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I just saw on the news that they found Alejandro Avila and are almost certain that he was the person who raped/killed Samantha Runnion. I just figured I should tell you all this. What do you think should be done to this bastard? I hope Jo-Jo in prison packs him so hard his brains come out his ears... stupid ****.
Actually that's a little further than they're going right now......Quote:
they found Alejandro Avila and are almost certain that he was the person who raped/killed Samantha Runnion.
The rest of the story is here......Quote:
Orange County Sheriff Michael Carona said Avila was taken into custody at 9:55 a.m. PT (12:55 p.m. ET), but he emphasized that the arrest "in no way concludes this investigation." He said Avila was "just one of several we've been looking at."
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/19/gir...ted/index.html
Conf1rm3d K1ll, please don't kill me cause it's CNN....LOL!!
Deb
debwalin: On the thing on tv just now, that sheriff guy said "there's almost no doubt in my mind that this suspect is who we're looking for." I didn't get it from an article, I got it off of TV, so as far as I'm concerned it's not going a little too far.
BTW, if there seems to be hostility from me, it's just cuz this sick crap really pisses me off. I can't believe people would have it in their so-called heart to do something so mean and harsh.
Who is Samantha Runnion and Alejandro Avila?
uid: Deb posted a story link... read it.
This world has waaaaay too many sickos. If the guy is guilty, I hope they castrate him and serve it as his last meal before they kill him. Seriously though, as a child molester/murderer he will be the scum of the inmate population and will be an easy target for a shiv, which would end up saving the taxpayers a bundle. I feel no pity for those such as he.
I will await results offically announced to the media from professional people on the case not media speculation I'm to old to by into media hype for ratings. If this is in fact the person the case and what is collected will put him away. His life span will not be long but then in such high profile case he will in fact not be in the general inmate popultation andwill spend years in appeals. The person that killed this child is in fact very sick and his right to live should be revoked by this thing we call the human race. Me though I am a bit touchy over thing my eldest son a man in his own right was shot and wounded but lived my feeling for the person that almost took my sons life away should be the same result removed by death. No man or woman in this country should be assulted going into or taken away from where they live. My sons case is lost on a desk at LAPD was not high enough profile for the news just another mugging.
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Originally posted here by jehnx
debwalin: On the thing on tv just now, that sheriff guy said "there's almost no doubt in my mind that this suspect is who we're looking for." I didn't get it from an article, I got it off of TV, so as far as I'm concerned it's not going a little too far darling.
BTW, if there seems to be hostility from me, it's just cuz this sick crap really pisses me off. I can't believe people would have it in their so-called heart to do something so mean and harsh.
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With all due respect, I think we went through this a few weeks ago but there is something in this country called "Innocent until proven guilty." I understand that this sort of thing upsets you and/or pisses you off - and I don't, for one second, blame you or think I could even say anything approaching "you're wrong" (probably 'cause you're not). Whoever did this was indeed one sick and twisted individual and should be made to pay for it.
<devil's advocate>
I'm sure there are lots of parts of the case that we don't know... perhaps this guy has a solid aliby (sp?). I'm sure that the officers are probably equally infuriated over this situation and, in any case, want someone to be found guilty of it so everyone can sleep just a little bit easier... but perhaps in all the emotion they've made a poor assumption and perhaps picked up the wrong guy. In any case, we don't know that... the press certainly loves to senationalize news like this, especially given the "level of the crime," so to speak.
</devil's advocate>
But, in any case, I'm a little "taken aback" by any officer of the law that's bold enough to convict someone before they actually have their day in court, I guess. (no, no - I'm not saying he's wrong - perhaps I'm just a little biased, but the whole tendancy of certain officers to be "judge and jury" is, well... distressing)
Thanks much for the news... nice to see they think they've gotten a suspect off the streets, though.
I feel for you PM. I have a job working with kids and if any sick bastard did that to any one of them ( even the ones that live to piss me off) I think that I would personally hunt the fucl<er down. With kids being our most valuable resource we should be extra careful with them. It kinda reminds me of "minority report".
