of that kind to the FCC, FBI, and any other related enforcement agencies.
Going to the agencies first only creates a backup in the system, and has to go through AOL anyway...

Ouroboros

any updates on the situation? Plan of action? Action took? Some people like to hear the process & conclusion.

You asked on how to get info on this person so here are a few ways.

1.) I would first suggest getting him to email them. You can get a log of information from the headers in an email. That will also tell you if he is really an aol user or using the aol instant messenger which is free to anyone. Look for his mail server in the headers and unless he really is covering his tracks that should give you an idea of his ISP.

2.) Second you can go to http://hometown.aol.com and search for screen names of aol users and see if they have a personal web page with aol.

3.) Search other instant messenger apps for the same screen name to see if he is using those as well which may contain profile info or something else he has missed. I would suggest http://profiles.yahoo.com , http://web.icq.com/ and http://www.deja.com/usenet for a few

4.) They also have EmailFerret which is beneficial when searching for an e-mail address when you have a person's real name.
You can download it at http://www.ferretsoft.com/netferret/index.html

5.) Search aol classifieds and personal ads for the screen name
Search classified ads at http://classifiedplus.aol.com
Search personal ads at http://love.aol.com/

Those are just a few ways to see what info you can dig up on an aol user. I would suggest using all of them but the most information can be gained from an email. Unless of course he uses a hotmail or yahoo account or some other free internet email. Just a few suggestions, hope they help.

If you really think this is a problem you should contact authorities, they can get info quicker and more accurately than you could so pass it along to them.

dAggressor

OK, heres the plan, I just found out about this problem yesterday. I talked to the girl's mother. She is going to watch when they are online and if he starts the questions again, she is going to make sure that the chats are saved. I am starting this evening, after work, and am going to follow the suggestions given in these posts. I will keep all of you up to date on this. Like i said, i just found out and have talked to these girls' mom. Yes, these girls have been given a "pat on the back" for talking to their mom about this. Thanks again for all the help. News in a few hours :)

Way To Go.... klutz, Being Smart, and Playing it safe. Don't need you getting yourself in trouble...

Ok, heres the scoop on this hunt. I have not been able to track this bastard down. I can tell when he gets online to chat, because I have added his aol name to my list. He has only been online three times for a couple of seconds each time. I tried everything but going to the authorities to find out who he is. I have a friend who has an aohell acct looking up the username to find info. I don't know how to "social engineer" an email to get him to reply. Can anyone help please? I really want to catch this guy.....He is good about hiding....no other accts under his screenname that i can find in any chats. I appreciate the help.

Also, just as a note, the guy who neg'd me saying - I think it's you and your trying to cover your tracks and want to learn how though a lame attempt at social engineering. ....I hate pedophiles and if you want to know about me, just ask...I aint got nothin to hide.....So, if you spout off like this.....you better have evidence to prove it. I hate pedophiles and would gladly erase their miserable lives. (I got hit with -50 antipoints cause of this one person)

edit------....I hate pedophiles and if you want to know about me, just ask...I aint got nothin to hide.....So, if you spout off like this.....you better have evidence to prove it. I hate pedophiles and would gladly erase their miserable lives. (I got hit with -50 antipoints cause of this one person)--------------(these are my words, not the luser that hit me with the negs)

To get him to send you an email, either get the little girls to ask (which I don't recommend) or use their account to send him a message and get him to email you that way. Maybe ask for a pic or some other reason for an email. Just my suggestion.

Also (I am not an AOL user so this is just a guess) most messenging systems maintain a log, if you can find it it may log ip addresses as well as user names, especially in file transfers. Or a packet sniffer may give you some ideas, but that will probably just be the messenger server, but may be worth a try.

If he is only online for a few seconds I would think he is going into "invisible" mode instead of getting offline. He would appear as offline that way, but could still use messenger. Next time you see him online then off message him and see if he answers.

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