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linux experts,come here
hi guys
how r u all doing?
I wanna install linux redhat beside my win98se
Iheard that linux is gonna reformat my whole harddisk
and Iam gonna loose everything I have!!
so is this true?
I do want install linux but I want it beside my windows without any loss of my data
what's ur advice??
I have a 40 gigs HD
four partitions
so what do u think?
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Are any of your partitions free space?? If they are, just slap Redhat into one of the free partitions, use the boot loader, probably Lilo, and you'll be good to go.
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If one of your partition's have free space, during the RedHat installation process, it will ask you if you want to partition your hard drive, mainly so you can dual-boot your machine. By doing that, at startup your computer will ask you which OS you would like to go into and (in your case) Win98se or RedHat (whichever version, probably 8.0). Hope I helped, and if you need more help, feel free to PM me.
EDIT: So you know, I'm far from a Linux Expert ;)
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The safest bet is to get something like Partition Magic to safely resize your current partiation, assuming you currently have one large partition. If you do, just resize it with PMagic so that you have some space left over. This will be considered unallocated space. Make it a few gigs depending on how much you have to work with. Then, you can boot with your Linux CD in the drive and choose to install in free space - the unallocated space you just created. It will format it for you and create a swap space as well. I did this with my XP Home machine just last night. However, I suspect that my Linux partition is too small - only 4 Gigs. I wonder what the best way to "extend it would be...probably with Partition Magic again! This prog is great! Ok, ok, calming down now. Oh, by the way, I setup the dual boot with RedHat 8.0. It's running great. Hope that helps (other than my personal excitement, of course).
t2k2
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thank u guys
one more thing
now my hard disk is 4 partitions
c-d-e-f
c or windows
and d is 4.87 gigs
can I use my d for installing linux on it!!
or I have to modify something
by the way my linux is hancom
any ideas??
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Sure can, that's enough space.
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Back When I tried doing this, i had redhat 6.x and it didnt like partitioning good, but mandrake 7.x did so i used that, but iv heard newer versions of redhat are much better, as the others said, if you have partitions on your computer already that you dont have anything on, just use those, otherwise yes partition magic is really awesome and will do it for you, if you bought the redhat it prolly came with manuals, (thats why i buy Linux) and it prolly came with more than one book or a huge one, and in there it should have a section on installing it next to another OS, just grab the book and open it up to this section and follow along as your doing it for the most painless install, (hey if your a real adventurer select a language you dont speak for the install lol..kidding dont do that) but do follow along in the manual, while your installing make sure you remember which partition it was that you have free space you ARE NOT using, and tell Linux to set itself up in there, itll ask you about setting a "/" partition which is root, a home partition and a swap space, for the swap partition, most people say however much ram you have times 1.5 or something, iv found it easier to just set the swap partition to however much ram you have and add 12 MBs, so if you have 256 megs of ram, set the swap as 268 MBs and you should be fine, also be sure to have a boot loader so when you reboot it asks you if you wanna run Linux or windows for this session, (the machine also may reboot a few tmes durring insall, but when you finish it up make sure you have a boot loader, lilo or grub work well) and ALWAYS back up your important things you dont wanna loose just in case (iv had an install go bad on me before and ended up having to reformat and reinstall every thing) so back up, make sure your backed up, and it helps to know what hardware you have, like how much ram you have, your HD size, what partitions are what (just write this stuff down) and your sound card, your monitor, video card, and what modem you have and if your on a LAN (for example a home network) and then you have a lil sheet of paper next to you so when it asks you what type of stuff you have (it will also try and figure it out, but having the lil paper handy will be good incase it cant guess all your hardware, also it will most likely "probe" for hardware, this stage can freeze sometimes, so while it's probing leave the machine alone, but if it doesnt seem to move for more than like 12 minutes or so reboot and try again, and also having the booklet to your computer and your monitor can help in case you need to adjust the frequency or something in your monitor settings.) after all this it will finish the install and then ask you to reboot, when you reboot, be sure YOU TAKE OUT THE CD AND OR FLOPPY you prolly dont wanna do this all over again lol. after all this though and you reboot, you should see lilo or grub, asking you which OS to boot, try booting into Windows by selecting it and make sure you can still boot into it, and if you wanna you can boot into red hat first, log in as root and get ready for configuration time lol,Linux is a TRUE multi task multi user system so pressing cancel wont work, after you log in, youll see your system with REd hat, if you installed X youll prolly have a nice graphical log in and some nice backgrounds and stuff, if you dont have X started at start up, at the prompt type "startx" if you wanna see the X window system, otherwise whip out that book and have fun, and if Windows 98 SE wont boot after your done, dont worry, theres still hope, read threw anti Onlines search and look for partitioning, Red hat install and Windows 98 SE and MBR and or Master boot record fix and also google it, youll be ok though:)
EDIT: also, if your computer get really messed up for some reason, boot with a windows boot Disk and then after your at the "A:>" prompt, type in "C:" and press enter, then type fdisk/mbr and itll redo that, but only use that as a last option.
