A lot of people use the term "Hacker".
It can be seen as some one who knows about computers or a illegal cracker.
What do you think about the term "Hacker".
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A lot of people use the term "Hacker".
It can be seen as some one who knows about computers or a illegal cracker.
What do you think about the term "Hacker".
Ennis quote from his Ethics tutorialQuote:
In a new era of hacking it is vitally important for the older generation to keep a sense of ethics and values alive, or we may simple add to the media's 'negative' view of hackers.
It is therefore the reason I have chosen to add an ethics section here.
Hopefully by introducing the many types of hackers in the world you can choose the right type and understand what a true hacker is.
I wont begin with the obvious dictionary defination of a hacker [seeker of knowledge etc.] but try to introduce the attitude of various stereotyped hackers.
However in my opinion real hackers come under no defination and are just people interested in computers regardless of whether they spend years learning the finer points of programming or years gaining root on a lame admins system.
I believe honestly this is not a Hacking forum.
Thou, it can be use to express positive or negative ideologies. I live by no man-made rules or ideas
but it fits your foot wear it.
NewYork, Post -" Young hacker caught stealing government information."
I would hate to read the headlines stating this:(
&-| *phaza7 wipes his face
Destiny it's your fate U decide
I disagree. This is infact a hacking/hacker website. There are even "hacking tools" on this website for download. there are "hacking" related forums, and "hackers" are everywhere in this board...Quote:
I believe honestly this is not a Hacking forum.
...how is this not a hacker website?
[P.S. - Having a hacker website, isn't neccessarily a wrong thing, which most people dont' seem to understand]
Well put, [WebCarnage]
Personally, I don't think that there's anything wrong with a hacking website, and at AO it's taken one step further - although we DO teach people how to hack*, we also try to teach them to do so ethically, and encourage them not to be stupid about it. I can only hope that our influence has kept at least a few people out of jail. The only problem people actually have is that the term "hacker" has been turned into something evil, which we know is not true.
*crack, phreak, whatever term thou fancieth
SSJVegeta-Sei
I tend to look beyond the ethics...
Personally I beleave hacking is nothing more than a bunch of guys and gals turning on their PC and programing and whatever happens with these programs are the responsability of the user.
we agreed before about the term " hacker ", u shouldn't be a bad person for being a hacker.
if u know how to hack is something good.
but if u use these skills for illigal stuff, then u are a bad person.
and the header of each page on this site says it all ( hackers know the weaknesses in your system. shouldn't you ?
i totally agreee with WebCarnage. here you might have the chance to learn all hacking stuff, but on the otherhand we don't accepet any illigal activities as well.
I have posted a thread before quoting the term "hacker" as i believe it is.
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There is a community, a shared culture, of expert programmers and networking wizards that traces its history back through decades to the first time-sharing minicomputers and the earliest ARPAnet experiments. The members of this culture originated the term `hacker'. Hackers built the Internet. Hackers made the Unix operating system what it is today. Hackers run Usenet. Hackers make the World Wide Web work. If you are part of this culture, if you have contributed to it and other people in it know who you are and call you a hacker, you're a hacker.
The hacker mind-set is not confined to this software-hacker culture. There are people who apply the hacker attitude to other things, like electronics or music -- actually, you can find it at the highest levels of any science or art. Software hackers recognize these kindred spirits elsewhere and may call them "hackers" too -- and some claim that the hacker nature is really independent of the particular medium the hacker works in.
There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but aren't. These are people (mainly adolescent males) who get a kick out of breaking into computers and phreaking the phone system. Real hackers call these people `crackers' and want nothing to do with them. Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word `hacker' to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end.
The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them.
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i quote these words since they fit exactly the description of what a hacker really is. The credit of this text should go to its author Eric S. Raymond.
Now to the subject of AO being a hackers site. In my opinion its yes. AO is a very advanced hackers site since we solve OS, Security, network and ethical problems. Do not compare this site to other so called "hacker's" sites, wh3r3 th3y typ3 l33t and **** like that. Most of the people here are admins, techs, programmers, security advisors, and computer lovers which fit the description hackers.
Cheers :cool:
i completely agree with instronics...what is most important is that we must learn to distinguish between a HACKER and a CRACKER(those with malicious interest)......i mean its almost similar to a connoisuer of good food and a someones who pigs into food...
