m$ says F-U to win9x users

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July 18th, 2002, 04:47 AM
zigar

m$ says F-U to win9x users

i guess my laptop is now a security risk...

Quote:

Thank you for your interest in Windows Update

Windows Update is the online extension of Windows that helps you get the most out of your computer.

The latest version of Windows Update is only available on computers that are running Microsoft Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

too bad...since this compaq isn't even compatible with 2k or xp...anyone think m$ is gonna chip in to buy me a new one so i can keep up with the holes in their os's???..

bastids...bastids
July 18th, 2002, 04:57 AM
allenb1963

www.bigfix.com Give it a once over. It does your updates and transmits no info concerning your computer via the internet. Hope this helps the laptop!
July 18th, 2002, 05:05 AM
Sudo

Greedy bastards...

yep, another reason I don't waste my money on M$

--Sudo
July 18th, 2002, 05:12 AM
uid(zer0)

I wonder when MS will stop thinking about money? When will they turn attention to Windows users? :bigsmile:

Take a free day and install linux on your laptop. ;)
July 18th, 2002, 05:15 AM
ammo

Well, this is not to make up excuses for microsoft, but win95 IS like 7 years old, and 98 5 years old... You can't realistically expect all software to be suported forever... (Ask anyone about supporting 5 years old Linux distros and you'll get the same anwser: upgrade...)

(http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycleconsumer.asp)

It's unfortunate but apparently inevitable...

Ammo
July 18th, 2002, 05:20 AM
ac1dsp3ctrum

Shait! Ill have to update to Windows XP 7th revision in about 3 years, Noooooo
July 18th, 2002, 05:31 AM
zigar

Quote:

and 98 5 years old... You can't realistically expect all software to be suported forever

well..yes and no..in a corporate environment it takes 5 years to take a shi-at (tks ac1d... :p )

we're just now moving to all 2k at work...and m$ says...ooops...after 2003 you can only get xp...oh and you can "down grade to 2k...but you have to pay for the xp licensing scheme..."

ah. well..i'm recoding all of our internal systems in coldfusion...which runs nicely on linux...and can be accessed by any web browser...konqueror say??

i've been a great m$ supporter...i reaaally like 2k...but they are rapidly losing me as a customer...and i know i'm not alone...
July 18th, 2002, 05:31 AM
Terr

Yeah, but knowing Microsoft 'withdrawing support' probably means actively banning any Win9x computer from download areas based on HTTP headers or something equally heavy handed. As a Win98 user... I want it supported.
July 18th, 2002, 05:35 AM
zigar

Quote:

Originally posted here by Terr
Yeah, but knowing Microsoft 'withdrawing support' probably means actively banning any Win9x computer from download areas based on HTTP headers or something equally heavy handed. As a Win98 user... I want it supported.

already happened terr...click on tools/windows update...you'll see the message from the frist post...me you and x millions are sol...
July 18th, 2002, 05:42 AM
ammo

I wonder if the windows update site can be fooled by rewriting the http headers...
Of course the windowsupdate activex probably still check os version so that would be pointless....

Ammo
July 18th, 2002, 05:48 AM
uid(zer0)

Quote:

You can't realistically expect all software to be suported forever... (Ask anyone about supporting 5 years old Linux distros and you'll get the same anwser: upgrade...)

Of course, but upgrading linux is A LOT cheaper (or even free) than Windows.
July 18th, 2002, 05:51 AM
ammo

I know... that's the "unfortunate" part...
In a perfect world, M$ whould give free upgrades to those who still use discontinued products... but really, I don't think so :(

(My point was just to say that nobody want's to support outdated technology (unless being paid big bucks for it... And then again...)

Ammo
July 18th, 2002, 05:58 AM
uid(zer0)

There is a hope all this bullshit ends because of bigger competition in the future.
July 18th, 2002, 06:38 AM
LeeryOne

If you still have win9x with IE < 6.0, you can still go to the update page (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/?IE
July 18th, 2002, 06:41 AM
cheesegoduk

It's a bit annoying because I want to carry on using windows 98 on this pc, but I want it to be as secure as it can be:-)
July 18th, 2002, 06:41 AM
ammo

Can you even install IE 6 on win95? (I thought 95 onlysupported up to IE 5.5..)

Ammo
July 18th, 2002, 06:47 AM
LeeryOne

Oops .. most of my post got lost in the send .. lets retry it....

If you still have win9x with IE < 6.0, you can still go to the update page (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/?IE)
What the message about the new windows updater means (usually - at least its been my limited experience) is that you are either running IE 5.5 or 6.0 and going to the windows updater for the first time. A first time visit with a non-2k/xp box will give you that message. Subsequent visits work like normal (as long as you open IE, got to Tools -> Windows Update).

I happen to work in a company that's certified to be a M$ solutions provider, and we received a letter from MS about 2 months ago stating that 98 and NT4 will lose support (and bug fixes) after July 31, 2003. So your 98 machine is still supported for another year. I suspect that IE 5.01, Outlook Express 5, and Office 97 (maybe even Office 2000) will lose support at the same time or shortly thereafter.

Meanwhile, I've completely made the switch to Linux (Ximian Gnome is nice, and it includes OpenOffice for Office 2k compatibility.....) and all is wonderful. That switch has added another 2-3 years of use for this old 450mhz dinosaur of mine (its only 1 of computers I run at home, and is the 2nd slowest and oldest, but still my preferred system).

Hope that helps clarify things a little bit.....
July 18th, 2002, 08:23 AM
khakisrule

The life cycle policy is old news. They put out a warning in 2000 about how they were going to discontinue support for win95, I didn't know that they had done the same for 98 or ME. But the life cycle policy has been out for a long time, and before it was actually called the life cycle policy there were other documents that warned about support being discontinued. I can't believe you didn't know about that.
July 18th, 2002, 09:18 AM
Mankan

Re: m$ says F-U to win9x users

Quote:

Originally posted here by zigar
i guess my laptop is now a security risk...

too bad...since this compaq isn't even compatible with 2k or xp...anyone think m$ is gonna chip in to buy me a new one so i can keep up with the holes in their os's???..

bastids...bastids

Then again. Why would Microsoft support such an old operating system? You don't see any security patches for 3.11 do you? It's too bad your laptop doesn't support 2k or XP though. Time for a new lappie ey? :)
July 18th, 2002, 01:38 PM
Joey_Batch_File

So what you guys are saying is I will have to upgrade my IBM PS/2 from Windows 3.1? And I Just got used to File Manager. On a serious note, 98 is 5 years old now and a change is due. However, Microsoft should do something for all the suckers they ripped off by pushing Windows ME on them. What a piece of CRP that was.