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Who you are with?
My argument is - our life will definitely be better without Bill Gates, as people’s lives in the 1940’s would have been better without Hitler.
Let’s start from the beginning:
Well, Bill Gates was too stupid to finalize DOS as it should be; therefore, he spoiled it and implemented it everywhere he could. Since that time Bill Gates spoiled everything he legally or illegally acquired/touched. The man who leads the industry has no brains of his own! (Yes, he is a good mercenary entrepreneur but not a professional). When MS DOS met competition that was better than MS DOS, what did Bill Gates do? Yes, played dirty games that they did not expect. They were too decent to compete with the young evil. If a neophyte in computers and programming such as Bill Gates, who did not even finish college was able to invent spoiled DOS - any average
professional would do it much better without spoiling it. Because of Bill Gates’s incompetence in computers – not only does the industry have huge losses, but the whole country. Every year the losses are $11 billions (they are growing), because poorly designed Windows are everywhere (extra security, protection, …). The U.S. military compared Windows NT vs. Mac: Win NT with top security was hacked even by children, but for the same
period of time Mac did not even have one hack. There were $13 billions losses from only 4 viruses for Windows. Plus, Bill Gates does not pay taxes - $22 billions for two years that he still owes the IRS. And the list goes on and
on. Now, please count how many years Bill Gates is in business and multiply it on a summary of the above figures. What you will get? There are no enemies in the world that can even come close to bringing the financial
damage that Bill Gates did to the U.S. Now, please tell me, should we be proud that Bill Gates entered into the industry or consider this fact as the biggest curse to the country? Does the government know about it? If I know - they must know too. Therefore, there are two logical conclusions – either the government is too stupid, or they are under Bill Gates’ power. Thus, politics of the U.S. are defined by … (whom?). Therefore, the person
responsible for the recession and international conflicts is … (whom?). (I do not provide you links because I assume it is should be a basic knowledge).
I did not say that I have 100% proof of the Bill Gates’ guilt in what happened in the world and in the upcoming disasters (WW III); I said that there is too many evidence that this version could be true. It should be checked and something should be done about it before the time runs out. Maybe I am not completely right but if we will miss the danger – G.W. Bush can easily enter the country into WW III because the domestic corporation(s) could stay above him. (Is everything under control and there is nothing to worry about?) The majority people missed Hitler in 1939 before WW II. We can repeat the same mistake again – we would have miss Hitler II again.
You may read “How IBM helped the Nazis” to get an idea about what is going on nowadays. (What do you think – the moral of “money bags” became better now or are they foxier?)
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jun2001/ibm-j27.shtml
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Dude...can I have some of whatever it is you've been smoking??
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its damp, starten to get cool...must be shrooms!
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Sorry Allen but me thinks drg has pretty much summed up Mr. Gate$. Follow this thought I need plumbing, electrical, landscape, structural work, a addition designed all of them are licensed by my state and bonded from damages they may cause me. So we are at today some of our most important infrastuctures protected by what MSCE or a CNE? No disrespect but the mfg of copper wire is not the one to license my electrician now are they? Hell to even pull CAT5 you have to have a you quessed it low voltage license issued by the State you live in and be bonded. My drift what if MSCE was done away with it value as much as it's products are highly questionable to me, how about state tests and well bonding for all these fly by night consultants that never attended college but hold some paper issued by M$ that they payed them for. No smokin here nor drinking, just common sense, a professional should have no problem being licensed by an indepdent agency and well I strongly feel that Network certifications need to meet a National or state standard :)
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drg > May I know what is your problem with Bill Gates? I am not a With microsoft, but the only thing amaze me is that all of your 3 posts were about this person ( Bill Gates ) !
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...485#post571485
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...033#post568033
plus this one
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I run xp on this machine and I'm trying to learn linux on an old 486 I have. I'm not a fan of Microsoft, and I wish I could remember the name of the movie about Gates that came out a few years ago. It pretty much summed up how Gates and the others started.
Still, a lot of folks work for MS, and a lot of them have become millionaires thanks to MS. There's good and bad in everything. My one major resentment about Microsoft is that I didn't by stock a decade ago.
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OK...a serious reply this time.
1) Bill Gates didn't invent DOS...he bought it ( it was originally called QDOS)
2) I'm no Gates fan by any means, but I cannot accept the total validity of these ravings without PROOF....let's see the tax records and the supposed 22 billion dollar tax bill, the source of the information above concerning losses due to viruses. I don't doubt the possibilites, but if you want me to take it as fact, back it up with fact.
3) I followed the one link in the above post. What I got out of it was that because IBM sold computational equipment to Germany in the 1920's that was used by Hitler over a decade later to do a national census (presumably to figure out who the Jews were) they should be held responsible for paying reparations to the Jewish people. That makes about as much sense as Jackie Kennedy sueing Browning Arms Co. for manufacturing the gun that killed JFK.
