Another Blow for Aussie P2P

I recieved this email this morning. It was sent by my fascist ISP...How dare they........

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Dear Sir/Madam,

IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO ALL OUR SUBSCRIBERS

Please be reminded that sharing of files containing
copyrighted material is a violation of Copyright Laws of
Australia and other countries.

File sharing of copyrighted material is now being
monitored by the owners of the copyrights. IDXNET, being
your network provider, is being asked to cancel access
of all violators.

If you are using KaZaA, or any other file sharing
program, then you need to ensure that these programs are
not used to download or upload copyrighted material.
The recommended action is to uninstall these programs
immediately if you do not know how to control the
downloading and uploading of copyrighted material.

IDXNET Computing P/L will strictly comply with the
enforcement of copyright laws and any users who violate
this condition may have their accounts terminated
immediately.

We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause.
Thank You.

IDXNet Support
TEL 1300 138 788
FAX (02) 9633 9010
WEB www.idx.com.au
EMAIL [email protected]

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OUch.. time for dal.net

or another isp

It sure is! I just sent them a nasty email detailing my disgust at this decision. I'm sure it wont achieve anything......but it made me feel better!

god damn... that sux... time for leeching at your local lan event :-D

Don't let them push you around. Just keep on doing what you do and when they kick you off you can just go find another isp.

cwk9, you are right. Although I am not a user of P2P programs, millions of people are, and ISP's are starting to see the laws change just like we are. I can understand they need to cover their butts for a liability issue (which makes no sense, because it's P2P, it's not like they are serving up any files).

I can see these file sharing apps being closely monitored, but with the sheer gigantic proportions of files available on these apps it's like trying to stop a train with a toothpick. If you are into these applications, and you are afraid they might cut you off, then just jump somewhere else, because that new "erase your data" law has not been passed yet and they are just busting your chops. It's pathetic.

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Originally posted here by cwk9
Don't let them push you around. Just keep on doing what you do and when they kick you off you can just go find another isp.

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Sadly, I pay for my connection 6 months in advance. I still have 5 months left untill my account expires....and the made it very clear....NO REFUNDS! Oh well........... :(

I would be willing to bet the court system would come down on your side....the no refunds clause kicks in if YOU cancel....they would be obligated to refund fees for unused services if the cancellation is on their part.

Conf1rm3d_K1ll, I also noticed they have a bandwidth cap too, and call it "an excessive use policy" that limit downloads to 1 GB per day, and if you go over the limit 2 mos. in a row, they will cancel the account. After reading all of that, I was like "wow." It looks like they are not the more download friendly ISP. :(

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I would be willing to bet the court system would come down on your side....the no refunds clause kicks in if YOU cancel....they would be obligated to refund fees for unused services if the cancellation is on their part.

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Not quite... if it's a TOS violation, they will not. And if the contract says "no refunds" it means just that.

Man, that is pretty bad. Maybe you can sue them for some money, and make yourself feel better that way. I assume you are using broadband, because of that 1gb cap, how many broadband providers do you have access to? If they all do this, well, maybe you should get a cheap dial-up connection and use that to download files.

I still think that is a grey area and open to debate....a download cap is a MAJOR term adjustment. Based on alittlebitnumbs post, I would definitly pull out the TOS agreement and check it for loopholes.


*EDIT* So can we assume that you are now going to be banned from watching legal *streaming* video if you so choose? That sounds so restrictive it ought to be illegal. ;)

Yeah your ISP is rather odd, I think you would be able to pull out and get your money back because a download cap is rather unfair and not what you agreed when you signed up

The Internet in Australia is pretty much dead anyway... so stupid **** like this will just further compound people's disgust with the ISPs of Australia......

The problem that Australian's face, I myself have faced it, is depending on what you want, there are very limited choice in alternatives.... we've only got like, 2 providers of broadband, and they both really suck now.... with ridiculous prices and download caps....

Have not seen a letter from my ISP yet...but if i do i will be pissed off too. :mad:

I did recieve one about downloading too much on 56K(Unlimited Account)
So i emailed them abusively but Correct in everyway that their agreement would not stand up in court.
3 Days later they changed their website...HeHeHe
I never got another email from them and i D/L about 1.8 GiG a month.
I worked it out if i went under any of the Cable Agreements i would be paying upto $135 a month to get this much Data.

So i'm staying on 56K..$25 a month.
Also on contracts... i had a 12 month contract with EISA that went bankrupt...Luckily new owners took over contract.

Its because of the MPAA:

http://www.techtv.com/news/internet/...394325,00.html

They are sending 1000's of letters to all ISP's telling them to enforce copyright laws on their networks/servers.

instead of trying to piss off the isps, who are just as much victims in this as everyone else, and would, im sure, be just as happy not to have to do grunt work for the media mogels without even being reimbursed for the man hours. Especially outside the US. Maybe letters should be written expressing concern and promising support to those who dont cave in to the movie makers gestopo tactics.

Lets face it, if hollywood plans to take control of the internet to enable pay per stream, they are going to need the support of the ISPs

there must be some collective effort we could all make...any ideas?