chemical warheads found in iraq

Now what?

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Inspectors Find 11 Empty Chemical Warheads in Iraq
Warheads Discovered South of Baghdad Said to Be in 'Excellent Condition'


BAGHDAD, Iraq –– U.N. inspectors on Thursday found 11 empty chemical warheads in "excellent" condition at an ammunition storage area where they were inspecting bunkers built in the late 1990s, a U.N. spokesman reported.

A 12th warhead, also of a 122 mm, was found that requires further evaluation, according to the statement by Hiro Ueki, the spokesman for U.N. weapons inspectors in Baghdad.

It was not immediately clear if discovery of the warheads constituted a "material breach" of the U.N. resolution requiring Iraq to itemize all of its weapons of mass destruction.

At the United Nations, the U.S. ambassador said he could not offer an assessment without further information.

"I simply cannot answer into that kind of hypothetical proposition without having more facts at my fingertips," John Negroponte said.

The team used portable X-ray equipment for a preliminary analysis of one of the warheads and collected samples for chemical testing, Ueki's statement said.

"The warheads were in excellent condition and were similar to ones imported by Iraq during the late 1980's," the statement said.

The warheads were found during a visit by inspectors to the Ukhaider Ammunition Storage Area, 75 miles south of Baghdad.

U.N. inspectors are searching for evidence Iraq still has chemical, nuclear or biological weapons programs. They are expected to report preliminary findings to the U.N. Security Council in New York by Jan. 27.

On Dec. 7, a chemical team secured

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This is an interesting find. While they did find 11 chemical warheads in perfect condition, they were empty. However, since they found them in bunkers created in the late 90's we can assume that these warheads have been active at some point within the last 5 years or so, but apparently these were not declared in the Iraqi weapons documentation.

All this after the recent transfer of knowledge from the US and British intelligence agencies to the weapons inspector teams. I guess the UN needs an intelligence branch now, eh?

roswell1329 is right , the warheads may have bene active, but the big question is with what agent? A question, would a chemical warhead be able to deliver a biological payload?

I don't know how much I woudl trust the UN with a intelligence division. It worries me enough that they have the ICC, I dont think I want to see a gobal echelon controled by the UN

Well if U notice the US is the World richest country. I wouldn't trust the UN, case in my opinion they
are influence by the US and it's money. The US is always throwing their money around to gain political
domainance in matters that interest them getting richer. If that oil wasn't over there the US would care
less about what Iraq had or using it for. Anyway they haven't stop bin Laden! US truly have to many irons
in the fire.

hello,
First of all i'm surprised that these informations have only made it to the whashington post and no other paper... how reliable is the info ?
==>After some checking i found that the missiles were imported (i wonder from which country) in 1988 and that they were declared in the report

second, the fact that the warhead were found in bunkers built in the late 90's could just mean that the previous bunker that stored them was damaged and where else would you put that kind of thing ? certainly not in a regular house ...

third, chemicla warhead cannot be used as biological warhead ( for Syini666 )

fourth, what is allowed and what isn't in for the report, it is a bit too confusing (imagine you were ask to list all weapons in your house would you include all your kitchen knives ?) Not to the extent of forgetting missile warheads

I don't know where iraq is trying to go but most know where the us wants it to go.
Also, i'm not too convinced by the ammount of indepandance of the inspectors ?

i notice maskofZorro lists his source of information. wheres yours nabylbt?

chemical weapons do not have to be able to hold a biological payload. they're weapons of mass destruction all by themselves.

if you went into my basement and saw that there were empty unused shotgun shells it would be safe to assume that i load my oun shells. why else would i have them?

as far as being declared already ive been listening to 1010 wins AM NY all afternoon and they say that they have not been declared but the radio is too fast to get the news out before the competition, so i guess that remains to be seen.

its just sad.... i dont know why people feel the need to kill masses of people. I realize that they have those for their own defense theoretically, however in my opinion, sadaam just wants to be malicious. War is just ugh... so stupid.. although, the united states has done a good job dehumanizing the living crap out of people that reside in the middle east, or even decendants of those.. Which is far worse than nuclear war. Its what i like to call "spirit murder"

edit >> check out those threes ;) posts: 333, tutorials submitted: 3 muahhahaha < --- not intended to mask the seriousness of this thread.

iraq it seems did list these devices in the manifest but it listed them mearly as artillery rounds. that like calling an alligator a lizard.

