Man arrested for burning kitten on grill

I just read an article that made me sick to my stomache.

Quote:

---

Originally posted on CNN
A man was arrested Tuesday for allegedly burning a kitten on a barbecue grill as several other people stood around and watched in amusement.

---

How sick and demented can one person be? Then you have several people standing around watching...

Quote:

---

Originally posted on CNN
A witness pulled the scorched, 7-week-old tabby from the hot coals, but it was severely injured and had to be put to death.

---

This is not even the worse part of it..... Can you believe what they were doing while the kitten was on the hot coals?

Quote:

---

Originally posted on CNN
"They kept saying, `Meow, meow,' and they were poking at it with a stick,"

---

Please, there is no need for stupidity in this thread, if you think this is funny or amusing. Don't show your ignorance. Go somewhere else...

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/16/bur....ap/index.html

Quote:

---

Originally posted on CNN
Scott said she and other residents stayed up Friday night trying to nurse the kitten with an eye dropper of milk. But animal control officers decided that because of its respiratory injuries and inability to swallow food, it had to be destroyed.

"If you would have seen him, you would have cried,"

---

It is a strange and shocking story indeed...

What can I say? Some people do not have a heart.

That must have been a slow and painful death to the cat, and I was wondering, how would any of those guys feel if thet were on the grill and others were poking at him with a stick going "ouch,ouch" in a degrading way? People really need to think before they act.

What a sick fking evil thing to do.
I wouldnt do that to my worst enemy, never mind a poor, helpless animal.

Bastards like like should be tortured...

What can I say, that is truly pathetic… They sound like good candidates for compulsory euthanasia to me

I am totally underwhelmed

MrC

how could some 1 do this i personnaly like animals and wouldnt hurt 1 and 2 a 7 week old kitten what harm could it have done to him he must be a sick demented weirdo

It is wierd and cruel what some people consider fun. I do not like cats but I would never do anything like that to a cat or any other animal for that matter. I guess most of it is because I was brought up in a family whose house was almost a petting zoo, we have had rabbits, ducks, dogs, hamsters, gerbils, and even a cat. Now we just keep dogs as pets.

RadG

I'm sorry all, but I'm still in shock. They were SHOVING the kitten into the hot coals.. That cats was being Fricking burned to death, and they found this entertaining...... HOW? How can you justify this? I just don't get it....

let's do the same to him....

There is really no justification. However, some people find torture fun... heh, there was Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer. There are sick mofo's out there man

:sick:

wow thats really ****ing sick an i don't really like animals all that much but that is something beyond wow were was these people humanity(the by-standers) shurely thay could have stoped it well i guess that goes to show how ****ed up some people are.

goddamn :-s

The bastards should all be subject to the hammurabi code: eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Let's burn them. I mean, that's just .... ****! I'd have started wailing with a baseball bat, kickin ass and taking names. Who the hell finds this amusing, anyway? One sick person, maybe, but a group of 10-12? AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! I want to despense some indescriminate justice.

Fry them. With some farve beans and a nice chianti. And then poke them -- with tazers.

*****s.

Quote:

---

Originally posted In His Signature by twistedphreek
"Arguing with someone on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded." -Uknown

---

It Should Be:

"Arguing with someone on the internet is like running in the special olympics. No matter what the outcome, you're still retarded." - B4D-S3CT0R

granted the man doing the grilling may have issues, but does he deserve jail for it? It's just a cat. Just like steak is just a cow. Does the cat have more rights than a cow because it's cute?
I think not.

this shouldn't be an even thread, this is a good point.. to many threads are even... you most give or take points in every thread... it makes no sense...

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by xdadenx
granted the man doing the grilling may have issues, but does he deserve jail for it? It's just a cat. Just like steak is just a cow. Does the cat have more rights than a cow because it's cute?
I think not.

---

Do you have issues? Name one good reason why the man does not deserve jail time? You don't see us taking fricking cows, and pushing them in a fire pit and saying "MOO, MOO" while poking them with a stick. You are really sick, sick man, sick.


We are talking about a group of people torturing a baby kitten For Amusement.....