NO...Bill Gates is no saint. But if you follow drg's reasoning then he is the dark force behind Enron, Worldcom and every other financial disaster we have had since the early 80's. Hell...he's probably the very one that called Martha Stewart and told her to dump her Inclone stock, and he may have even designed the notorious 'butterfly ballot' to get GWB elected!
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By golly, Allen, you might be on to something. With just one swipe, all the problems of this country could be solved. Gates is no saint. Neither is any major business figure in this country, and certainly no politician. The trouble with Gates is that a helluva lot of people are very, very jealous of his success. If his business practices ain't quite always kosher, neither is any other company's.
I've said this before. If Steve Jobs was more interested in business and less interested in communing with spirits and sniffing flowers or whatever, Apple could be Microsoft. So could IBM.
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Not to add fuel to drg's fire but if you are going to go after IMB for selling machines to the Germans 15+ years before Hitler was elected (bet you forgot that one drg) then you should also "expose" all of the other businesses that profited by doing business with the Nazi's... Did you know that Hitler was Time magizines Man of the Year for 1936? ANd if he had died in a car crash that same year I would be willing to bet that history would still hail him as one of the worlds greatest leders... He took a country with 87%+ unemployement and brought that figure down to less than 2% in just less than 1 year... Now I am no fan of Hitler by anymeans and I hope no one gets that impression... The point I am trying to make is that Bill Gates was in the right place at the right time to make more money than anyone in history... I know of not one single corperation US or otherwise that has a 100% spotless record... BG has put M$ in a position of dominating its market by putting out products that the general population as a whole uses... Yes he does put out a substandard product (Windows ME is a great example IMHO) but people still by his stuff... The software that runs on Windows OSes is growing day by day and it doesn't look like it is going to stop anytime soon... The billions of dollars that you have said were or are lost each year do to M$ based viri... Well I would have to see some proof on that... I will grant that viri can cause some loss of income but I am a bit skeptical about just how much... As for Bill Gates oweing 22 million to the IRS... I don't care how rich you are if you owe the IRS that much cash they will go after your butt... Just ask Leona Helmsly... She only owed 1.2 million over the course of 4 years and she got 10 in the pen... If Gaes owed 22 Mil he would be a gone puppy... Especially with all the trouble he has with the Justice Dept.... I like a good conspiracy as much as the next guy drg but I would like to see a little proof...
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Dont worry drg, nothing lasts forever... There will come a time when MS is only a faint memory and we both will live to see that day. I promise :D
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Re: Who you are with?
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Originally posted here by drg
The U.S. military compared Windows NT vs. Mac: Win NT with top security was hacked even by children, but for the same period of time Mac did not even have one hack
Well, I haven't met too many graphic designers or desktop publishers who also happen to be computer security experts: http://www.stormclad.com/mac.jpg :D
And maybe you could leave off Bill for a while and post about something else; one can only take so much paranoid, baseless raving.
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I just read his other 2 posts, and wooo hooo......
Man, this guy needs a serious reality check. But I guess it's better than another antipoints thread. At least this is amusing. :D
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Originally posted here by Chuck56
I could remember the name of the movie about Gates that came out a few years ago. It pretty much summed up how Gates and the others started.
Chuck, the movie you are referring to is titled "The Pirates of Silicon Valley". I watched it in my Netprep class a few weeks ago. Very interesting. It really taught me all I needed to know about Bill Gates. All he did was get rich off of someone elses ideas. Bastard.
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Right, Taproot. I got PM'd with the name. I saw it a long time ago after hearing a lot of stuff about it. From what I remember reading and hearing, it was pretty accurate as to what reallly happened.
You know, I wonder if deep in the caverns of Microsoft, in a room far away and off by itself, there isn't an MS team working on some kind of Microsoft Linux. It'll cost $279, and people will buy it by the millions because it has the Microsoft seal on it. Anybody wanna bet whether I'm right or wrong?
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Re: Who you are with?
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Originally posted here by drg
My argument is - our life will definitely be better without Bill Gates, as people’s lives in the 1940’s would have been better without Hitler.
What a stupid thing to say. The only excuse for such stupidity is being 12 years old. I hope you're 12 years old....
Don't get me wrong....I currently run RH7.3 (not a fresh install...I've been upgrading since 7.0) and enjoy using Linux....BUT....it can be a real bitch, just like Windows...
drg , let me guess. The first time you ever booted and connected to the 'net you were running slackware? What a load of bullshit.....I ****ing hate these "windows sux" threads.
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Chuck56, the movie was 'Pirates of Silicon Valley'. Damn good movie too...
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Lets be honest here.Although he does kinda fit the physical profile of a serial killer(Look at Jeffery Dahmer),he's just not the warlord type.Look at this.
http://home.epix.net/~tjwagner/gates.html
If anything Bill Gates is on the wrong side of a war.It seems M$ can't get anything on the market without it getting hacked and thrown all over the net for free.Not that I have any problems with that,but until I see tanks and fighter jets cruising around with M$ logo and using HUD's that are windows based I don't buy it.Even if that did happen I wouldn't be too worried.Do you really think a missile run with windows could make it to it's target without crashing? :D
