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i am a newbie.i have keen intrest to learn hacking.i use windows but i know that its impossible to learn hacking using windows.which is the best os to learn hacking and networking.is it linux or unix.if linus which linus is good suse or redhat or anyother one.plzzz help me.
What do you mean by learning "hacking"? What is your purpose?
drnet, sorry Bud. You're going to have to be a bit more clear about what it is that you want to do. Being as though this is an "Anti"- hacking site, hacking (and I use the term lightly) is frowned upon. Try responding to clarify what it is you're looking to do so that we know if you will be helped here. This is definitely not a good first post Doc - at least, with the way it's worded and all.
drnet, t2k2 is right, you need to be MUCH more specific as to what exactly you want to do....but Red Hat, Mandrake are 2 very flexible all purpose operating systems with great documentation that is geared toward begining linux users.....
t2k2 is right. Perhaps you should rephrase your question and state your intentions for the first half of the question. If not, than I suggest you delete the post.
Take care
::Chelle::
Well for my part, i don't think that any operating system is best for learning hacking.
Hacking is about computer knowledge. All *Nix give much more control and you'll more from them but you have to already posses some knowledge to jump into the *Nix world.
Well that's my 0.02!
RH Linux... is a very good option to start with... but be sure that "hacking" is illegal... I am also a newbie to AO, but I have learnt from the previous posts here, that AO citizens are against mallicious actions....
I believe that hacking is really a nothing more than wanting to learn to some kewl stuff, and generally has something to do with computers, but doesn't have to be. I believe that hacking can involve ANYTHING.
I know what its like starting out....I started out on the wrong foot, also (yes I used to be a script kiddy, I admit it), but I soon learned that there is much more to hacking than running a few scripts to do something for you. Its about doing it yourself and learning from the experience.
For all of you that are anxious to learn, I highly recommend joining CyberArmy. This is a great environment for newbs and there many there who are willing to mentor you. If you're interested in Perl, go here after you sign up with CyberArmy....
Maybe some of you dont know this....but not everyone in the World knows English as a first language. Give the guy some slack. And how are you supposed to be an "anti-hacker" if you dont know what they know?Quote:
which is the best os to learn hacking and networking
Rant done.
CyberArmy people mentor you? Damn, and I thought that place was flame heaven....
Who are you talking to Common....
Well whatever working definition of hacking you're going on, its definitely a good idea to learn linux. As for what distribution to use, since you are an extremely new user to *nix, i would suggest the latest distribution of Mandrake. It is by far the easiest to install. then read as much as you can about linux, upgrade bits and peices of it here and there, experiment, learn as much as you can about it, you'll find hacking comes quite naturally.
I haven't seen a single flame since I've been there and I've been there for quite some time, but left for a while. Then recently I went back. CA is much more focused and organized than it used to be. I've found several mentors at CA since I recently rejoined.....Quote:
Originally posted here by Common_Exploit
CyberArmy people mentor you? Damn, and I thought that place was flame heaven....
yeah, i agree with common_exploit... cyber army.... is indeed a flame heaven..
I also tried to get some info from the guys over there, but instead I recieved numerous flame messages / posts...
What does his handle of the English language have to do with anything? He seems to be flunt in it. We know not all people intrested in hacking are bad, infact we never stated such a remark. We just asked that he clarified him-self a bit more about his question and intentions. What's wrong with that? Nothing at all.
We've all been vague at one point or another. With vaguness comes uncertainty, and with that comes questions.
Take care
::Chelle::
Well without being derogatory in any way it is obvious that you dont currently have much IT knowledge, if you had you would be able to conduct the search for what you seek and phrase the question in a more comprehendable manner.
Hacking is all about knowledge enhancement, you should want to learn everything.
General IT
Networking
Hardware
DOS,Win 3.x,Win 95,98,ME,XP,NT 3.x,NT4,2000,*nix,Novell etc etc
Assembler
basic
c
c+,c++, c#
PHP,CGI,Perl,Java,ADO,SOAP,XML,HTML,Acxtive x, etc etc
binary,Octal,Sexagesimal,Decimal,Hexadecimal etc etc
When you have a grasp on the basics of most or all of these you can start to explore the inner sanctums of all these and there security sides which would lead you to what you are now thinking is hacking but will probably turn out to be something else. if you dont have the desire to explore and research these and learn them then you will never be a hacker ! whatever you take hacker to mean ?
just learn,learn and keep learning.
As for it being impossible to hack from windows then that depends on what you want to do.
you can use windows for various things of a security nature, but to be honest it sounds like you want to be a script kiddie which the world does not need any more of believe me.
try and make a difference, learn and learn and join the white hat side and make security your life not just a party piece.
Enjoy
To get started, I would recommend to you either the latest edition of Linux Mandrake or the latest edition of Linux RedHat. They are both are good to newbies and "oldies" alike. I'm more into working with Unix (Unix Admin) and I find that Linux/Unix are both needed to learn anything advanced, computer wise.
