Computer Entomology

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October 30th, 2002, 11:32 PM
gghornet

Computer Entomology

I'd like to write a pretty in depth tutorial on how various viruses,worms and trojans work.Besides just reading about them though,I'd like to load them on my hack box and study them for myself.In order to do this,I'm going to need a pretty big collection of bugs(new and old).Does anyone know where I could find something like this?I know a lot of skiddy sites have a variety of trojans,but I haven't found any with virii and worms.Also if anyone else in here has a collection like this,I'd appreciate it if you could send some my way.

Another thing.How would I go about picking these little nastys apart to see the inner workings of them.I'd like to reduce the risk of infecting my comp until I'm ready to,so I don't end up reformatting my hard drive 5 times a day,or screwing something up beyond repair.

One last thing.Is their any particularly rare bugs out there that I should keep an eye out for?
October 30th, 2002, 11:32 PM
gghornet

Computer Entomology

I'd like to write a pretty in depth tutorial on how various viruses,worms and trojans work.Besides just reading about them though,I'd like to load them on my hack box and study them for myself.In order to do this,I'm going to need a pretty big collection of bugs(new and old).Does anyone know where I could find something like this?I know a lot of skiddy sites have a variety of trojans,but I haven't found any with virii and worms.Also if anyone else in here has a collection like this,I'd appreciate it if you could send some my way.

Another thing.How would I go about picking these little nastys apart to see the inner workings of them.I'd like to reduce the risk of infecting my comp until I'm ready to,so I don't end up reformatting my hard drive 5 times a day,or screwing something up beyond repair.

One last thing.Is their any particularly rare bugs out there that I should keep an eye out for?
October 31st, 2002, 04:00 AM
gore

i have a pretty big collection from when i used to play with em, if im not mistaken you can use a hex editor too pull em apart...or maybe if you use windows open wordpad and drag and drop the virii inside it (unzipped).
http://www2.coderz.net/kalamar/

http://www.geocities.com/algol_p/

http://neworder.box.sk/codebox.links.php?&key=virii
^has code samples.

http://neworder.box.sk/codebox.links.php?&key=virii

http://www.lameindustries.org/tutori...er/index.shtml

http://www.4mps.org/modules/virii/

http://www.orthus.com/ttviri.html

http://membres.lycos.fr/asle/virii.2.html

http://pub76.ezboard.com/fcyberdudefrm60

http://www.rrlf.de/virii.html

that should get you going....just hope your honestly just trying to learn.
October 31st, 2002, 04:00 AM
gore

i have a pretty big collection from when i used to play with em, if im not mistaken you can use a hex editor too pull em apart...or maybe if you use windows open wordpad and drag and drop the virii inside it (unzipped).
http://www2.coderz.net/kalamar/

http://www.geocities.com/algol_p/

http://neworder.box.sk/codebox.links.php?&key=virii
^has code samples.

http://neworder.box.sk/codebox.links.php?&key=virii

http://www.lameindustries.org/tutori...er/index.shtml

http://www.4mps.org/modules/virii/

http://www.orthus.com/ttviri.html

http://membres.lycos.fr/asle/virii.2.html

http://pub76.ezboard.com/fcyberdudefrm60

http://www.rrlf.de/virii.html

that should get you going....just hope your honestly just trying to learn.
October 31st, 2002, 05:20 AM
Jabberwocky

i don't know how useful a hex editor will be at figuring out the source code for anything unless you want to sit around with a calculator trying to decypher the machine code for it. you better have a deep understanding of assember too.

you can try a decompiler, you can find some at www.download.com. it turns your binary file back into the source code. i don't know how accurate they are though, i guess it's worth investigating.
October 31st, 2002, 05:20 AM
Jabberwocky

i don't know how useful a hex editor will be at figuring out the source code for anything unless you want to sit around with a calculator trying to decypher the machine code for it. you better have a deep understanding of assember too.

you can try a decompiler, you can find some at www.download.com. it turns your binary file back into the source code. i don't know how accurate they are though, i guess it's worth investigating.
October 31st, 2002, 06:39 AM
gore

lol, i just realized i said a hex editor...lol sorry guys, but anyway the other is right downloads.com should have somethin that would help you out.
October 31st, 2002, 06:39 AM
gore

lol, i just realized i said a hex editor...lol sorry guys, but anyway the other is right downloads.com should have somethin that would help you out.
October 31st, 2002, 07:07 AM
powertoad5000

Re: Computer Entomology

I'm sure you have plenty to play with already, but there are a heap of viruses right here in the virii section of Anticode. All the ones I saw were written in assembler and were not executables - just code. This should make it easier for you to pick them apart and see how they work.

Hope this helps you out and good luck with your tutorial :)

-toad
October 31st, 2002, 07:07 AM
powertoad5000

Re: Computer Entomology

I'm sure you have plenty to play with already, but there are a heap of viruses right here in the virii section of Anticode. All the ones I saw were written in assembler and were not executables - just code. This should make it easier for you to pick them apart and see how they work.

Hope this helps you out and good luck with your tutorial :)

-toad
October 31st, 2002, 10:39 AM
nabylbt

Actually writting them in assembly a makes the virus "more " efficient somehow since the code is better written... but it is hardware specific. It also makes it smaller and harder to detect if you know assembly well.
October 31st, 2002, 10:39 AM
nabylbt

Actually writting them in assembly a makes the virus "more " efficient somehow since the code is better written... but it is hardware specific. It also makes it smaller and harder to detect if you know assembly well.
October 31st, 2002, 10:49 AM
prodikal

gghornet go to www.networkpunk.com

scroll down the page a little and you will see the virii section they have alot of source and i think some executables
October 31st, 2002, 10:49 AM
prodikal

gghornet go to www.networkpunk.com

scroll down the page a little and you will see the virii section they have alot of source and i think some executables
October 31st, 2002, 07:09 PM
gghornet

Thanx everyone.All this stuff should be very helpful.I can't really put a release date on my tutorial yet,but as soon as I can I'll put it in the "What tutorial are you working on" forum...oh and gore I can assure you their's no big skiddy conspiracy in this.I'm on the verge of getting two more certs(bringing the total to 3,and I'd like my career to be outside of prison.(Although I'm sure computer certs more than qualify you to fold prison jumpsuits for a pack of cigarettes a day.)
October 31st, 2002, 07:09 PM
gghornet

Thanx everyone.All this stuff should be very helpful.I can't really put a release date on my tutorial yet,but as soon as I can I'll put it in the "What tutorial are you working on" forum...oh and gore I can assure you their's no big skiddy conspiracy in this.I'm on the verge of getting two more certs(bringing the total to 3,and I'd like my career to be outside of prison.(Although I'm sure computer certs more than qualify you to fold prison jumpsuits for a pack of cigarettes a day.)