Networking DSL, Linux and Windows.

Heya everyone. Here's the deal. I got got my new DSL at my dad's house (YAY!) And I'm hooking up two computers for it, here's the deal though;

One is on Mandrake Linux 8.2 and One is on Windows ME/XP (What a combo eh...? :o :() Anyways, I know that I'll need a Hub and Ethernet wires, but I need to know how to set it out in Linux. And I need to know if I need to have certian packages installed to use DSL, becasue my cd-rom drive dosn't work, and I'm to lazy to go get it fixed...I hope you understand the question, and help woulr be great! Thanks..

-MicroBurn

If you get a DSL router that has a built-in DHCP server, you can simply set up both boxes to accept an IP address from the server, and you're set. Once you have configured the router properly, both computers will be online, no software installation necessary on either box.

AJ

Avdven, how do I set it to Accept IP address from the server?

I believe that this should be of some value to you. I'm not well versed with Mandrake 8.x, but I believe that the principles and commands discussed should still apply.
Regards.

You won't necessarily need a hub if there are only two machines. Unless you get a DSL router (like avdven says), you will only have two boxes and hence can connect them with a crossover cable, saving money and tangle.

Some DSL routers may have a small (4-8 port) hub in them anyway - you might be able to get one of these.

How does the DSL connect? Does it use a custom comms card, USB or ethernet? (I don't know much about DSL as we don't have it in my country, only ADSL)

It uses an Ethernet card to connect to the modem. Now, er0k just informed me on something that I should go about doing, does anyone have more advice, I'd like all I can get. :)

hi

microburn, how do you log in to dsl? is it static routing (e.g. the dsl router / modem has the necessary info for the address) or some sort of authentication (pppoe is probably the usual way for this) with a username and password on the workstations, or some other way?

depending upon the dsl equipment, you may have to add more security to your boxes as dsl connections are highly sought after by crackers for their own malicious use.

if you have a spare box you could probably set it up as a firewall/gateway for the linux and windows boxes.

regards,
mark.

If you get something like a Linksys DSL Router as previously suggested, you would configure it to connect via PPPOE (PPP over Ethernet), and enter your DSL username and password that you have been assigned. The Router would act as a DHCP server and hand out IP addresses to all clients that are connected to it. I have one and it works great. One other thing that's great about it is that you won't really lose your connection and have to sign in manually all the time. The router does this for you. That was a pain before I got the router. Eventually, your connection times out, and you have to manually sign in again. I think this is only with DSL, however. Cable users don't have to do it, I believe. Ok, enough ranting. You may have also been given the suggestion to configure PPPOE on your Linux box or setup Internet Connection Sharing on your Windows box if it's available. I ended up not going with this since the router seemed to be a better solution. Now, my dual-boot RH 8/XP machine connects fine on both OSs. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. I would be happy to help. :D


t2k2

If you have a router/switch with a dhcp server you computer will automaticly get a valid ip when booting. First your linux box was connected to the dsl modem right ? so you already set it up to get an ip from a dhcp server. You just have to put the right cables in the right hole, straight tru cables btw ;), and reboot the machines. That'll work in your case.
It works the same as if you didn't have the router. If your router has a dhcp server it probably also ahs something like a firewall and a NAT server... Well for your server you should only send incomming connections on port 80 to your servers internall ip (something like 192.168.1.10) and maybe set up the firewall (rtfm ;)) and that it...

Why would he need to allow inbound port 80? Are you setting up a Webserver MicorBurn? I must have missed that part. In this case, I believe you would need to setup port forwarding for port 80 if you are going to run a webserver just as neel suggested.

t2k2

I do not know what type of DSL modem/router you have but if you have
the real cheep modem, get a Linksys router, info available at www.linksys.com
That is what I use. Cost starts at less than 80 dollars US and I have seen
some real deals with them even at Radio Shack.
They will handle PPOE and have the neat function of
having a NAT type of firewall anda DHCP server.

I use the same setup here and I have used just about every
OS there is on my system Mac OS9 and 10, Lindows, RedHat,
Windows 95,98,ME,XP, Net Beta, and 2000
and I have 8-10 computers on my DSL all at the same time.

I hope this helps

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Originally posted here by t2k2
Why would he need to allow inbound port 80? Are you setting up a Webserver MicorBurn? I must have missed that part. In this case, I believe you would need to setup port forwarding for port 80 if you are going to run a webserver just as neel suggested.

t2k2

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Hehe yes he's running a webserver. I know he runs www.unerror.com (the one in his sig) at home. But well you couldn't know I knew, so thanks for correcting me ;).

Well, I got it set up, and frankly, it wasn't as hard as I excepted it to be. It turns out I had to install rp-PPPoe, and I had some peoblems with that, but I debuged it, and it turns out my configuration file was messed up. But, once I got it up and running it flet good. Thanks for all your help everyones. :-) It wasn't hard at all!

Cool, I'm glad it worked out for you Micro. Neel, I'm glad you cleared that up for me. I would have thought that it was a site that was somewhere else that he may have administered. One day (soon hopefully), I will get me a site up and running. I just don't know what I will put on it yet. :D Take care gang!

t2k2

hi

good to know its working now! have fun.

regards,
mark.