Quote:

---

this shouldn't be an even thread, this is a good point.. to many threads are even... you most give or take points in every thread... it makes no sense...

---

What does this have to do with the current discussion? And why should this not be a thread? It's chit chat man...

Quote:

---

granted the man doing the grilling may have issues, but does he deserve jail for it? It's just a cat. Just like steak is just a cow. Does the cat have more rights than a cow because it's cute?
I think not.

---

Some people think cows are cute too (or even sacred but that's beyond the point). However, even if somebody was hungry enough to eat a cat (playing devil's advocate here), they would be humane enough to kill it quickly and then cook it. The bottom line is, these guys were not cooking a cat becasue they were hungry, they were torturing a cat because they thought it was funny. It is not funny. It's sick.

actually.. i'd like that person to burn in flames for all eternity so he'd know what its like to be burned and poked at...

First things first. I don't know about even threads and points or whatever so leave me alone about it (reply to B4D_S3CT0R). Second, s0nIc your quote at the bottom of your post is hipocritical of your post. Merciless killer huh?

I've got a couple of good reasons why he doesn't deserve jail time. I read the article in full and it was his kitten, not some poor little kid's. At any point in time he can decide to end the kittens life. Most of the time this is done humanely at an animal shelter, but I'm sure people shoot horses. (Which may still be humane) Now lets take animal testing into account here. (The following is a hypothetical) Dr. Jones decides to test Vioxx on his lab cat. The initial batch of Vioxx causes the cat's joints to swell tearing all of it's tendons and ligaments. The cat is now hobbled and in severe pain for the rest of it's days (Not too many). The cat now looks like the stay-puff marshmellow man (ghostbusters) and the doctor invites his fellow doctors and the hot intern to look on as the doctor pokes fun at the cat for the duration of its life (The doctor kills the cat after the joke wore off). This too is "sick". But the fact of the matter is that regardless of this mans ability to judge between "good and evil" he didn't commit any real crime. No property damage, no harm to another (human), or anything else. Calling the police to break up the barbeque would be acceptable just because others may not want to see it or smell it. But 5 years in jail for violating a social moray?

It's completely disgusting. I can't think of much else that exemplifies evil...

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by xdadenx
he didn't commit any real crime.

---

So xdadenx, Is this a crime?

Quote:

---

Originally posted ASPCA by ASPCA
A horrible case of animal torture occurred in Cahokia, Illinois last December. Two juveniles tortured a friendly cat and videotaped the event. They then sold copies of the video to their peers for $6 a tape.

---

Thank You for the Felony Animal Cruelty Bill

Quote:

---

Originally posted
AN ACT RELATING TO ANIMALS; INCREASING CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR CRUELTY TO ANIMALS; PROVIDING FOR SEIZURE OF ANIMALS; PROVIDING CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR INJURY TO OR HARASSMENT OF A POLICE DOG, POLICE HORSE OR FIRE DOG; REPEALING AND ENACTING SECTIONS OF THE NMSA 1978.

"30-18-1. (NEW MATERIAL] EXTREME CRUELTY TO ANIMALS CRUELTY TO ANIMALS--PENALTIES--EXCEPTIONS.

A. Extreme cruelty to animals consists of a person:

(1) willfully or maliciously torturing, mutilating, injuring or poisoning an animal; or

(2) cruelly killing an animal.

B. Whoever commits extreme cruelty to animals is guilty of a fourth degree felony and shall be sentenced pursuant to the provisions of Section 31-18-15 NMSA 1978.

C. Cruelty to animals consists of a person:

(1) knowingly or recklessly mistreating, injuring, killing without lawful justification, torturing or tormenting an animal; or

---

yeah it's just a cat, it isn't even a conscious creature all this is true...but it's a living creature that suffered unecessary pain not because of nature but simply because of the violence brought by a living creature. No where else in the animal kingdom do predators kill thier prey just for the fun of it. Yeah, we eat cows but they're killed (somewhat) swiftly and painlessly, and we're killing them for nourishment to ensure our survival. Survival of the fitest...chain of life. Evolution. It's inhumane and although I go by a philosophy that says basically "so-what" still...it's just a senseless act of violence against a defenseless creature, something someone with a sick mind does.