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thank u man
I really appreciate it:)
but I am worried about changing my sustem file from fat32 to linux
I dont wanna loose my contents
I got my books and software after hardwork:(
so now u htink partition d is enough
I can format it
then install linux on it
Iam gonna do it but after copying all I want to cds
thanks again buddy
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i think you should format one of your partition.after emptying that from data.then install linux on that partition.you should also install lilo(a boot loader) which will guide you everytime you boot your pc and let you choose the os you want to load.i suggest you should have lilo in a disk and load it from there.just avoid having lilo in your master boot record.it may cause problems in the near future.
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Hi amon. As far as having lilo or grub in the mbr, it's too late for me. What problems could this cause? How would I remove it or restore the Windows loader if I decided to get rid of Linux? I was wondering about this when I setup a dual boot at work before.
t2k2
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in order to fix the problem in your mbr you type the following: fdisk \mbr
i'll tell you what happened to me whwn i did that.i wanted to install mandrake 9.0 but first i had to format the disk and erase the linux version i had before(mandrake 8.2).i booted with windows 98 setup disk in order to have clear dos(i learn it that way).then i tried to format the disk.that was it!i erased primary dos appartment by mistake when i was in fdisk.this is a very common mistake that many people tend to do.it's very easy to happen.so i had to reinstall my basic os which was windows xp.
the correct way to do this is to format the disk you have installed linux and then uninstall lilo from the mbr by using the command i gave you before.
when you are installing linux you do that step by step.so when you come to that,just install lilo on a floppy.since then, you make your machine to boot from fdd drive and that's it!
now if you have already installed linux and you do have lilo in your mbr you can change that from your linux system managment.you just have to make a copy of lilo on a disk and uninstall lilo from your mbr.it's very easy to do that especilly when you use an x windows system.
i hope i made myself clear.
happy new year to every ao's member!
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so how can Iget lilo?
am I gonna get it when Iam installing linux??
or is there other sources?
:confused:
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When you install Linux it usually asks about lilo, specially in red hat and mandrake itll usually ask you about your master boot record, your gunna wanna install lilo so you can boot both unless you already have a boot prog like system commander or boot magic.
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My advice is to make a boot disk for your linux partition when you are playing with mbr and stuff.
if you don't know how to (for example in RedHat):
go to the shell prompt
and type
su -
Password: your rootpassword
now go to the directory with modules
cd /lib/modules
type ls to list the contents of the directory
ls
you need to find the kernel version of your system it will say something like 2.4.x-yy
or 2.2.x-yy that's the kernelnumber
now you can copy a kernel to the floppy, type
mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 kernelnumber
done, this way you have a bootdisk for your redhat partition.
The easiest way to install redhat to your existing system is: move the contents of one partition to another one, making an empty partition. Now use Fdisk to remove that empty partition. Whe you install RedHat Linux it will ask you what kind of install, custom, server or workstation, or desktop. When you choose desktop, only non-dos ( e.g. linux/unix) partitions will be lost, the other ones will remain intact. RedHat installs to the free unpartitioned space on your disk. With recent RedHat, you can choose either LILO or GRUB. It will recognize your windows environment and add it to the lilo menu.
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yes.you are going to have lilo during the installation and you will be asked where to install it.so do that on a floppy disk.i suggest you should try mandrake 9.0 for the beginning.it is very user's friendly.
happy new year
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thank u man
and
HapPy nEw YeAr
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A little but !important! note: you better use an easy password for root when installing (if the box is offline) and then after the first login (when all settings are correct) replace the password with a strong one. I noticed that many Linux distro's (like redhat) use another keyboard layout during the install program. They do not use the one you choose consistently during the install. This makes that you cannot give your password when asked at first login. US users don't have this prob, cause mostly the default keymap is US but international users may come accros this prob. One advice if you don't want to go into single user and reset your own password, use a simple password without freaky symbols first time you install. You can change it afterwards as many as you like.
MAKE SURE you CHANGE it (immediatly) afterwards, otherwise your fresh nix box becomes almost as vulnerable as any m$ win9x ;)
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thank u man
my greetings to u all