I have been using computers since the late 70's. I have used all kinds of computers, programming languages, databases, architecture you name it. While working for customers or companies many times i have been label "you are a hacker". You want to know my answer is a big :-).... I love to explore how computers works, what type of data is on the databases and so on.
I do not see anything wrong on being a hacker, in fact i see a hacker as a person with a lot of computer knowledge and a desired to learn and learn more and more about other people's computer. A hacker does not damage computers, databases. Does are crackers.
AO is in fact a hacking site, there are a lot of tutorial that talks about hacking. A lot of hackers look at this site for information and information sharing.
My 2 cents. :frosty:
Unless being a newbie here i think AO is or has become throughout time a hacker´s site.
I also think there absolutely nothing wrong with this.
For me personally, i´d like to see this site as a great opportunity to learn a lot.
The ethics of hacking is , i believe, also the responsability of every single person.
Unfortunately there persons who mean it positive and also those who have malicious
interests.
Greetz
can i just put in some of my personal feelings. for those of you who voted i have no opinion in this, what are you doing in this site?
i am a person who believes that in some point, AO has become a hacking site, but it seems to change daily. for instace. i can ask or tell peope how to change an xp cd key and i will get negged for it because people classify this as hacking. then the next day possitives come in saying this is a useful post ect.
it all comes down to people, the only thing predictable about a human being, is their unpredictablilty.
TN123
Hackers are on a quest, they belive that information should be free. CRACKERS commit acts of violence toward other companys for fun. hackers were the real ones the internet. he have a lot to thank for because of hackers. but crackers ruined that image.
I've been called a hacker on several occasions by friends, family, teachers, collegues, and even complete strangers. I am filled with an immense amount of pride when I hear this. While I do not feel that I am a hacker, I do strive to become one. Being referred to as a hacker in the computer community, in my opinion, is the greatest amount of respect you can give a person, however coming from those outside the computer community, it usually means they suspect you of something, or figure you're breaking the law. It's nothing more than misconception, and a misunderstanding, and I don't think that society will ever get the term right, and it's just something we'll have to live with.
just another stereotype that leads to more stereotypes.. terms like hacker, cracker, sript kiddie, and so on are just giving smart intelligent people who know how to use computers a bad name... terms like that give people the wrong impression of a person who knows to use a computer well... rather than: "that person is really smart, i never knew a computer could do that" it turns out something like this: "oh, that person's a hacker, he/she's going to hack the fbi."
Well i think the term hacker should only be used to those who are ''Hackers'' i think it is offensive if people say they are and there just lying silly little kids lol
~ Neo-Helius
For me, it depends. Are you a hacker for me is such a vague question. It depends on what the person asking its opinion on what a hacker is. If you're saying someone who wants to explore the deepest depths of a computer system, sure, you can call me a hacker. But if you're saying a hacker is a renegade that uses rebellious computer techniques to steal valuable information and exploit his way to a server of a network just to destroy the whole thing, then no.
Regards,
Silentstalker
Yo bet your sweet Bibby I am.....
But I am no "Cracker"
:p
Hacker, cracker, white hat, black hat whatever. I would not call my self any of them, I like the term "Computer security tester" sounds much better.
SittingDuck
I am a Hacker. I am Curious. I am an Explorer. We all are. There is nothing bad about this, it is one of the few goods in the growing internet.
A Hacker is merely someone who wishes to know all that can be known, and share what he knows.
Hacker is an old term, it has been used for programmers on the periphery for the last 40+ years that I know of. The redefiniton of hacker is somewhat bothersom. Like the cheshire cat " a word means what I want it to mean." Hackers are still just programmers. Programmers are, were and will be the true computer literates.
The only question is whether or not Programmers will use their talents usefully or as silly ass shouts for attention.
:::yawns::: Heh. . . the BIG question. This has been discussed sooooooooo many times in the past. Actually spawned some really good threads. Do a search sometime.
hey i didnt say i was a hacker, or a cracker. i am a 14 year old programmer.the term hacker doesnt offend me. i use my abilitys to program and boost security. if someone calls me a hacker i tell them the truth. im not. i hav many friends that are (or so they say) but being called a hacker doesnt offend me. but being called one then being prosecuted is total bull ****.
Wow thanks for the input. This has been very useful for me to get other peoples views.