What OS?

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August 7th, 2002, 10:09 PM
ac1dsp3ctrum

What OS?

Ok, Im getting a new system real soon (3.2Ghz, 256MB DDR RAM, 128MB Nvidia GeForce3) And I wanted to know everyones opinion on what OS I should run... Size is not a problem (80 Gig Hard Drive) I was thinking 1 version of Windows and a form of Linux... Just not sure which ones :)

Oh, And one more thing... A friend of mine had an OS that runs Directly off of a CD, no install necissary... If anyone knows what im talking about or something like it please respond with the OSs name and a link if possible
August 7th, 2002, 10:18 PM
khakisrule

You don't need windows. Wine does it all, I now have Photoshop running on my linux box, its nice, plus I have MS Office running nicely as well.

EDIT: And I am pretty sure that some sites have star office 5 available to download, so another reason to ditch windows.
August 7th, 2002, 10:22 PM
ac1dsp3ctrum

You still didnt answer my question, LOL
August 7th, 2002, 10:31 PM
Zadok0552

Well, ONE of the Linux packages can run from just a boot diskette OR CD.

And that would be: Trinux. I have a win98SE box booted with it right now. I run Trinux cause it is primarily designed for security packages like Labrea (Ya know Tarpit?) and snort, etc.

The web site is: http://trinux.sourceforge.net/

bon apetit
August 7th, 2002, 10:34 PM
avdven

For OS's, I would recommend XP or 2000 for Windows and Red Hat for Linux (that's only because it happens to be my favorite).

As for the OS on CD, there are various Linux flavors available which will run from a CD. If you're looking for a Microsoft product, WindowsPE does that for you (Windows Preinstallation Edition, which is the XP kernel, but cut down to limit the ability to use it as a full fledged OS). If you want more information about WinPE, let me know and I can hook you up with some links, though I don't think you'll get as much use out of it as you would a full OS.

AJ
August 7th, 2002, 10:39 PM
chefer

http://cd-linux.org/ - CD based linux distro information

Trinux would do it. PicoBSD would work as CD or 3.5 floppy (http://people.freebsd.org/~picobsd/)

http://devil-linux.org - linux on cd for router/ firewall/ small server.

Good luck with the new box.
August 7th, 2002, 10:41 PM
Zadok0552

To followup... since you asked for a windows flavor, as well.

Win2000 is probably for more serious users. There is a thread here regarding service pack 3.

However, I have a box with XP Pro. I did a full install - not an upgrade after using Win2000. Even though I have had to patch XP with over 24megs of "hotfixes", I find it more stable than 2000 Pro. What rankled me was that progs that ran OK on 2000 wouldn't even install on XP. Progs like some security apps that monitor connections in GUI format, and a few others. Over all I'll keep XP cause I'm impatient and it loads MUCH faster than 2000.

In reference to my previous post. After using Trinux for a few months, I'm thinking about installing Redhat as a dual boot OS and using Labrea, Snort and Firestarter. Reason - I want to play more with ipchains and firewalls in general. But, thats just me. ;)
August 7th, 2002, 10:44 PM
KissCool

There's a version of linux bootable only on one cd named DemoLinux. But as the name said it is not designed to a constant use on a static server.

the http://www.demolinux.org/ site say:

"We wanted to make it possible to everybody to look at what Linux can offer, and to make it possible for software publishers wanting to show their Linux-based software to distribute a no hassle hands-off demo CD.

But this kind of CD makes also a wonderful Linux-to-go solution: you might carry your favorite desktop configuration in your pocket, sit in front of a non-Linux box, boot from the CD and be in front of your preferred environment in minutes. "
August 7th, 2002, 11:11 PM
problemchild

As for Windows, why not XP Professional? That seems kind of a no-brainer to me.

In the Linux world, I'm a huge fan of Gentoo. The great thing about Gentoo is that *everything* is always compiled directly from source, which means that you can pass processor-specific optimizations to everything. Everything down to ls can be performance optimized for your specific machine. If you're really looking to get balls-to-the-wall performance out of your spiffy new machine, you won't do any better than Gentoo. You better know something about Linux before you try it, though, 'cuz it gets pretty deep into the guts of the system.

