gettin' on my nerves

lately, one out of 5 questions on AO is 'bout somthin' bein' better or best. (which distro is the best? which prog. lang. is the best? which war-dialer is the best? etc.)

well...

you will NEVER know until you try it!!!

it reminds me of 6 year old arguing who would win; batman or spiderman???

do you wanna know what linux is like.... INSTALL IT!!!
do you wanna know what python is like.... GO TO THE ZOO AND PLAY W/ IT

there's so much doc's on the net comparing everything and anything and you still ask a quesion WHAT'S BEST??

so here're the answers:

1. best OS - MS DOS 3.6
2. best prog lang - QBASIC (you can write some neat xploits w/dat)
3. best wardialer - your left hand
4. best port scanner - finger & ping
5. best hacking site - H4x0r

I am new here and I think you are out of line for what you are saying. We do have freedom of speech and I do believe you can post whatever you want. People ask which is better so they don't have such a hard time or can get a real world example of what people like or are using. Would you want a distro of Linux that takes a long time to install if you are say a sys admin and have hundreds of pc's to configure? I'll stop with my rant sorry.

Exitrial

Definately Spiderman would win.

freedom of speech ... what a drama queen!!!

yeah you do have it even if you are just taking up space

but if you must be more specific... (ei. what OS is most security oriented, what linux is newbie friendly, what prog.lang is fastest, what portscanner runs on linux)

OK expert, BEST is a relative term. Best in what circumstance, adequate may be best you have. Have some patience. You are an expert you must learn patience for those who are trying to improve their expertise.

Sorry folks, but i disagree with this entire thread. If you dont like what others are posting, then dont read it. There are many different subjects everyday. Some are interesting, some not. Just dont whine about other peoples thread. (i know, i know, im whining about this one)

Cheers everyone :)

The premise of this topic is valid, but the speaker is not...

"'bout somthin' bein' better or best."...no need to sound 'relaxed' or 'cool' here, so don't replace letters with '.

"(you can write some neat xploits w/dat)"...that's the first time that I've seen the expression 'w/dat'...good job, you've just corrupted the English language further. ('xploits' I can understand, if not condone to usage).

"1. best OS - MS DOS 3.6
2. best prog lang - QBASIC (you can write some neat xploits w/dat)
3. best wardialer - your left hand
4. best port scanner - finger & ping
5. best hacking site - H4x0r"

The idea that you complain about the lists and such and then give one of your own grants a great deal of irrelevance to whatever you say and also puts you into the group of people that you are trying to deride.

"so here're the answers:"...typos are no big deal

As I said, the premise of it is valid, but a better spokesperson could be found.
Personally, I enjoy individual opinions, and never flame anyone for theirs. I'll more often try things based on a good popular opinon, even if I'm unsure of the success.

THINK..."you will NEVER know until you try it"

Ouroboros

P.S. DOS 6.0 is much more efficient

unhappyStar -
"gettin' on my nerves"
To whom does the title apply? - you, or the people that have to put up with reading this kind of thread?
Any help would clearly be appreciated.

i put an apostrophe 'steas of g 'cause it makes me type faster (purely practical reason) if you think it makes me sound cool you gotta stop listening to guns 'n roses.

every senior in here is soo anal about everything, every single little thing. and yes there's so much newbie bullshit all over the place...

yes it's gettin on MY nerves...

"what's better slack or RH, Debian or slack?" same thing over and over

i've been lurking here for years and it became 10% anal seniors and 50% kids in need of simplest questions (buy a f...in' book already) and the rest well ... that's what AO was intended to be originally ....

i don't hate seniors but some of them should ease up on their banal/anal rules

i thought it was 'bout content ... but now it's bout the the style and who is moral and good and who is a hacker and bad ... bla bla

and the newbies please go somwhere else untill you learn somthing you are all over the place ... go to alt.2600 you are asking the same idiotic questions for years on every security site and every theread ...

yes it's getting on my nervers

and grammar ... if you want grammar go webster site

Hey Hey...

I haven't been around long, but I've never seen a problem with any of the posts, well for the most part.. If someone wants to ask for others opinions. Let them.
Look at the top of AO "Hackers know the weaknesses in your system. Shouldn't you?" Right there.. that tells you that a "What's the best/In your opinion" question is completely valid. Especially for the newbies. Everyone has a reason for their opinions, or for thinking something is the best, and usually they're valid reasons. So if I ask what your favourite OS is, sure everyone will answer with their opinion of the best OS, but they will also for the most part justify their reasoning, and that's the important part... their justifications, because you are learning something you might not have previously known. Share your knowledge, and sometimes the easiest way to get others to share is to poll them on something.

Anyways that's my two cents.

I agree that questions like "duh which search engine is best for finding illegal stuff?" and post like "how do I find IP then telnet to it cause I wanna be !L33T!" are lame.