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Originally posted here by debwalin
Actually that's a little further than they're going right now......
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Orange County Sheriff Michael Carona said Avila was taken into custody at 9:55 a.m. PT (12:55 p.m. ET), but he emphasized that the arrest "in no way concludes this investigation." He said Avila was "just one of several we've been looking at."
Seems they've updated that thought a bit since you posted:
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July 19, 2002 Posted: 10:27 PM EDT (0227 GMT)
STANTON, California (CNN) -- Authorities late Friday confirmed that Alejandro Avila, 27, has been arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and killing 5-year-old Samantha Runnion, who was snatched in front of her home while she played with a friend earlier this week.
"I am 100 percent certain that Mr. Avila is the man who kidnapped and murdered Samantha Runnion," said Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona.
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I agree with draziw .... I as a LEO in Oz and I feel that the pressure the media place on their respective law enforcement agencies needs to be reviewed - taking nothing away from the evil nature of this crime.
While the public have the right to be informed in timely and accurate manner, the intrusive nature of the media can turn things into a circus and tend to force the players into issuing statements they would otherwise not. It would also divert some of the LEO's attention away from what they should be concentrating on most, the crime.
I watched some of this on Fox News and was appalled that they released the name of the little girls friend (if they have not got the right guy, the real one knows who she is now!!), and they have this guy tried, convicted and executed before his day in court. Everyone has the right of the presumption of innocence until proved otherwise.
For the sake of the parents, family and community I hope and pray they have their man and make the case stick.
What he or whoever is guilty did to that poor girl, is unspeakably horribly evil and demented. Beyond sick and perverted. He doesn't deserve to die, he deserves to suffer every damn day of his life until his death provides him escape. I hope his mind is taunted and tortured with ghosts of his crime.
Castrate him like a bull, tie wire around his balls and let them die and fall off. Cut off his fingers so he can't touch anyone. Disgusting *****.
I am not convicting him but I don't think the police would offer such opinions if they didn't have some pretty convincing evidence on their side.
Whoever did it deserves what I said and worse. I could go on and on, but it depresses me to do so. Poor girl, didn't do a damn thing to deserve such a fate.
I sincerely hope they convict the rapist/killer and torture his ass off!
From a while ago...
http://www.houndshome.com/d/20020218.html
http://www.houndshome.com/d/20020219.html
http://www.houndshome.com/d/20020220.html
http://www.houndshome.com/d/20020221.html
http://www.houndshome.com/d/20020222.html
http://www.houndshome.com/d/20020223.html
http://www.houndshome.com/d/20020223.html
Just think about it.
Terr: I don't think that was very cool of you. Just because people freak out at these "tragedies" does not mean it's wrong to do. You have to realize that sometimes things like this hit close to home, and this really does for me. It's really hurtful thinking of another kid having this crap done to them, because, well, I won't go into why but it really is hurtful. It might get old to people who don't feel the same, but IMO if you're not interested, don't open the thread.
The next thing you know, some stupid twit will be suggesting
that the crime is society's fault, that the ass hole was
abused as a child, and that he can be rehabilitated!"
A society that fails to react with righteous vengeance in
a situation like this has a death wish. The vultures are circling
around Washington, hoping to pick apart the bones of
our liberal, progressive, compassionate society.
What's needed in this case is a lynch mob.
:cool:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/17/gir...x.html?related <--- Check the description
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/20/gir...ted/index.html <--- Check the picture
Well, let's see... what else is going on in the world right now that could use a "distraction?" Anyone hear that the US has bombed Iraq again? (I know, details are sketchy - but this news has kind of replaced the international news at the top of the headlines. "Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm....")
I think the issue is twofold.
- Launching into an anger-fest over someone when they are still just a suspect.
- Describing horrible punishments that are sometimes, if you look at them seperately, even more disturbing than the crime.
It's not that anyone is doing anything wrong by being angry. The problem is that people jump to conclusions (whether or not they are correct), and then seem to say that it's okay to be inhumane and cruel, as long as the OTHER guy did it first in any context.