For the CyberArmy comment, I'd like to say that if there is a mentorship type attitude their, I would re-join from when I joined a long time ago. I kind of feel CommonExploit's post because I have been flamed their as well. I hope that it changed, like you said cF-nM, that way I can have sort of a mentorship. I'd love to have a mentor and everything, it would be cool. However, and this is to people reading this, Don't be expected to be spoon fed information, because you won't be. Thank you for reading this all!
Who told you that lie?! You can do lots with Windows; whenever you hear of an exploit or bug or anything, which OS is it usually out for? - WindowsOS. So Windows, alas, does have its advantages (hah!...). BUT only if your fast enough to start using these 'exploits' to your advantage. I hope to god your not here for step-by-step instructions into hacking your girlfriend's computer or anything, but this is a great place to learn about computing (hacking) in general.Quote:
By: DrNet
i am a newbie.i have keen intrest to learn hacking.i use windows but i know that its impossible to learn hacking using windows.which is the best os to learn hacking and networking.is it linux or unix.if linus which linus is good suse or redhat or anyother one.plzzz help me.
Try checking AntiOnline's Newbie Section, which houses the "Tutorials" and "Newbie Questions" forums, which I think you can benefit from amazingly (from how it looks you'll need it). And for further learning, you can always backtrack to these sites for, maybe, a more indepth aproach to things:
[list=1][*]TechTV[*]BlackCode[*]HackerThreads[*]GeekGirls - Don't be fooled by the name ;)[*]Infosyssec[*]Blacksun[/list=1]
I'd also recommend trying to learn a programing language or two. C, C++, and Java are personal favorites, but you can pretty much start off with anything you want, considering you stick with that language for a long, long, long time, and not deter into trying to learn other languages in the middle of the one your already learning (syntax will be different and you'll confuse yourelf so much you won't know your keyboard from your own *******...trust me).
You can also consider installing a Linux Distribution.
www.linuxiso.org / www.linux.com Are good places to sift through tons of disto's and choose one you think will suit you. -Caution-, don't install Linux on your main computer. Find some old PC, or buy something inexpensive, and run it then...Linux, I'll admit, takes some time getting used to. So ya...just keep yourself busy. :)
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You call that basics? ...freak ;).]Quote:
By: geepod
General IT
Networking
Hardware
DOS,Win 3.x,Win 95,98,ME,XP,NT 3.x,NT4,2000,*nix,Novell etc etc
Assembler
basic
c
c+,c++, c#
PHP,CGI,Perl,Java,ADO,SOAP,XML,HTML,Acxtive x, etc etc
binary,Octal,Sexagesimal,Decimal,Hexadecimal etc etc
It my understanding that Linux is the best Os for hacking. You might want to try Red hat 7.3.
As for networking Linux is very flexable as well. To learn more about Linux try the www.linux.org or go and buy a book on it. You'll be surprised what you can learn from those books.
if you know windows start learning on windows. why most of the real skiddies like linux is it comes packaged with many helpful tools, they're not a part of the linux OS but they are packaged with it and most of the exploit code on the net is written for linux. allot of the tools are also available for windows although not found on the install disk and allot of the code can be compiled on a windows box using cygwin and GCC or even ported to windows if you learn c. perl scripts can run using active perl on a windows box.
its going to take a long time to learn anything and your not going to find anyone willing to help you. if you switch OSs your going to have to take the time to learn the new system, you might find yourself getting pretty discouraged. Learn the basics first: networking, some programming and a lot of security. By the time you have some understanding of all this you'll be ready to also try another OS and you'll also know enough not to do something thats gonna get your ass thrown in jail. If you don't know what you are doing you'll never know how easy it is to get caught until the man comes knocking at you door or you ISP closes you account (if your lucky).
If you are tenacious and have the ability to pick things up quickly by yourself, by all means install linux, but if you think you're just going to install linux and atomatically become "el hacker"....ROFLMAO
I don't quite see what's wrong with him being interested in hacking.I'd like one person in here to tell me that they have any kind of useful knowledge about security,yet know absolutely nothing about hacking.It's not possible.Hacking and security are hand in hand.A mechanic doesn't just put a car together does he?You have to know both sides of the coin.As a matter of fact,security is pretty much useless if you don't know how it's attacked.I think some of you just throw around negs without thinking first(ie. you wait around for some newbie to come in and make a comment that you know every other uptight person is going to jump all over.)It's really kinda counter productive if you ask me.How many knowledgeable people have been immediately shunned by the AO community just for making a comment they didn't know was wrong.I think some of you need to give newbies a chance before jumping all over them and getting them banned with APs.
If by hacking we mean in general just seaking computer knowledge then the answer is obvious: the is no best operating system to learn. While some are better than others, what OS a person uses is a matter of preference.
Learn how the computer works, not how to work the computer.
Learn how things are done, and why: by that you will become a much better computer user in return.