I actually found that tape on gnutella ya'll...it's some really disgusting **** :-&

it's amazing how fast the tape got onto the net

If you like to torture anything (I don't care what, even an ant or something), you're just like the devil and you should sit next to him in hell. Don't frie the frieers.

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by twistedphreek
No where else in the animal kingdom do predators kill thier prey just for the fun of it.

---

That could be challenged: Cats by nature have the instinct to hunt, and because we feed our cats they do not have the need to eat the rodents and birds they catch.

Again this is an act of nature, and I had a feeling someone would argue the statement of killing prey for fun.

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by twistedphreek
I actually found that tape on gnutella ya'll...it's some really disgusting **** :-&

it's amazing how fast the tape got onto the net

---

I really wish you did not share this.... We all know Xd is going to get his copy.... Sick $(*)

Okay, I can not argue with what that laws says. I concede that point although I do not agree.

No I don't think that those kids with the cat in Cali are criminals either. Whether or not someone is sick isn't for us to pass judgement on. It's a *****ing cat, who cares whether or not some twisted person wants to torture his/her cat. Hypothetically lets say person a wants to torture his cat when he is 12 years old or whatever age. When it is all finished and now his sisters cat is dead and he cannot bear the remorse of seeing her cry. Scarred for life and it won't happen again. Jail time = unrecoverable person (not ALWAYS the case but...) Again same hypothetical but John Doe feels so bad after torturing the cat that his total "sickness" goes away, preventing the death of 12 others he might have killed in the future had he not done that to the cat.

...No where else in the animal kingdom do predators kill thier prey just for the fun of it...
Wrong. Wolverines kill there prey for the sheer enjoyment. I once heard a rancher tell of a field of dead deer with their throats ripped out, done by a wolverine. None of the deer had any part of them used for a "sensible" nature.

actually I'm not going to get a copy. I'm just debating for the fun of it and because albeit "sick and twisted" I do not feel it is a crime that should be applicable in todays society where god has so little a part. I have no interest in seeing an animal tortured. (Except for my neighbors dog...j/k)

I've got a couple of good reasons why he doesn't deserve jail time. I read the article in full and it was his kitten, not some poor little kid's. At any point in time he can decide to end the kittens life. Most of the time this is done humanely at an animal shelter, but I'm sure people shoot horses. (Which may still be humane) Now lets take animal testing into account here. (The following is a hypothetical) Dr. Jones decides to test Vioxx on his lab cat. The initial batch of Vioxx causes the cat's joints to swell tearing all of it's tendons and ligaments. The cat is now hobbled and in severe pain for the rest of it's days (Not too many). The cat now looks like the stay-puff marshmellow man (ghostbusters) and the doctor invites his fellow doctors and the hot intern to look on as the doctor pokes fun at the cat for the duration of its life (The doctor kills the cat after the joke wore off). This too is "sick". But the fact of the matter is that regardless of this mans ability to judge between "good and evil" he didn't commit any real crime. No property damage, no harm to another (human), or anything else. Calling the police to break up the barbeque would be acceptable just because others may not want to see it or smell it. But 5 years in jail for violating a social moray? [/B][/QUOTE]

it doesent matter if it is his kitten know animal deserves that so your bassically saying its ok 2 torture and burn animals if they are your pets

This is a stretch here but It's not "okay" to do it. Nor is it right. But who are you to pass judgement of john doe it he wants to kill his cat a cruel way. What about fish, do they not get the same right as cat (don't post that law again, I read the whole thing already). They get hooked in the mouth dragged ashore and suffocated and then filled with a jagged knife in some guys house. Gee, if we weren't eating the fish that sounds like torture to me.

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by xdadenx
who cares whether or not some twisted person wants to torture his/her cat.

---

xdadenx,

I think you have proved your point by standing up for others that have the same problem as yourself. You do not partake in the consideration for others, nor do you have the ability to show compasion. You know that is a sickness. For you to think that these acts are okay, and the fact that it does not affect you in the slightest way is unhuman. If you could watch these actions being perfomed without a tear in your eye, or atleast a bit of sorrow for the animal in question. I would say you are one sick M-F'er..... I really had enough of your ignorance, and I really hope you are doing this for attention so others would reply to your posts, because if this is how you feel. You seriously need some help....

