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Greeting all. B4 I write my post, Thank to all of u for time and advise.
I found this site bout sub 7. here it is http://www.tlsecurity.net/backdoor/subseven21.htm so isn;t a good idea to download and play with it. I'm quite curios bout sub 7 and may be playing with it can give me more information bout it. But I'm afraid it may ruin my system and as far as I concern sub 7 is the sacriest trojan i ever had. am I right.
So any advice would be appreciate.
Dude heres how a trojan works you send server.exe (the trojan) to the vitcim they run it, that opens up a port for you to hack them with. So if you want your computer one click away from being hacked go ahead run the trojan ;). I have 2 computers so i test viruses/trojans on my other one and I hack it from this one just to check it out if you dont have to computers maybe look for a sub 7 cleaner infect yourself play around then clean it
I looked at the website you posted with it: http://www.tlsecurity.net/backdoor/subseven21.htm and it tells you how to remove it
First off, be sure you are looking at the correct version for information on removal. 2.1 and 2.2 are very different in their infection methods, and 2.2 is a lot harder to remove from your system if your not carefull. I dont think it's a good idea for anyone to play with these tools as no one can seem to agree weather the client is infected itself for Mobman or whoever to connect to you just for using sub7. As far as hacking goes, you'll find none of that with sub7, it's not a hacking tool, just a Remote Administrative Tool, with some added features for password recovery and so forth. If you want to start 'hacking' I suggest reading the tuts on this site, and learning at least one programming language. Playing with these programs is illegal everywhere and not hacking in the slightest. 'Hacking' is using technology in ways that were not thought to be possable before, not using little tools made by some one else to gain access to a computer.
yea i also agree with cross... its not hacking at all
hmm...very interesting. I am glad you are curiouse about this tool. most shy away from learning about it. i would suggest getting another box to use it on. I wouldnt run either the server or the client on m machine if i were you because the client is rumored to have a logic bomb or some sort of backdoor built into it.
When I was first learning about how the internet worked, sub 7 was Very interesting to me, I learned the basics of TCP/IP, and that basically anything can be done with a small script.
I would suggest learning about this program, if your new to security.
Thank q all for ur advise. I had downloaded sub 7 but after read readme.txt I found that to install sub7.exe I need a little bit modification with my system were I not really understand likeQuote:
You must put all of the subseven log files in your cgi-bin. If you don’t
have a cgi bin, but you know your server supports cgi access, then you
most likely can put the files in any folder. However to keep your site
clean, and organized you should make a cgi-bin and put all of your cgi
programs in it.
And one more I need to know some script, or I think it better for me to learn some of language. Infact let say I want to hack someone comp I need to send server.exe, but I don't think ppl nowaday stupid enough to open the file. Well I'm curios bout sub 7 but I'll learn some language ist b4 I try this tools. Thank q anywayQuote:
CHMOD OF FILES
CGI BIN folder is found in *NIX. If you are running Windows then get Sub7 for win32. I never knew they had sub 7 for *NIX. Not it's not hacking, but it's a good thing to have 2 systems so u can practice and understand. That way you learn to protect your system a little better, from script kiddies and such. Gotta start somewhere rite?
CGI BIN folder is found in *NIX. If you are running Windows then get Sub7 for win32. I never knew they had sub 7 for *NIX. Not it's not hacking, but it's a good thing to have 2 systems so u can practice and understand. That way you learn to protect your system a little better, from script kiddies and such. Gotta start somewhere rite?
totally agree with the rest.. a couple years ago i downloaded sub7 and the first thing i did was run the trojan on myself (DC from network of course) and leanred how to remove it. nice tool to learn basics about trojans and backdoors and whatnot..(at least i think so)
totally agree with the rest.. a couple years ago i downloaded sub7 and the first thing i did was run the trojan on myself (DC from network of course) and leanred how to remove it. nice tool to learn basics about trojans and backdoors and whatnot..(at least i think so)
Actually I was trying to have fun with sub7 myself and I got infected with it because I turned off the norton antivirus. It seems that even though I didn't run the server.exe but only Subseven.exe, my computer got infected. Is this the as expected?
And even after I ran the norton antivirus to clean it later , my computer shows some error message when I turn my computer off. How can I fix this problem?
Actually I was trying to have fun with sub7 myself and I got infected with it because I turned off the norton antivirus. It seems that even though I didn't run the server.exe but only Subseven.exe, my computer got infected. Is this the as expected?
And even after I ran the norton antivirus to clean it later , my computer shows some error message when I turn my computer off. How can I fix this problem?