And its package management system, Portage, is even better than Debian's apt-get. Portage is the future of Linux package management.

Hey, you asked! :D
August 7th, 2002, 11:16 PM
jaguar291

I'm not a huge fan of Windows XP but XP and 98SE are the best versions out. If I were you I'd install both and then Redhat for your Linux OS.

Question: Are you building the box yourself?
August 8th, 2002, 02:44 AM
AngryBob

FREEBSD!!! its awesome-ports and packages are the best thing ever invented. linux tends to copy a lot of what freebsd does.
August 8th, 2002, 03:19 AM
bsd_da3m0n

what most people said, xp pro w/ debian or slackware
August 8th, 2002, 03:47 AM
Joey_Batch_File

Re: What OS?

Quote:

Originally posted here by ac1dsp3ctrum
I was thinking 1 version of Windows and a form of Linux... Just not sure which ones :)

Just my personal opinion. I like the Red Hat/Win2k combo. I really don't think you can go wrong there. Again, that is just my personal opinion. Let us know, when you decide...
August 8th, 2002, 04:34 AM
Tedob1

http://www.virtual-linux.org/nuke/index.php

Virtual Linux is basically the Mandrake Linux operating system, modified to run directly from your cd rom drive. It can be run with or without a hard drive. This is great for showing people the power and flexibility of Linux. You can put the cd in your cd rom drive and reboot....and you will soon have a powerful Linux system at your disposal...all without the hassles of loading new software or repartioning your hard drive or any of that technical stuff.
August 8th, 2002, 05:02 AM
khakisrule

Well, if you don't want to have to partition your hard drive then I reccomend peanut linux, it is small, pretty nice, lots of features and has plenty of add-ons to download. Otherwise, I like mandrake, runs nice, plus it was easy for me to setup my cable internet connection on it.
August 8th, 2002, 07:23 AM
smirc

Quote:

Ok, Im getting a new system real soon (3.2Ghz, 256MB DDR RAM, 128MB Nvidia GeForce3) And I wanted to know everyones opinion on what OS I should run... Size is not a problem (80 Gig Hard Drive) I was thinking 1 version of Windows and a form of Linux... Just not sure which ones

Showing off the new *bling bling* eh acid? ;) What you could do is install multiple OSs. For example, have Windows running beside Redhat, Slackware and FreeBSD. You've got 80GB so why not experiment a bit with your new box.

Quote:

In the Linux world, I'm a huge fan of Gentoo. The great thing about Gentoo is that *everything* is always compiled directly from source, which means that you can pass processor-specific optimizations to everything. Everything down to ls can be performance optimized for your specific machine. If you're really looking to get balls-to-the-wall performance out of your spiffy new machine, you won't do any better than Gentoo. You better know something about Linux before you try it, though, 'cuz it gets pretty deep into the guts of the system.

And its package management system, Portage, is even better than Debian's apt-get. Portage is the future of Linux package management.

Gentoo...sounds like play dough gone wrong ;). I've never used it but if its package management system is better then Debian's it must be worth a look. The idea of optimising all the binaries is also very appealing. Thanks for the heads up.
August 8th, 2002, 08:01 AM
problemchild

Quote:

Gentoo...sounds like play dough gone wrong . I've never used it but if its package management system is better then Debian's it must be worth a look. The idea of optimising all the binaries is also very appealing. Thanks for the heads up.

It's basically FreeBSD's ports system coupled with the dependency resolution of Debian's apt-get. If you type "emerge gnome" it will download and compile about 50 packages in the right order. You can "emerge rsync" to get a current package list, "emerge --update world" to update all the packages on your system, and "emerge clean world" to remove old packages without touching the updated ones. If you have a major update to glibc, a simple "emerge -e world" will rebuild the whole system around the new glibc. All binary optimized. And all bleeding edge current.

Tell me that isn't sweet. :D
August 8th, 2002, 08:28 AM
cheesegoduk

Yeah I agree with khakisrule peanut linux is a small disto that can run from a FAT32 hard drive, so you don't have to go mad trying to sort out your partitions.