I taking a guess that those "warheads" are going to be the final excuse that Bush uses to start the real war with Iraq.

Side Note:
Is it me or does Bush seem to have a personal agenda rather than a political one? In my opinion, Bush is just finishing daddy's business.

but i have one big Q? for u guys.
i live in the ME - Jordan, so i was so curious about that .... is it worth it for you all to send all you kids and relatives to fight against Iraq ?
we are beside Iraq and will not fight ..!! so how come you do ( americans , British, Frensh ... etc )
i see it really weired .
and i belive that US is making it for 2 reasons:
1- Oil
2- finish Daddy's business.
why u have to pay for this ?

Well bimmer, you have two very good points. But, can you forget what happened in Iraq in the late 80's when saddam gassed thousands of people. Leaving them dead in the streets? This cannot be overlooked. For thisis the truest form of evil. He also, donates money to Hammas and Al Asqua martys brigade...ect... He supports terror againts Israel and America. ANYONE WHO DOES WILL FALL. That is a promise from us, the American People who will pay for it with our blood. We have a spirit than can never be faded. Bomb us, Nuke us, Poison us. But we will NEVER back down. Much like the Palestinian that fights Israeli occupation, we will never give up. IMO, this all boils down to Bush having a spy or two under deep cover in Iraq.
Thats the only reason for his shadyness. And he knows Saddams Intentions. I mean, we are America. The Home and Birthplace of "Big Brother". We are always watching. Its hard to have faith that our Monkey of a president is using this power to its fullest, but we have to. As Americans, as humans...

It has been prophicied that there will be a 7 year peace between Jews and Muslims. Then Armageddon. I belive that whole heartedly. And I see it everyday. I wish I was wrong...

I'm sure I'm gunna get some red'ns for this but I have to put in my two cents. . .if the UN asked us to go through our stockpile of weapons and give a detailed list, not leave anything out, do you think we could do it?? We just found the samples of bubonic plague that we lost recently. The whole Iraq thing makes me mad. . .call me a peace monger if you want, but Saddam hasn't done anything wrong recently. . .looks more like Jr. is going after the money that Daddy couldn't get back during Desert Storm to me. There still mad that the locals that decided to take back the oil fields. Neg away, just my opinion. BTW I'm not anti-USA, just don't see the sense in wasting all this money on a war that could easily be avoided and won't accomplish anymore than what the Afgahnistan actions did. . .one more side point, call it dumb if you like. . .but, you can't fight an abstraction, you can't fight terrorism, it can't be eliminated, it's a notion that will always exist so long as thee are different types of people with different ideologies.

Bludgeon, good points, especially about not being able to eliminate terrorism, and I want to point out that the more that America attacks other countries, the amount of terrorist attacks will just increase. Back to Saddam, what I find funny is that Saddam has allowed UN inspectors in and has pretty much disclosed anything that they asked for, but North Korea on the other hand, has thrown UN inspectors out, has openly announced that a nuclear weapon division is in the works and yet our president claims that they are just political problem while he continues to call for war with Iraq. Why is that? Why is Bush so fixated on Iraq? Saddam has done nothing wrong and yet our "President" continues to push for a war with him. Either Bush is on a power surge or like I said before, he just wants to finish daddy's business.

But then again, who says he isn't being pressured into the war by everyone around him, the people that used to work for daddy's administration? Either our "president" is extremely stupid and is being pressured into war or he just has a gurdge against Saddam because daddy couldn't do what he wanted to.

Warheads or a clean U.N inspection doctrine, war monger bush wants to launch an invasion on iraq. And bimmer, we're not all supporting this war on iraq. Most people in the United States are against military action. The sad part is our president seems to have his own agenda. Its only going to be a blood bath and in the end not make the world a safer place. In my opinion, this ranks up there with handing over a nation of innocent people to the northern alliance(A group who loved to perform genocide).

They ( Iraq) dont and arent building any weapons that could reach the USA nor are they threatening us(im sure they learned thier lesson already) plus the media tends to spectacularize ( Inspector Hans Blix downplayed the importance of the discovery in a latter article) headlines sell, remember that.