I would never consider a person who uses sub 7 a true hacker. However I can't discourage someone for being curious and playing with it in a "test" environment. I've tested out rootkits in a test environment before and you can't beat the hands on learning. Just keep in mind that using a Remote Access Tools doesn't make you a true hacker or even a cracker for that point.
I would never consider a person who uses sub 7 a true hacker. However I can't discourage someone for being curious and playing with it in a "test" environment. I've tested out rootkits in a test environment before and you can't beat the hands on learning. Just keep in mind that using a Remote Access Tools doesn't make you a true hacker or even a cracker for that point.
Using it as a remote administrator tool isn't too harmful if you absolutely know what you're doing. I know quiet a few network administrators who use it in their private LANs, since no one from outside the intranet can access the computers. In a nutshell, it's quite a neet little tool if you think about it. However, it get's it's bad reputation because if it's malaciuos use and abuse. All I can say is, it can prove to be quite usefull, IF it is maturely and responsibly.Quote:
using a Remote Access Tools doesn't make you a true hacker or even a cracker for that point.
Using it as a remote administrator tool isn't too harmful if you absolutely know what you're doing. I know quiet a few network administrators who use it in their private LANs, since no one from outside the intranet can access the computers. In a nutshell, it's quite a neet little tool if you think about it. However, it get's it's bad reputation because if it's malaciuos use and abuse. All I can say is, it can prove to be quite usefull, IF it is maturely and responsibly.Quote:
using a Remote Access Tools doesn't make you a true hacker or even a cracker for that point.
I'm sorry, but Sub7 is like pokemon. You know you liked it at one time, yet you deny it. That applies to me. I was creating servers for the heck of it on a computer that didnt ever have Internet. Yet, when I installed Norton 2003 Professional on it, it detected sub7 binding to explorer.exe! (must be that "new" startup method) If it is true, with the logic bomb, im deleting it right now...
I'm sorry, but Sub7 is like pokemon. You know you liked it at one time, yet you deny it. That applies to me. I was creating servers for the heck of it on a computer that didnt ever have Internet. Yet, when I installed Norton 2003 Professional on it, it detected sub7 binding to explorer.exe! (must be that "new" startup method) If it is true, with the logic bomb, im deleting it right now...
Uh, where do I start? I have always hated both sub7 and pokemon. I understand that sub7 is, if used legitimately, a handy remote administration tool. It is also, if used in a controlled and legal environment, a fun toy to use on friends. But, because of its attempts to have an ultra-stealth server, I can't imagine what would happen if Symantec or Mcafee stopped detecting this and other RATs as viruses. There are plenty of legitimate tools on the market, such as PCAnywhere, Remote Administrator, and many others. And I am NOT EVER going to disable my NAV to remotely administer a computer.
Uh, where do I start? I have always hated both sub7 and pokemon. I understand that sub7 is, if used legitimately, a handy remote administration tool. It is also, if used in a controlled and legal environment, a fun toy to use on friends. But, because of its attempts to have an ultra-stealth server, I can't imagine what would happen if Symantec or Mcafee stopped detecting this and other RATs as viruses. There are plenty of legitimate tools on the market, such as PCAnywhere, Remote Administrator, and many others. And I am NOT EVER going to disable my NAV to remotely administer a computer.
Sub7 has been around a few years and in short was and will always be a backdoor program it entices newbies and you may have a way to go if you do not understand cgi or Nix. Want to play then look at the binary's of Sub7 or at least look for them. To truly understand things as it appears you wish to first task is that things are not always point and click. Another point to ponder is just because you just learned of something means a discovery. Security is a tough area and history out here plays a big role. Also many ISP now monitor for internal scans of their networks as well as external, and you have a rough road because even bouncing off another IP will not work for most firewalls now days. Look at explore the old tools and ways and fully expect if you use them now eyes are watching your moves, after all it is not 1996 WEB madness now :)
Peace
Sub7 has been around a few years and in short was and will always be a backdoor program it entices newbies and you may have a way to go if you do not understand cgi or Nix. Want to play then look at the binary's of Sub7 or at least look for them. To truly understand things as it appears you wish to first task is that things are not always point and click. Another point to ponder is just because you just learned of something means a discovery. Security is a tough area and history out here plays a big role. Also many ISP now monitor for internal scans of their networks as well as external, and you have a rough road because even bouncing off another IP will not work for most firewalls now days. Look at explore the old tools and ways and fully expect if you use them now eyes are watching your moves, after all it is not 1996 WEB madness now :)
Peace