Sure the example questions shown above are annoying but this is why we have negative points to give in the AP system.

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"i put an apostrophe 'steas of g 'cause it makes me type faster (purely practical reason) if you think it makes me sound cool you gotta stop listening to guns 'n roses."

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So you are telling us that hitting a ' is faster than hitting a g? hmm, to me since ' is not as often used as g, seems to me this wouldn't apply. And besides a keystroke is a keystroke. Its not helping you typing speed at all.

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"i've been lurking here for years and it became 10% anal seniors and 50% kids in need of simplest questions (buy a f...in' book already) and the rest well ... that's what AO was intended to be originally ...."

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User Info
Registered: 11-06-2002
Member Status: AntiOnline Newbie
Online Status: User Is Offline.

Must be under a different nick then, and if so why? According to this you are still a newb.

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"and the newbies please go somwhere else untill you learn somthing you are all over the place ... go to alt.2600"

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A) You still bear this status. Contribute and get rid of it before slamming newbies. B) Everyone starts somewhere. not everyone to the site reads everything they should, some people would rather just ask. Yes, they should read ahead first. But whats the harm in directing those who ask to the information that they seek? Does it kill you to be helpful? and again, if your post count is anything to go by... You have yet to do exactly that. And why promote another website? They can learn a lot here too.

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"you are asking the same idiotic questions for years on every security site and every theread ..."

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Wow guess youve been around a long time then? hmmm if the problem seems to exist on "every security site" then flaming the newbies here isnt going to do it. Maybe you should take all your expertise and knowledge that you are so tired of helping with and open your own security site rather than flame others. But if you cant be bothered to type a g rahter thana ' then I dont think youll find the time and energy to build something productive. its much easier to sit here and flame others work.

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"and grammar ... if you want grammar go webster site"

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Oh you are SO right. Dont dare improve yourself for anyone.

Now I dont usually take someones post apart like this, but come on, grow up and stop your bitching. You asked for it. You dont like the newbies posts? Theres the door. Dont read em.
Id rather stick around and help the newbie who dont know about linux, because maybe he knows something about windows that I dont. Just becuase ones field of expertise lacks another subject doesnt make them worthless. more than once have I asked a windows based question and some newbie from left field pops up and says "oh thats easy. its..."

Sounds like your thread is a whole lot of "somethin' about a whole lot of nothin'"
Oh and I LIKE Guns N' Roses, thank you.

*yawns*...people need to learn how to use the "Search Thread" feature for this website...

well avenger i guess you showed me...

you picked apart my post in an anal fashion... got nothing better to do... hehe.... you probably come here and update your mood 3 times a day....

if you like gnr than you must know what song this is from


"i said what i said and i never pretended"

ok...you don't like N00b rants....WOT'S THIS THEN?
* Looks around *
All I see is rant...ugh..I'm tired and in need of food....stop the moaning...

- Noia

Asking other's opinions on something is not just something "newbies" do. Are you so self sufficient and perfect that you don't ever inquire about other's opinions? I for one will try something but have nothing against asking others what they think about it or asking for direction in a particular matter. How wonderful it must be to have all the answers and to be so much better than all the rest.

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Sorry folks, but i disagree with this entire thread. If you dont like what others are posting, then dont read it. There are many different subjects everyday. Some are interesting, some not. Just dont whine about other peoples thread. (i know, i know, im whining about this one)

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I'd have to agre with this, no one is forcing you to read or post to any thread. Live and let live.

:cool:

Threads like these do serve some purpose.

I get to even out my positive and negative antipoints... :)

To me it looks like the name"unhappystar"should be more something like "winingstar"

unhappy star ,u never know the value of what u have till u lose it .y to fukk ur own pc by trial and error method .if i am not wrong , no 1 will like to waste their valuable time using trial and error method.if its like that ,then there is no need of antionline.antionline means for all ,by the best and for the best .....and i guess for newbies like me its a biiiiiiiiiiig help .knowledge is never complete buddy.its a long process .but if we learn like the way u r refferring to ,then it will take me whole life to learn what i have learned from antionline from past 1 month.and all this was possible from antionline bcoz of various threads by everyone .let it b a newbie or a junior or senior member or an addict.and if u r so pissed of by antionline ,then quit surfing it ........lol
hey i guezz u r not mad at me.....i just told my opinion.......
gl dude with ur movez

try it dude for 1 month ..then u will know the meaning of what i told ya n the beginning .

Maybe unhappyStar is right, maybe we don't show the compassion and caring we should. So as a step towards our understanding and wholehearted devotion towards this thread, I wanted to share my attachment with you. Enjoy. :)

LOL thats a good one tin-tin..
I think i have a better reply...

maybe this is the "been there done that fatigue syndrome" setting in on some (i'll leave them out of it) . Some of us don't have all the answers...really