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by xdadenx
This is a stretch here but It's not "okay" to do it. Nor is it right. But who are you to pass judgement of john doe it he wants to kill his cat a cruel way. What about fish, do they not get the same right as cat (don't post that law again, I read the whole thing already). They get hooked in the mouth dragged ashore and suffocated and then filled with a jagged knife in some guys house. Gee, if we weren't eating the fish that sounds like torture to me.

---

the way you were portraying it. it was if u did agree im not passing judgment if u r talking to me.
what about fish they have a brain span of 2 second`s a bit like your self thus they wouldnt feel pain

You obviously missed my whole point. What business is it of yours or mine to send someone to jail for lacking empathy? They did not harm anyone or anything that falls under the scope of humanity. And what business is it of your to pass judgement on me. So why don't you f* off if you're gonna do that.

Now this discussion has degenerated into the replies containing no more good points except insulting me. So that proves who really has a two second brain span.

-Later

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by xdadenx
First things first. I don't know about even threads and points or whatever so leave me alone about it (reply to B4D_S3CT0R). Second, s0nIc your quote at the bottom of your post is hipocritical of your post. Merciless killer huh?

I've got a couple of good reasons why he doesn't deserve jail time. I read the article in full and it was his kitten, not some poor little kid's. At any point in time he can decide to end the kittens life. Most of the time this is done humanely at an animal shelter, but I'm sure people shoot horses. (Which may still be humane) Now lets take animal testing into account here. (The following is a hypothetical) Dr. Jones decides to test Vioxx on his lab cat. The initial batch of Vioxx causes the cat's joints to swell tearing all of it's tendons and ligaments. The cat is now hobbled and in severe pain for the rest of it's days (Not too many). The cat now looks like the stay-puff marshmellow man (ghostbusters) and the doctor invites his fellow doctors and the hot intern to look on as the doctor pokes fun at the cat for the duration of its life (The doctor kills the cat after the joke wore off). This too is "sick". But the fact of the matter is that regardless of this mans ability to judge between "good and evil" he didn't commit any real crime. No property damage, no harm to another (human), or anything else. Calling the police to break up the barbeque would be acceptable just because others may not want to see it or smell it. But 5 years in jail for violating a social moray?

---

But the thing is it IS illegal. Mistreating an animal is against the law, and you can be arrested and fined. Shooting a lame horse may still be done, but in this case, is to put the animal out of it's misery. And even in the extreme circumstances that you mentioned with the animal in a testing facility, that is done in the interest of science. However, animal testing is usually done in lab rats, not cats. No one uses cats. Them poking the said cat afterward is still sick, and I'd still beat them with a Louisville Slugger. And once the experiment was over, scientist and experimenters would euthanize the animal afterward. My wife did this for years in a pych lab with rats, so I'm not coming at this blind.

You are obviously not a pet owner, or you'd understand. You can not just abuse an animal just because it is yours. Your kids are your own -- doesn't give you the right to torture or kill them. Same with any animal -- treat it as if it were your child. If they wanted it put down, they could have taken it to a vet. They were obviously torturing it for their own warped, twisted amusement, and I will take delight when they are incarcerated. Animal abuse is against the law for a reason.

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by DarkGuardian
However, animal testing is usually done in lab rats, not cats. No one uses cats.

---

DarkGuardian,

My mother once saw a kitten she had to have, and when she knocked on the door to see if the guy is giving them away. The man claimed he sold them to the labs by the batch, and needed them money, so she would have to pay him $20. for the kitten.

(there is nothing false about this statement)

I can't even go into detail on how much disgust I have for xdadenx's posts, and yet. None of you have assigned a negative point towards it. Personally until his last posts, I thought he was trying to turn this thread suicidal...

This story is so terribly sad. I have 5 new kittens of my own, and it would crush me if someone burned of mine. That is just sickening.