I believe someone has used me for "target practice". If I could prove it, what are my legal options? Could I press charges? How legal/illegal is "target practice"?
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I believe someone has used me for "target practice". If I could prove it, what are my legal options? Could I press charges? How legal/illegal is "target practice"?
what kind of target practice? More detail needed.....
- Noia
I suspect A trojan Horse attack....Jenna will fill you inQuote:
I think this person used a version of sub7 to semi control some puter progz. I can't find anything really wrong, except my networked bot is acing up. it's password controlled. not only that, but 'someone' changed my AOL pw and my log on to windows PW
If you do not want to disclose the exact nature of the "target practice", you would atleast have to give a hint , or if you wish also not to do that, which is understandable because this medium is very vulnerable and open for everyone, you might want to approach a lawyer and decide.
If there is even the slightest doubt that, it should remain confidential and not be disclosed, just dont .
Edit : Jenalynn, you beat me into it. We were just typing at the same time.
But as it has turned out, it's a very minor defect.
hmmm interesting..... would this be firearms target practice? I waould say most definately on that, but your computer? I think that would be a different story IMHO. It's up to you to protect your computer from attscks. If at all I say do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Set up a firewall and config it then see if you can catch them with the logs or maybe sniffer logs. I'm not well versed in all of this so I wouldn't know.
i really need help here......its getting bad. i cant even scan for viruses!
simple, back your important stuff up, and reinstall. problem solved. that attacker wont ever be likely to pick that computer again, and this time get a decent firewall like Tiny Personal or something, have that running at all times, and some decent AV software, like Kaspersky. But if you would run Linux of some sort you wouldnt have to worry about all those lame trojans, viruses, etc.... they are virtually non-existant in the *nix world !
I know. Windows is worthless! I'm working on getting linux. I need to trash my box....I think I'm gonna trade this in for a new one.....
on the subject of firewalls....get outpost instead....free and better in test than Tiny and ZA....or most for that matter......I'll link you
http://www.agnitum.com/
- Noia
If your local virus scan won't work... try a free online one here.Quote:
i really need help here......its getting bad. i cant even scan for viruses!
If you think that you have ports open, and you want to see what ports they are and what those ports are used for... try grc.com's shields up test .
Foundstone has a cool program called fport, and that will tell you what programs and what ports they are listening on. Active ports is also a good one and will provide you with real time activity.
If you do a google search, most of the time you can tell what is trying to access the internet. Programs such as subseven can be customized to the attackers needs... so your tests could be inconclusive.
There are others, like symantecs vulnerablility test.
If you want to give out your ip, and have some of us test it... we can do that too. You're best bet would be to ask people in IRC if you are on dial up, cause your IP changes all the time.
To keep your IP the same, you can register and install a program like dyndns.org and have it update your IP with a DNS server. That name you can choose, and no matter what your IP changes to, people will be able to find your PC.
I think your best bet would be to try the virus scan. If you come up with something, backup your data and then format and reinstall.
If you were to install a free firewall, like zonealarm, you can see if something is trying to access the internet or what is listening, and deny access.
As to legal matters..
In most cases... there isn't much you can do. You are not a big swinging company with good lawyers, and in the scheme of things, you are a small fish in this "game". You can report them to your ISP, but most of the time, they won't do anything for you.Quote:
IMHO. It's up to you to protect your computer from attscks
Keep us posted on what is going on. Maybe we can answer some more ?s for you.
1. If you just want to clean your computer, try to run your computer in safe mode and try checking various startup methods for trojans- look in the registry run, win.ini, etc. usually running a virus scanner in safe mode will work, then rebooting into safe mode and rescanning.
2. If you want to catch them and file charges, get a firewall up, wait until you log their ip. save a screen shot and the log for the firewall. might also want to save a screenshot of netstat -a or netstat -an if you are sure their connected, youll have their ip address in that.
3. use www.samspade.org to find out who owns the ip block that the attack came from. if you dowlnload the same spade tool, just put the ip address into the box and hit the "ipblock" button and it will tell you who owns it. then you'll have to contact the abuse department or technical contact, telling them what evidence you have of their clients entry into your system. make sure you keep track of the time of each connection.
4. ive never had to do any of this before, but that should get you good enough evidence or at least a jumping board for what you want to do. i hope some of that helps...